# March 15th Primaries (Not-as-Super Tuesday)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/march-15th-primaries-not-as-super-tuesday/749055>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [March 15, 2016, 12:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/march-15th-primaries-not-as-super-tuesday/749055 "2016-03-15T12:08:35Z")\
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**Author:** ![Onomatopoeia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onomatopoeia/32/4145_2.png) [@Onomatopoeia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Onomatopoeia)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2016, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/march-15th-primaries-not-as-super-tuesday/749055/41 "2016-03-15T23:20:39Z")

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I am surprised they haven’t called Florida for Trump yet. He is way ahead.

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**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2016, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/march-15th-primaries-not-as-super-tuesday/749055/42 "2016-03-15T23:20:52Z")

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Can anyone explain how Florida has only 11 times as many GOP delegates as the Northern Mariana Islands, while it has around 4000 times the population?

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**Author:** ![Ambrosio\_Spinola](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9de0a6/32.png) [@Ambrosio\_Spinola](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambrosio_Spinola)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2016, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/march-15th-primaries-not-as-super-tuesday/749055/43 "2016-03-15T23:26:03Z")

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> [@Onomatopoeia](#):
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> I am surprised they haven’t called Florida for Trump yet. He is way ahead.

They won’t make any calls until 8 pm Eastern time - some of the areas in the Panhandle have their polls close an hour later than the rest of the state.

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2016, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/march-15th-primaries-not-as-super-tuesday/749055/44 "2016-03-15T23:32:05Z")

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Thanks to The Green Papers, here’s how Republican state delegate counts are determined:

TLDR version, every state gets a certain number of delegates based on the size of their congressional delegation, and extra delegates based on whether the state voted Republican in the last Presidential election, if it has a Republican governor, a Republican state legislature and the number of Republicans it sends to congress.

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> For jurisdictions with Constitutionally Elected Members of Congress:  
> 10 At-Large delegates from each state (effectively, 5 at-large delegates for each U.S. Senator) [Rule 14(a)(1)].  
> 3 District delegates for each U.S. Representative as established by the 2010 census [Rule 14(a)(3)].  
> For jurisdictions without Constitutionally Elected Members of Congress [Rule 14(a)(4)]:  
> 6 at-large delegates from American Samoa.  
> 16 at-large delegates from the District of Columbia.  
> 6 at-large delegates from Guam.  
> 6 at-large delegates from the Northern Mariana Islands.  
> 20 at-large delegates from Puerto Rico.  
> 6 at-large delegates from Virgin Islands.  
> For all jurisdictions (the 50 states plus American Samoa, District of Columbia, Guam, Northern Mariana Islands, Puerto Rico, Virgin Islands) - 3 party leaders: the national committeeman, the national committee woman, and the chairman of the jurisdiction’s Republican Party. [Rule 14(a)(2)]  
> Bonus Delegates  
> President: States casting a majority of their 2012 Electoral Votes for the Republican Candidate receive 4.5 + 0.60 × the jurisdiction’s total 2012 Electoral Vote in bonus delegates. Should the District of Columbia cast the majority of their electoral votes for the Republican Candidate, the District will receive 4.5 + (0.30 × 16) in bonus delegates. Round any fractional remainder UP to the next whole number. [Rules 14(a)(5) and 14(a)(8)]  
> U.S. Senate: Award 1 bonus delegate for each Republican Senator elected in the 6 year period between January 1, 2010 and December 31, 2015. Limit 2. [Rule 14(a)(7)]  
> Governor: States electing a Republican Governor between January 1, 2012 and December 31, 2015 receive 1 bonus delegate. Limit: 1. [Rule 14(a)(6)(i)]  
> U.S. House: States electing Republicans to 50% or more of their U.S. House delegation between January 1, 2012 and December 31, 2015 receive 1 bonus delegate. Limit 1. [Rule 14(a)(6)(ii)]  
> One Chamber: States electing a Republican majority to one chamber of the state legislature (and the chamber is presided over by a Republican) between January 1, 2012 and December 31, 2015 receive 1 bonus delegate. Limit 1. [Rule 14(a)(6)(iii)]  
> All Chambers: States electing a Republican majority to all chambers of the state legislature (and all chambers are presided over by a Republican) between January 1, 2012 and December 31, 2015 receive 1 bonus delegate. Limit 1. [Rule 14(a)(6)(iv)

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**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2016, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/march-15th-primaries-not-as-super-tuesday/749055/45 "2016-03-15T23:34:33Z")

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> [@Ambrosio\_Spinola](#):
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> They won’t make any calls until 8 pm Eastern time - some of the areas in the Panhandle have their polls close an hour later than the rest of the state.

So call it for Trump already. Panhandle’s Trump country. It’s practically Alabama del Sur.

Florida: The Farther North You Go, The Farther South You Get.

