# March 17: the overshadowed-by-covid-19 primaries (FL,IL,OH,AZ) **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [March 13, 2020, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/march-17-the-overshadowed-by-covid-19-primaries-fl-il-oh-az/849408 "2020-03-13T13:28:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2020, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/march-17-the-overshadowed-by-covid-19-primaries-fl-il-oh-az/849408/61 "2020-03-18T00:57:26Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > Anyone hearing results on today’s elections? It was a foregone conclusion but Trump got enough delegates today to officially be the 2020 Republican nominee. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2020, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/march-17-the-overshadowed-by-covid-19-primaries-fl-il-oh-az/849408/62 "2020-03-18T01:04:20Z")
Biden’s voters are literally risking their lives to vote, and Sanders voters are more likely to be out at a pub or smoking a joint and rambling on twitter. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2020, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/march-17-the-overshadowed-by-covid-19-primaries-fl-il-oh-az/849408/63 "2020-03-18T01:05:32Z")
(Response to Little Nemo…) Fuck. I almost took a Republican ballot just to vote against that guy, “Rocky” is taking him on. > **[Your ballot explained](https://www.ballotready.org/il/17/roque-de-la-fuente)** > > See your ballot, research candidates and referendums, and vote informed ---
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2020, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/march-17-the-overshadowed-by-covid-19-primaries-fl-il-oh-az/849408/64 "2020-03-18T01:40:07Z")
Sanders problem is simple, young people don’t vote enough to get him enough delegates. Been that way for a long time for the under 30 group. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2020, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/march-17-the-overshadowed-by-covid-19-primaries-fl-il-oh-az/849408/65 "2020-03-18T01:45:33Z")
Biden may be old, but he’s still sharp enough and graceful enough to be president. ---
**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2020, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/march-17-the-overshadowed-by-covid-19-primaries-fl-il-oh-az/849408/66 "2020-03-18T02:05:16Z")
Well there is no floor on potus behavior anymore, so yeah. ---
**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2020, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/march-17-the-overshadowed-by-covid-19-primaries-fl-il-oh-az/849408/67 "2020-03-18T02:07:37Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > Biden may be old, but he’s still sharp enough and graceful enough to be president. Certainly by comparison… ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2020, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/march-17-the-overshadowed-by-covid-19-primaries-fl-il-oh-az/849408/68 "2020-03-18T02:10:06Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > Biden’s voters are literally risking their lives to vote, and Sanders voters are more likely to be out at a pub or smoking a joint and rambling on twitter. Heh. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2020, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/march-17-the-overshadowed-by-covid-19-primaries-fl-il-oh-az/849408/69 "2020-03-18T02:17:49Z")
Stick a fork in Bernie, he’s done. Biden campaign switching to general election mode. ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2020, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/march-17-the-overshadowed-by-covid-19-primaries-fl-il-oh-az/849408/70 "2020-03-18T02:20:16Z")
GTFO, Bernie! ---
**Author:** ![Ulf\_the\_Unwashed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Ulf\_the\_Unwashed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ulf_the_Unwashed)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2020, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/march-17-the-overshadowed-by-covid-19-primaries-fl-il-oh-az/849408/71 "2020-03-18T02:56:59Z")
Every county in Florida, on the heels of every county in Michigan and Missouri, not to mention Mississippi. Looks like every county except maybe Champaign in IL. He’s getting creamed in counties that he won 2-1 over Clinton last time around. Getting up to a 300-delegate deficit. Where exactly is he expecting to make up the deficit? The people are speaking, and they’re getting loud and insistent enough that even a 78-year-old ought to be able to hear it. Will he? Fingers crossed. But I ain’t holding my breath. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2020, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/march-17-the-overshadowed-by-covid-19-primaries-fl-il-oh-az/849408/72 "2020-03-18T03:07:05Z")
