# March 15th Primaries (Not-as-Super Tuesday)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/march-15th-primaries-not-as-super-tuesday/749055>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [March 15, 2016, 12:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/march-15th-primaries-not-as-super-tuesday/749055 "2016-03-15T12:08:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Nonsuch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nonsuch/32/2922_2.png) [@Nonsuch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nonsuch)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2016, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/march-15th-primaries-not-as-super-tuesday/749055/101 "2016-03-16T00:48:03Z")

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> [@Morgenstern](#):
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> ??? Ohio is only 13% counted. Do you mean North Carolina?

No, Ohio’s being called for Clinton too.

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2016, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/march-15th-primaries-not-as-super-tuesday/749055/102 "2016-03-16T00:49:00Z")

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Frankly, Kasich winning Ohio is probably an overall good for Trump. It’s guaranteed none of his voters would have gone to Trump in future primaries. Just as well he’s staying in to bleed off Cruz.

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**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2016, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/march-15th-primaries-not-as-super-tuesday/749055/103 "2016-03-16T00:49:14Z")

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FiveThirtyEight’s Harry Enten:

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> Want to know why Clinton won Ohio? Look no further than white voters. According to the exit polls, she won white voters 51 percent to 48 percent. She lost them in Michigan by 14 percentage points.

Yeah, with results like that plus her lead among black voters in the large cities, Sanders never had a chance. From what we’re seeing the Ohio voters are older than in Michigan, and largely more establishment minded. Ohio, unlike Michigan, isn’t considered a slave to the automobile industry and is probably less energized by anti-trade rhetoric.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2016, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/march-15th-primaries-not-as-super-tuesday/749055/104 "2016-03-16T00:50:26Z")

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> [@Morgenstern](#):
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> I read that Sanders had to win 54% of the delegates (before 3/15 primaries) to be successful. Hillary is leading in all 5 primaries, 2 have been called for her. I’m betting Sanders sees the light and throws in the towel later tonight. He’s just wasting his time from this point on.

He’s not wasting his time at all so long as campaigning still gives him a national podium to spread his message.

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2016, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/march-15th-primaries-not-as-super-tuesday/749055/105 "2016-03-16T00:50:33Z")

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Kasich takes Ohio.

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**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2016, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/march-15th-primaries-not-as-super-tuesday/749055/106 "2016-03-16T00:51:10Z")

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At this point, the most entertaining part of the rest of this presidential season will be seeing how the GOP implodes and divides itself now that they have Trump as their nominee.

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**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2016, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/march-15th-primaries-not-as-super-tuesday/749055/107 "2016-03-16T00:51:19Z")

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nm

Should have refreshed my page.

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2016, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/march-15th-primaries-not-as-super-tuesday/749055/108 "2016-03-16T00:52:07Z")

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> [@CarnalK](#):
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> Frankly, Kasich winning Ohio is probably an overall good for Trump. It’s guaranteed none of his voters would have gone to Trump in future primaries. Just as well he’s staying in to bleed off Cruz.

Yeah, Clinton is clapping her hands in delight. She’s just about put Sanders away, and now the Republicans are showing every sign of continuing their circular firing squad.

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2016, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/march-15th-primaries-not-as-super-tuesday/749055/109 "2016-03-16T00:54:05Z")

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Trump is sure beating that 30-35% ceiling he supposedly had.

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**Author:** ![Nonsuch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nonsuch/32/2922_2.png) [@Nonsuch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nonsuch)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2016, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/march-15th-primaries-not-as-super-tuesday/749055/110 "2016-03-16T00:54:53Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> He’s not wasting his time at all so long as campaigning still gives him a national podium to spread his message.

With not even a fig leaf of a chance at being the nominee, I’m guessing that podium is going to shrink. He can go on giving speeches, but I expect the tone (and volume) of coverage he’s been getting is going to change after the night.

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**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2016, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/march-15th-primaries-not-as-super-tuesday/749055/111 "2016-03-16T00:55:44Z")

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Sanders’ win in Michigan was only noteworthy in the first place because the polls had called it so differently.

