# March 15th Primaries (Not-as-Super Tuesday)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/march-15th-primaries-not-as-super-tuesday/749055>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [March 15, 2016, 12:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/march-15th-primaries-not-as-super-tuesday/749055 "2016-03-15T12:08:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Onomatopoeia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onomatopoeia/32/4145_2.png) [@Onomatopoeia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Onomatopoeia)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2016, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/march-15th-primaries-not-as-super-tuesday/749055/61 "2016-03-16T00:02:00Z")

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Yep, Florida was just called for Trump. What does Rubio do now?

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2016, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/march-15th-primaries-not-as-super-tuesday/749055/62 "2016-03-16T00:02:21Z")

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Yep, game over in Florida. Clinton is handing Bernie his hat.

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**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2016, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/march-15th-primaries-not-as-super-tuesday/749055/63 "2016-03-16T00:02:59Z")

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So the GOP is now the only interesting race tonight, with Clinton up over 30% with half of the Florida vote in it doesn’t really matter what happens in the other states (unless Bernie won several of them by large margins) the margin she will build from the Florida win alone will erase any margin wins Bernie is likely to see tonight elsewhere, and thus ends his candidacy.

Trump is going to win Florida and 99 delegates, we don’t know enough about Ohio yet but I have to think a sitting Governor, reelected by a huge margin in 2012, has to be able to pull out a win in his state. Hell, having the Secretary of State in your pocket is supposed to mean something, right?

That gives Kasich 66 delegates right around the time Marco Rubio becomes irrelevant. Kasich isn’t necessarily any more relevant unless he does well in Illinois, but he’s openly playing for a contested convention now. Rubio may see the establishment backers who have been behind him formally pull the plug after tonight.

Now that Florida is decided, Missouri and Illinois are the most important states. They are in the vein of winner take most, so Trump can actually build a 100+ delegate margin there if he wins those states by say 10% over his closest competitor, and that actually keeps Trump on the mathematical path to 1237.

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**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2016, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/march-15th-primaries-not-as-super-tuesday/749055/64 "2016-03-16T00:03:24Z")

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CNN Exit polls is showing Sanders has minor leads in Illinois and Missouri and Cruz up in Missouri while Trump is up in Illinois in close races.

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2016, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/march-15th-primaries-not-as-super-tuesday/749055/65 "2016-03-16T00:03:52Z")

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This is the nicest site for seeing results all in one page:

> **[U.S. House Election Results 2018 (Published 2018)](https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/11/06/us/elections/results-house-elections.html)**
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> See live U.S. House results and maps.

It’s always interesting to me to look at my old Ohio stomping grounds… and then be glad I no longer live in a swing state. 😃

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**Author:** ![The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_stainless_steel_rat/32/5727_2.png) [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Stainless_Steel_Rat)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2016, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/march-15th-primaries-not-as-super-tuesday/749055/66 "2016-03-16T00:04:22Z")

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About 40% of the Democratic vote in at Florida and Clinton has a 65-32% lead. Doubt that will change much. Trump’s up by 20 percentage points with about 35% of the Florida vote it, so unless Rubio has some counties stashed away where they are using the butterfly ballots, he’s going down.

Ohio and N. Carolina are showing very few precincts reporting, so no observations there, and Illinois and Missouri should be closing shortly.

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**Author:** ![Lord\_Feldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lord_feldon/32/341_2.png) [@Lord\_Feldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Feldon)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2016, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/march-15th-primaries-not-as-super-tuesday/749055/67 "2016-03-16T00:05:04Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> Can anyone explain why the territories even have **any** delegates, since they have no votes in the EC?

Because they still have checkbooks. It’s harder to get money from people who aren’t involved in the process at all.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2016, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/march-15th-primaries-not-as-super-tuesday/749055/68 "2016-03-16T00:06:02Z")

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And in OH and NC Clinton has nearly 2-to-1 leads.