> [@Ulf\_the\_Unwashed](#): > > Every county in Florida, on the heels of every county in Michigan and Missouri, not to mention Mississippi. Looks like every county except maybe Champaign in IL. He’s getting creamed in counties that he won 2-1 over Clinton last time around. Getting up to a 300-delegate deficit. Where exactly is he expecting to make up the deficit? The people are speaking, and they’re getting loud and insistent enough that even a 78-year-old ought to be able to hear it. > > Will he? > > Fingers crossed. But I ain’t holding my breath. Yeah, it’s over. Only reason to delay now is to help trump. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2020, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/march-17-the-overshadowed-by-covid-19-primaries-fl-il-oh-az/849408/73 "2020-03-18T03:08:32Z")
> **[What Went Down In The Arizona, Florida And Illinois Primaries](https://fivethirtyeight.com/live-blog/primary-election-arizona-florida-illinois/)** > > Latest election results and updates on Tuesday March 17, 2020 from Democratic primary contests in Arizona, Florida and Illinois, featuring contenders for the Democratic nomination for president, Joe Biden, Bernie Sanders and Tulsi Gabbard. Ohio has... ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2020, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/march-17-the-overshadowed-by-covid-19-primaries-fl-il-oh-az/849408/74 "2020-03-18T03:08:50Z")
Bernie lost every single county in Florida and may lose every county in Illinois ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2020, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/march-17-the-overshadowed-by-covid-19-primaries-fl-il-oh-az/849408/75 "2020-03-18T03:10:46Z")
> [@dalej42](#): > > Bernie lost every single county in Florida and may lose every county in Illinois Ugh, looks like Bernie will get one county in Illinois. Hopefully, that’s the only county he wins all night. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2020, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/march-17-the-overshadowed-by-covid-19-primaries-fl-il-oh-az/849408/76 "2020-03-18T03:17:39Z")
> [@ZipperJJ](#): > > Uh, no. With more than 24 hours notice the state can set up alternative means of voting. > > Why not send a ballot to every registered voter in the state by mail, and make it free to return? Ohio allows absentee voting without a reason. But you have to request a ballot in time and return it in time with a stamp. > > If we knew there would have been a health crisis, we could have all done this anyway. But we didn’t. > > Heck, the timing of this outbreak even messed up the ability of people to campaign in our state. If they knew that there would be an at-minimum 6 day turnaround between requesting a ballot and casting your vote, it would have helped campaign plans as well. > > I’m not saying the lawsuit was unfounded. I’m not saying the initial judge’s decision was poor. I’m saying that I was ok with the POSTPONEMENT of this election because now everyone who wasn’t going to be able to vote in person will have time to vote by mail, or vote in person when the emergency is lifted. The issue is the precedence. Not whether or not you think it was a good call or not, or whether there are possible ways to still grant the right to vote … Who has the power to make those decisions? IF the executive branch has the power to make the decision about a fundamental exercise of citizenship independently, then they can abuse that power. And we have an executive in the White House who illustrates that power that can be abused will be abused at some point. ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2020, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/march-17-the-overshadowed-by-covid-19-primaries-fl-il-oh-az/849408/77 "2020-03-18T03:47:29Z")
Cosigned. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2020, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/march-17-the-overshadowed-by-covid-19-primaries-fl-il-oh-az/849408/78 "2020-03-18T05:36:55Z")
> [@dalej42](#): > > Ugh, looks like Bernie will get one county in Illinois. Hopefully, that’s the only county he wins all night. He might win some rural counties in AZ, but they got nuttin. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2020, 10:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/march-17-the-overshadowed-by-covid-19-primaries-fl-il-oh-az/849408/79 "2020-03-18T10:31:48Z")
It’s probably over, but Bernie doesn’t hurt Biden’s chances by staying in the race and pushing for progressive policies. Like has been said over and over, Bernie has to wrap up his race in his own way and in a way that minimizes the sense of despair for his supporters, then he can shift to supporting Biden in the general election. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2020, 10:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/march-17-the-overshadowed-by-covid-19-primaries-fl-il-oh-az/849408/80 "2020-03-18T10:54:09Z")
I think the point made in this thread that Sanders should bow out and prevent the needless gathering of people at polls is a valid one. Although downballot races would suffer. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/march-17-the-overshadowed-by-covid-19-primaries-fl-il-oh-az/849408.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/march-17-the-overshadowed-by-covid-19-primaries-fl-il-oh-az/849408.md?page=5)