It may have represented a certain amount of statement voting, assuming that Clinton was going to win, and relative complacency by the less extreme left of the party. My WAG is that turnout was up today and that that helped Clinton … moderates saw the damage that a prolonged but ultimately doomed Sanders campaign could do to Clinton, and thus the boon it would be to Trump, and came out to declare loud and clear that they want the healing phase to start now.

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2016, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/march-15th-primaries-not-as-super-tuesday/749055/112 "2016-03-16T01:08:26Z")

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> [@DSeid](#):
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> My WAG is that turnout was up today and that that helped Clinton … moderates saw the damage that a prolonged but ultimately doomed Sanders campaign could do to Clinton, and thus the boon it would be to Trump, and came out to declare loud and clear that they want the healing phase to start now.

IOW, your WAG is that everyone thought like you do. Lol.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2016, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/march-15th-primaries-not-as-super-tuesday/749055/113 "2016-03-16T01:10:54Z")

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Rubio’s speech sounded like he was running for High Priest instead of President.

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**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2016, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/march-15th-primaries-not-as-super-tuesday/749055/114 "2016-03-16T01:21:59Z")

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> [@CarnalK](#):
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> Frankly, Kasich winning Ohio is probably an overall good for Trump. It’s guaranteed none of his voters would have gone to Trump in future primaries. Just as well he’s staying in to bleed off Cruz.

Yea, this Primary season seems to be engineered to give Kasich just barely enough hope to hold on and screw up Cruz’s chances.

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**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2016, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/march-15th-primaries-not-as-super-tuesday/749055/115 "2016-03-16T01:23:06Z")

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Trump may have lost Ohio’s 66 delegates but he’s on track to win a hefty majority of Illinois’ 69 delegates.

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2016, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/march-15th-primaries-not-as-super-tuesday/749055/116 "2016-03-16T01:24:23Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Rubio’s speech sounded like he was running for High Priest instead of President.

In his mind, High Christian Priest is part of the president’s duties.

I like Hillary and Bernie, but it’s time for Bernie to read the tea leaves and go back to the Senate.

Good for Kasich, but where else does he win? California? New Jersey? Maybe Christie’s endorsement could prove toxic for Trump in NJ.

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**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2016, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/march-15th-primaries-not-as-super-tuesday/749055/117 "2016-03-16T01:27:14Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> Good for Kasich, but where else does he win? California? New Jersey?

Are there any other States where he’s the Governor? That seems to be what all his wins so far have in common.

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2016, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/march-15th-primaries-not-as-super-tuesday/749055/118 "2016-03-16T01:36:04Z")

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> [@Simplicio](#):
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> Are there any other States where he’s the Governor? That seems to be what all his wins so far have in common.

It seems to me that California might be fertile ground for Kasich. Not terribly evangelical, perhaps less conservative than other states. Some of the eastern states like DE, MD, PA could also be good ground for him. He has no chance to catch Trump, but he and Cruz can and perhaps probably will deny Trump a first ballot convention win.

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**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2016, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/march-15th-primaries-not-as-super-tuesday/749055/119 "2016-03-16T01:37:10Z")

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**Carnal K** ,

More informed by the Vox article linked to on another thread that low turnout, surprisingly, helps Sanders, and higher turnout Clinton. But, yes I tend to think that I am not so special: if I am thinking a particular way odds are it is not a brilliant inspiration but something that many other more centrist Democrats are thinking as well. And there are a lot of us. If presuming I am fairly ordinary and common strikes you as funny, well I don’t know what to say.

Another hypothesis is that those same more moderate Democrats were turned off by the alleged connection of Sanders supporters with the protest in Chicago. That one does not resonate with me, but could be.

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2016, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/march-15th-primaries-not-as-super-tuesday/749055/120 "2016-03-16T01:38:37Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> It seems to me that California might be fertile ground for Kasich.

Plus, doesn’t he have Schwarzenegger out stumping for him?

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