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2016, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/march-15th-primaries-not-as-super-tuesday/749055/69 "2016-03-16T00:08:33Z")

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> [@Martin\_Hyde](#):
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> Now that Florida is decided, Missouri and Illinois are the most important states. They are in the vein of winner take most, so Trump can actually build a 100+ delegate margin there if he wins those states by say 10% over his closest competitor, and that actually keeps Trump on the mathematical path to 1237.

CNN’s exit polling shows a close race between Trump and Cruz in both Missouri and Illinois. If I’ve counted right, the next win for Cruz will give him eight and allow him to be nominated at the convention. (If they don’t change the rules again.)

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2016, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/march-15th-primaries-not-as-super-tuesday/749055/70 "2016-03-16T00:10:19Z")

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> [@Johnny\_Ace](#):
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> The tree still falls.

. . . And now the candidate can build a **platform!** Nyuk-nyuk-nyuk! I’ll show myself out.

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**Author:** ![Onomatopoeia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onomatopoeia/32/4145_2.png) [@Onomatopoeia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Onomatopoeia)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2016, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/march-15th-primaries-not-as-super-tuesday/749055/71 "2016-03-16T00:11:29Z")

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> [@jsgoddess](#):
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> This is the nicest site for seeing results all in one page:
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> [U.S. House Election Results 2018 - The New York Times](http://www.nytimes.com/elections/results)
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> It’s always interesting to me to look at my old Ohio stomping grounds… and then be glad I no longer live in a swing state. 😃

Eh. [I think this one is better](http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/2016/primaries/2016-03-15#FL-GOP) as it shows precinct by precinct, and you can hover over each to see the real-time stats.

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**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2016, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/march-15th-primaries-not-as-super-tuesday/749055/72 "2016-03-16T00:11:53Z")

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Ohio Secretary of State has announced a couple counties polls have had voting times extended to 8:30.

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2016, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/march-15th-primaries-not-as-super-tuesday/749055/73 "2016-03-16T00:11:55Z")

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Bernie Sanders finally has a lead in an Ohio county: Athens county, an Appalachian county where Ohio University is.

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2016, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/march-15th-primaries-not-as-super-tuesday/749055/74 "2016-03-16T00:13:01Z")

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> [@Onomatopoeia](#):
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> Eh. [I think this one is better](http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/2016/primaries/2016-03-15#FL-GOP) as it shows precinct by precinct, and you can hover over each to see the real-time stats.

Cool, but I do like the tidier ones. 🙂

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**Author:** ![RandMcnally](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b782af/32.png) [@RandMcnally](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RandMcnally)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2016, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/march-15th-primaries-not-as-super-tuesday/749055/75 "2016-03-16T00:14:26Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Rubio said today that he will continue his campaign even if he loses Florida.

He’s committed to his crusade to dispel with the notion that Barack Obama doesn’t know what he’s doing.

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2016, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/march-15th-primaries-not-as-super-tuesday/749055/76 "2016-03-16T00:14:36Z")

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Hecklers at the Rubio speech.

I don’t think he sounds like he’s going to continue.

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**Author:** ![Onomatopoeia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onomatopoeia/32/4145_2.png) [@Onomatopoeia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Onomatopoeia)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2016, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/march-15th-primaries-not-as-super-tuesday/749055/77 "2016-03-16T00:15:16Z")

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Wow, Clinton’s cleaning up tonight. Yeah, Bernie’s done. ☹

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**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2016, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/march-15th-primaries-not-as-super-tuesday/749055/78 "2016-03-16T00:18:31Z")

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[In honor of Bernie Sander’s failed 2016 presidential bid.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDKO6XYXioc)

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2016, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/march-15th-primaries-not-as-super-tuesday/749055/79 "2016-03-16T00:23:05Z")

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Bernie still has a chance at MO and IL, though the optics of losing OH and FL will probably more than make up for any benefit from that – those are the two most important states in every recent Presidential election. I don’t think it’s over, but it’s losing steam.

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**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2016, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/march-15th-primaries-not-as-super-tuesday/749055/80 "2016-03-16T00:24:17Z")

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Rubio suspends.

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