# Manti Te'o's Fake, Dead Girlfriend **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [January 16, 2013, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manti-teos-fake-dead-girlfriend/647424 "2013-01-16T22:06:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 16
**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2013, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manti-teos-fake-dead-girlfriend/647424/301 "2013-01-26T05:29:04Z")
> [@CoolHandCox](#): > > At least we know where rock bottom is in this saga. And me watching will be my own personal rock bottom. Ugh. So disappointed in my future self. I don’t even know how to watch Dr. Phil “live;” I’ll have to rely on this thread, or maybe the NFL subreddit. ---
**Author:** ![CoolHandCox](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coolhandcox/32/16233_2.png) [@CoolHandCox](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CoolHandCox)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2013, 5:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manti-teos-fake-dead-girlfriend/647424/302 "2013-01-26T05:57:57Z")
> [@garygnu](#): > > I don’t even know how to watch Dr. Phil “live;” I’ll have to rely on this thread, or maybe the NFL subreddit. It’ll be pre-meditated rock bottom if I record it and watch it later. ---
**Author:** ![Accidental\_Martyr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ce7236/32.png) [@Accidental\_Martyr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Accidental_Martyr)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2013, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manti-teos-fake-dead-girlfriend/647424/303 "2013-01-26T18:03:19Z")
> [@garygnu](#): > > I saw a report that said Tuiasasopo is going on Dr. Phil. > > Perfect! Dr. Phil will probably determine that Te’o was a victim of Ritual Satanic Abuse as a child. ---
**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2013, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manti-teos-fake-dead-girlfriend/647424/304 "2013-01-30T19:52:03Z")
[http://todaynews.today.com/\_news/2013/01/30/16771121-dr-phil-hoax-mastermind-fell-deeply-romantically-in-love-with-teo?lite](http://todaynews.today.com/_news/2013/01/30/16771121-dr-phil-hoax-mastermind-fell-deeply-romantically-in-love-with-teo?lite) > [@](#): > > After his lengthy interview with the mastermind of the fake girlfriend hoax against Manti Te’o, Dr. Phil McGraw believes Ronaiah Tuiasosopo genuinely fell in love with the Notre Dame star linebacker during the course of the two-year deception. > “Here we have a young man that fell deeply, romantically in love,’’ McGraw told NBC’s Mike Taibbi in a segment that aired on TODAY Wednesday. “I asked him straight up, ‘Was this a romantic relationship with you?’ And he says yes. I said, ‘Are you then therefore gay?’ And he said, ‘When you put it that way, yes.’ And then he caught himself and said, ‘I am confused.’’’ Sigh. It has become [M Butterfly](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M._Butterfly). (Wiki link) ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2013, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manti-teos-fake-dead-girlfriend/647424/305 "2013-01-30T20:32:23Z")
Seems like only yesterday that Teo was a possible Heisman Trophy winner and a likely #1 overall draft pick. Between the shellacking Notre Dame took from Alabama and the current mini-scandal, Teo is both a national joke AND has plummeted on every draft board. He may no longer be a first rounder, let alone #1 overall. Could he possibly have fallen any farther any faster? ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2013, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manti-teos-fake-dead-girlfriend/647424/306 "2013-01-30T23:25:41Z")
> [@astorian](#): > > Seems like only yesterday that Teo was a possible Heisman Trophy winner and a likely #1 overall draft pick. I don’t really follow the pre-draft news, but #1 really? I thought I heard his rep was falling before that. The word was the NFL does not think he is fast enough to drop back into coverage on obvious passing downs therefore he wasn’t going that high. The NFL doesn’t can about bowl games or trophies. They care about numbers. . Set me straight if I heard wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2013, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manti-teos-fake-dead-girlfriend/647424/307 "2013-01-30T23:46:50Z")
I thin he was considered a first rounder, but not a #1 overall guy. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2013, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manti-teos-fake-dead-girlfriend/647424/308 "2013-01-30T23:51:10Z")
> [@astorian](#): > > Seems like only yesterday that Teo was a possible Heisman Trophy winner and a likely #1 overall draft pick. He was never a likely #1 overall pick. There was speculation he could go high in the first round, but Alabama destroyed that. ---
**Author:** ![Labrador\_Deceiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7c8e57/32.png) [@Labrador\_Deceiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labrador_Deceiver)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2013, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manti-teos-fake-dead-girlfriend/647424/309 "2013-01-31T01:46:23Z")
Yeah, I’m pretty sure UGA’s Jarvis Jones was projected ahead of him all year. Funny how he didn’t win any awards, though. ---
