# Many Americans in Israel Back Romney, Informal Servey Shows **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [October 24, 2012, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/many-americans-in-israel-back-romney-informal-servey-shows/638734 "2012-10-24T16:00:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Kozmik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8dc957/32.png) [@Kozmik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kozmik)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2012, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/many-americans-in-israel-back-romney-informal-servey-shows/638734/1 "2012-10-24T16:00:05Z")
_The New York Times_ [reports](http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/24/world/middleeast/americans-in-israel-seem-to-back-romney.html?ref=todayspaper&_r=0): > [@](#): > > While surveys have indicated that at least two-thirds of Jewish voters in America are likely to support President Obama, the Democratic candidate, limited polling in Israel suggests a reversal of that trend, with two-thirds of American-Israelis saying they intend to vote for the Republican nominee, Mitt Romney. ---
**Author:** ![babygoat666](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/2acd7d/32.png) [@babygoat666](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/babygoat666)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2012, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/many-americans-in-israel-back-romney-informal-servey-shows/638734/2 "2012-10-24T16:02:56Z")
A whole thread, huh? ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2012, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/many-americans-in-israel-back-romney-informal-servey-shows/638734/3 "2012-10-24T16:37:27Z")
So this proves that Obama should do… what? ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2012, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/many-americans-in-israel-back-romney-informal-servey-shows/638734/4 "2012-10-24T16:53:41Z")
> [@Leaper](#): > > So this proves that Obama should do… what? He should do whatever the Anarch tells him to do. 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![Kozmik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8dc957/32.png) [@Kozmik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kozmik)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2012, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/many-americans-in-israel-back-romney-informal-servey-shows/638734/5 "2012-10-24T16:56:58Z")
> [@Leaper](#): > > So this proves that Obama should do… what? Find out the reason for the reversal before Romney does. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2012, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/many-americans-in-israel-back-romney-informal-servey-shows/638734/6 "2012-10-24T17:01:38Z")
> [@Kozmik](#): > > Find out the reason for the reversal before Romney does. What reversal? More people have registered, which doesn’t mean they’ll vote. There’s no data on how they will vote. There is a report that a right-leaning group has been encouraging people to register, so it is possible that the vote will tilt more toward Romney this year than it has toward past Republicans. But there’s no data at all. Not a poll, not a survey, nothing. Even the headline says "Americans in Israel _seem to_ back Romney. The claim is based on the voter registration group and quotes from four people. ---
**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2012, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/many-americans-in-israel-back-romney-informal-servey-shows/638734/7 "2012-10-24T17:08:39Z")
The quote in your OP doesn’t occur in the article. There isn’t any reference in the article to a poll, they just asked a few people at a party sponsored by a (probably) GOP sponsored group and those people said they were voting for Romney. And from this we get that Israeli-American Jews are supporting Romney? I asked a couple people in my office here in S. Carolina who they’re voting for, and they all said Obama. Obama is going to sweep the South!! ---
**Author:** ![Kozmik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8dc957/32.png) [@Kozmik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kozmik)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2012, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/many-americans-in-israel-back-romney-informal-servey-shows/638734/8 "2012-10-24T17:09:29Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > Not a poll, not a survey, nothing. The article mentioned an unscientific sample of voters casting their ballots. You are correct, though, that a right-leaning group may have skewed the result. ---
**Author:** ![Kozmik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8dc957/32.png) [@Kozmik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kozmik)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2012, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/many-americans-in-israel-back-romney-informal-servey-shows/638734/9 "2012-10-24T17:11:18Z")
> [@Simplicio](#): > > The quote in your OP doesn’t occur in the article. Yes it does. I typed it out from the article in print on A8. ---
**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2012, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/many-americans-in-israel-back-romney-informal-servey-shows/638734/10 "2012-10-24T17:14:49Z")
> [@Kozmik](#): > > Yes it does. I typed it out from the article in print on A8. “The article” in my post obviously refers to the article you linked to in the OP. Not some other article you saw in the paper and didn’t mention in your OP. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2012, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/many-americans-in-israel-back-romney-informal-servey-shows/638734/11 "2012-10-24T17:16:31Z")