Once again, the Republicans shoot themselves in the foot with their New And Improved Primary and Caucus Rules designed to keep the nutballs down.

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**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2016, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/march-15th-primaries-not-as-super-tuesday/749055/46 "2016-03-15T23:36:33Z")

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Hillary Clinton has a massive lead right now in Florida 66%-31% with over 50% in… that’s going to be a massive delegate haul.

Also the CNN Exit polls showing about 10 point leads for Clinton in both North Carolina and Ohio.

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**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2016, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/march-15th-primaries-not-as-super-tuesday/749055/47 "2016-03-15T23:38:33Z")

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Clinton is way ahead in Florida. I don’t know if that will continue, but she is up 36% with 16% of the vote in.

I do not have cable, but the washington post is the best website I’ve seen to get real time updates on the results for the primaries.

I wonder if today is the day when the Sanders campaign can’t even pretend they can win anymore. It may look like it. We will see.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2016, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/march-15th-primaries-not-as-super-tuesday/749055/48 "2016-03-15T23:41:06Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> If a candidate campaigns in a forest, and no one is there to hear him …

The tree still falls.

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**Author:** ![Onomatopoeia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onomatopoeia/32/4145_2.png) [@Onomatopoeia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Onomatopoeia)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2016, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/march-15th-primaries-not-as-super-tuesday/749055/49 "2016-03-15T23:44:03Z")

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Trump is leading in North Carolina but not by much.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2016, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/march-15th-primaries-not-as-super-tuesday/749055/50 "2016-03-15T23:44:25Z")

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> [@MaxTheVool](#):
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> Can anyone explain how Florida has only 11 times as many GOP delegates as the Northern Mariana Islands, while it has around 4000 times the population?

Can anyone explain why the territories even have **any** delegates, since they have no votes in the EC?

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**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2016, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/march-15th-primaries-not-as-super-tuesday/749055/51 "2016-03-15T23:46:57Z")

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Freaking Ohio… goKasichgoKasichgoKasich…

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**Author:** ![Onomatopoeia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onomatopoeia/32/4145_2.png) [@Onomatopoeia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Onomatopoeia)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2016, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/march-15th-primaries-not-as-super-tuesday/749055/52 "2016-03-15T23:47:58Z")

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Ohio is starting to come in and Trump is ahead, probably just briefly.

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**Author:** ![galen\_ubal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/galen_ubal/32/4440_2.png) [@galen\_ubal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/galen_ubal)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2016, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/march-15th-primaries-not-as-super-tuesday/749055/53 "2016-03-15T23:48:39Z")

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Huh. Sanders is losing in Alachua county in Florida - at least at the moment. As it’s got the University of Florida there, I’d expected it to swing to him. He’s not getting as hammered, though.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2016, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/march-15th-primaries-not-as-super-tuesday/749055/54 "2016-03-15T23:49:26Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> Can anyone explain why the territories even have **any** delegates, since they have no votes in the EC?

Shrug. They have votes in the convention. There’s a delegation for Democrats Abroad, too. They already had their primary and Bernie won big.

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**Author:** ![Onomatopoeia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onomatopoeia/32/4145_2.png) [@Onomatopoeia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Onomatopoeia)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2016, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/march-15th-primaries-not-as-super-tuesday/749055/55 "2016-03-15T23:55:00Z")

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Trump is cleaning Rubio’s clock in Florida. The only area Rubio is winning is Miami.

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**Author:** ![Onomatopoeia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onomatopoeia/32/4145_2.png) [@Onomatopoeia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Onomatopoeia)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2016, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/march-15th-primaries-not-as-super-tuesday/749055/56 "2016-03-15T23:56:10Z")

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Kasich just took the lead in Ohio.

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**Author:** ![Onomatopoeia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onomatopoeia/32/4145_2.png) [@Onomatopoeia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Onomatopoeia)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2016, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/march-15th-primaries-not-as-super-tuesday/749055/57 "2016-03-15T23:57:26Z")

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Cruz is oh so slowly closing the gap between himself and Trump in North Carolina.

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**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2016, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/march-15th-primaries-not-as-super-tuesday/749055/58 "2016-03-16T00:00:47Z")

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Sanders is losing by 30 points in each state so far. I have no idea how the night will go, but if that continues then this is the end of his campaign. He will still campaign until this primary is over obviously, but it is just going to be for show after tonight.

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**Author:** ![Onomatopoeia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onomatopoeia/32/4145_2.png) [@Onomatopoeia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Onomatopoeia)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2016, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/march-15th-primaries-not-as-super-tuesday/749055/59 "2016-03-16T00:00:50Z")

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I am guessing they will call Florida for Trump at any time now as the panhandle polls just closed.

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**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2016, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/march-15th-primaries-not-as-super-tuesday/749055/60 "2016-03-16T00:01:19Z")

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CNN projects Trump and Clinton win Florida. That’s massive for both of them.

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