**Author:** ![standingwave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9de0a6/32.png) [@standingwave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/standingwave)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2013, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manti-teos-fake-dead-girlfriend/647424/310 "2013-01-31T03:36:07Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > He was never a likely #1 overall pick. There was speculation he could go high in the first round, but Alabama destroyed that. CBS Mock Draft: Pros: intelligent player, excellent tackling; cons: makes up fake dead girlfriends, possibly undersized for the position. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2013, 5:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manti-teos-fake-dead-girlfriend/647424/311 "2013-01-31T05:13:02Z")
Mel Kiper had Teo pegged as #1 overall. You wanna argue that Mel is an ignoramus and that pro scouts never rated him so high, have at it. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2013, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manti-teos-fake-dead-girlfriend/647424/312 "2013-01-31T14:07:36Z")
> [@astorian](#): > > Mel Kiper had Teo pegged as #1 overall. You wanna argue that Mel is an ignoramus and that pro scouts never rated him so high, have at it. I thought that was a given. ---
**Author:** ![Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a183cd/32.png) [@Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barkis_is_Willin)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2013, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manti-teos-fake-dead-girlfriend/647424/313 "2013-01-31T20:08:55Z")
Mel had Teo at 8 overall to the Bills before and after the fake dead girlfriend stuff came out. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2013, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manti-teos-fake-dead-girlfriend/647424/314 "2013-01-31T20:43:55Z")
From looking briefly at a few sites the picture I get is that he is thought of as a safe bet in that he can probably start as a rookie but he probably won’t get much better or become a superstar. ---
**Author:** ![Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de053/32.png) [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackknifed_Juggernaut)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2013, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manti-teos-fake-dead-girlfriend/647424/315 "2013-02-07T16:30:50Z")
Te’o is now Number 2 in the Forbes Most Disliked athletes list. A bit harsh, no? He basically got swindled for his heart. Why the hate? > **[Introduction - 2013-02-05 - The 10 Most Disliked Athletes In America](https://www.forbes.com/pictures/eddf45jmfd/the-most-disliked-athletes/)** > > Feel-good stories can go sour pretty quickly, as Manti Te'o and Lance Armstrong can attest to. Theylead the 2013 list of America's Most Disliked Athletes, based onthe latest public surveys from NielsenSports andmarket research firm E-Poll.... ---
**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2013, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manti-teos-fake-dead-girlfriend/647424/316 "2013-02-07T16:45:22Z")
1. Liar 2. Liar 3. Liar 4. Whiner 5. Asshole 6. Liar 7. Abuser 8. Asshole 9. Liar, Abuser? 10. Loser in clutch It would appear we don’t suffer liars gladly. ---
**Author:** ![Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a183cd/32.png) [@Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barkis_is_Willin)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2013, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manti-teos-fake-dead-girlfriend/647424/317 "2013-02-08T15:51:58Z")
It’s incredible that ARod is not #2. But it looks like this data was compiled before the latest PED news. ---
**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2013, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manti-teos-fake-dead-girlfriend/647424/318 "2013-02-08T20:19:55Z")
I was shocked not to see Ray Lewis on the list. Roger Clemens couldn’t be too far into the teens. ---
**Author:** ![Asympotically\_fat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e47c2d/32.png) [@Asympotically\_fat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asympotically_fat)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2013, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manti-teos-fake-dead-girlfriend/647424/319 "2013-02-08T20:27:48Z")
I think that it’s cool that he has a fake, dead girlfriend. Fake-dead (FD) people, even in this day and age, are the subject of lot of prejudice and it’s wrong to judge someone just because they choose to go out with a FD person. ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2013, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manti-teos-fake-dead-girlfriend/647424/320 "2013-02-26T23:05:33Z")
Just when it seemed as if things couldn’t get any worse for Manti… > **[Manti Te'o slow 4.82 seconds in 40-yard dash - National Football Post](https://www.nationalfootballpost.com/2008-2018-nfp-archive/latest-nfl-news/manti-teo-slow-482-seconds-in-40yard-dash/)** > > Notre Dame linebacker does not impress [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manti-teos-fake-dead-girlfriend/647424.md?page=15) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/manti-teos-fake-dead-girlfriend/647424.md?page=17)