> [@Kozmik](#): > > The article mentioned an unscientific sample of voters casting their ballots. You are correct, though, that a right-leaning group may have skewed the result. You mean this? > [@](#): > > a number of people casting their ballots at an event sponsored by [iVote Israel, which the story suggests is Republican-affiliated] said they supported Mitt Romney, the Republican challenger. “Unscientific sample” is not the best term for this. It’s a couple of quotes taken from people voting for Romney at an event put on by a pro-Republican group. That can’t be used to demonstrate a trend among American voters in Israel. > [@Simplicio](#): > > The quote in your OP doesn’t occur in the article. He’s right, **Kozmik**. The article may have been updated for the online edition. I’m wondering if the Times decided the polling was not scientific enough to be included. As posted, the article is really weak. ---
**Author:** ![Kozmik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8dc957/32.png) [@Kozmik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kozmik)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2012, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/many-americans-in-israel-back-romney-informal-servey-shows/638734/12 "2012-10-24T17:19:48Z")
> [@Simplicio](#): > > “The article” in my post obviously refers to the article you linked to in the OP. Not some other article you saw in the paper and didn’t mention in your OP. I assumed that the article had the quote. At the bottom you will notice that is states: A version of this article appeared in print on October 24, 2012, on page A10 of the New York edition with the headline: Among Americans in Israel, More Forceful Backing for Romney.It was on page A8 of the National Edition. It’s the same article, it’s just a different “version”. Obviously, they will have to print a correction or something. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2012, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/many-americans-in-israel-back-romney-informal-servey-shows/638734/13 "2012-10-24T17:34:04Z")
> [@Kozmik](#): > > Obviously, they will have to print a correction or something. No, they won’t. They either got the survey data after the online version was posted, or they decided not to include it in the online version. ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2012, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/many-americans-in-israel-back-romney-informal-servey-shows/638734/14 "2012-10-24T17:40:32Z")
Servey sez? Lame 100 ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2012, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/many-americans-in-israel-back-romney-informal-servey-shows/638734/15 "2012-10-24T18:05:51Z")
Even if the poll is correct, I wouldn’t be that surprised. The American-Israeli community here in Israel is very right wing - that is, far to the right of the general Israeli public. In fact, of all the Jewish ethnic communities in Israel, I’d say that the Americans are the most conservative by a comfortable margin. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2012, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/many-americans-in-israel-back-romney-informal-servey-shows/638734/16 "2012-10-24T18:08:15Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > Even if the poll is correct, I wouldn’t be that surprised. The American-Israeli community here in Israel is very right wing - that is, far to the right of the general Israeli public. I wouldn’t be shocked either. To name two obvious factors I’d expect them to be older and more religious than the average American Jew. There’s also no data on how this election compares to others. If Romney is doing much better, maybe there’s a “reversal.” If not, there isn’t. ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2012, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/many-americans-in-israel-back-romney-informal-servey-shows/638734/17 "2012-10-24T18:11:30Z")
Romney is very popular among little people. I know because my friend Serve Villechaize said so. ---
**Author:** ![Fotheringay-Phipps](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/d9b06d/32.png) [@Fotheringay-Phipps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fotheringay-Phipps)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2012, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/many-americans-in-israel-back-romney-informal-servey-shows/638734/18 "2012-10-24T20:37:25Z")
“American Jews in Israel” seems like a very tiny subgroup. I don’t know why anyone would care who they back, even if this survey is accurate. ---
**Author:** ![Dob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b2d939/32.png) [@Dob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dob)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2012, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/many-americans-in-israel-back-romney-informal-servey-shows/638734/19 "2012-10-24T20:39:19Z")
was the sample pool of those surveyed attending the late night lake dip with the repubs?? ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2012, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/many-americans-in-israel-back-romney-informal-servey-shows/638734/20 "2012-10-24T20:40:56Z")
> [@Fotheringay-Phipps](#): > > “American Jews in Israel” seems like a very tiny subgroup. I don’t know why anyone would care who they back, even if this survey is accurate. I think this is supposed to “prove” who the “real friend of Israel” is, and thus whom American Jews in America are “supposed to” support. Gee, is that enough quotation marks?