# Marching forth to March 4th - are the QAnon/Trump supporters actually doing anything? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [March 2, 2021, 10:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marching-forth-to-march-4th-are-the-qanon-trump-supporters-actually-doing-anything/934103 "2021-03-02T10:30:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2021, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marching-forth-to-march-4th-are-the-qanon-trump-supporters-actually-doing-anything/934103/41 "2021-03-04T16:31:18Z")
You are ascribing a degree of learning and foresight to these people that is not in evidence. ---
**Author:** ![Deeg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/deeg/32/2955_2.png) [@Deeg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Deeg)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2021, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marching-forth-to-march-4th-are-the-qanon-trump-supporters-actually-doing-anything/934103/42 "2021-03-04T16:32:45Z")
We saw a couple of GOP senators publicly change their mind after the capital riots so I don’t think it requires too much optimism. ---
**Author:** ![gdave](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gdave/32/3683_2.png) [@gdave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gdave)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2021, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marching-forth-to-march-4th-are-the-qanon-trump-supporters-actually-doing-anything/934103/43 "2021-03-04T16:58:49Z")
> [@Hari\_Seldon](#): > > On the other hand, Q has a new meme that the real date is March 20. I have no idea where that date comes from. At first, I thought it might have something to do with the Julian calendar, but March 4 on the Gregorian calendar is actually Feb. 20 Julian. Legoland California opened on March 20. The pieces all fit together! … Literally. … I’ll be leaving now. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2021, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marching-forth-to-march-4th-are-the-qanon-trump-supporters-actually-doing-anything/934103/44 "2021-03-04T17:47:23Z")
> [@gdave](#): > > Legoland California opened on March 20. The pieces all fit together! And when it reopens, they’ll be lining up for blocks. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2021, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marching-forth-to-march-4th-are-the-qanon-trump-supporters-actually-doing-anything/934103/45 "2021-03-04T18:15:02Z")
> [@Tamerlane](#): > > Just keep marching it along down the line. Pretty soon December 13th will be the new January 20th. Then it will be March 4th 2022. Prophets of Doom/Ascension have always been able to recalibrate their numbers. If they keep kicking the can down the road they’ll eventually make it to January 20, 2024 where they have a shot more in line with reality. Never underestimate the ability of True Believers to handwave away predictions that don’t work out. Jehovah’s Witnesses are up to [six](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unfulfilled_Watch_Tower_Society_predictions#Armageddon_to_come_within_20th_century) armageddens now – seven if you count a vaguely worded prediction about before the end of the 20th century – and they are still arouund. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2021, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marching-forth-to-march-4th-are-the-qanon-trump-supporters-actually-doing-anything/934103/46 "2021-03-04T18:35:06Z")
Q-anon shaman, of course. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2021, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marching-forth-to-march-4th-are-the-qanon-trump-supporters-actually-doing-anything/934103/47 "2021-03-04T18:41:52Z")
You forget the 17/22 correlation, comrade. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2021, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marching-forth-to-march-4th-are-the-qanon-trump-supporters-actually-doing-anything/934103/48 "2021-03-04T18:45:43Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > For fun I did a search on Twitter for “March 4th.” I search my usual suspects on FB, and nothing. Lorry Corriea has blocked me, so i cant check what he has said, however. ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2021, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marching-forth-to-march-4th-are-the-qanon-trump-supporters-actually-doing-anything/934103/49 "2021-03-04T22:41:05Z")
Goalpost Shifting Team completed another succesful project! > **[QAnon Theorists Switch Date to March 20 After No Trump Inauguration](https://www.newsweek.com/qanon-theorists-switch-date-march-20-after-no-trump-inauguration-call-4th-false-flag-1573871)** > > Right-wing conspiracists who support QAnon began to express doubt over the significance of March 4—which they previously believed to be the date of Donald Trump's re-inauguration—last month. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2021, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marching-forth-to-march-4th-are-the-qanon-trump-supporters-actually-doing-anything/934103/50 "2021-03-04T22:47:46Z")
As per that article: > [@](#): > > Ken also believes that “Trump is still in command of the military” and “Biden is acting as president as a ruse while the Pope and others are rounded up,” according to Weigel. Good luck with that, Ken. ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2021, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marching-forth-to-march-4th-are-the-qanon-trump-supporters-actually-doing-anything/934103/51 "2021-03-04T22:49:04Z")
We will see who is right in 16 days. Hope you like eating crow! 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![Bootb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e19b73/32.png) [@Bootb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bootb)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2021, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marching-forth-to-march-4th-are-the-qanon-trump-supporters-actually-doing-anything/934103/52 "2021-03-05T00:16:36Z")
I was thinking earlier that this is remarkably like the predictions of the Rapture that never came true. A remarkably large number of people have the ability to just shrug and say “Well, I guess the new date predicted by our leader is actually the correct one.” This is the same thing applied to a secular object. ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2021, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marching-forth-to-march-4th-are-the-qanon-trump-supporters-actually-doing-anything/934103/53 "2021-03-05T00:19:45Z")
I wonder if there are any folks willing to start wagering on these predictions? Could be lucrative for non-crazy folks. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Bredin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@John\_Bredin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Bredin)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2021, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marching-forth-to-march-4th-are-the-qanon-trump-supporters-actually-doing-anything/934103/54 "2021-03-05T00:26:50Z")
> [@wguy123](#): > > We will see who is right in 16 days. Hope you like eating crow! 🤣 Crow yesterday and crow tomorrow, but never crow today. 😄 ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2021, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marching-forth-to-march-4th-are-the-qanon-trump-supporters-actually-doing-anything/934103/55 "2021-03-05T00:35:22Z")
Not actually something that Gyrate said, it’s from a linked article Gyrate quoted: > [@Gyrate](#): > > Ken also believes that “Trump is still in command of the military” and “Biden is acting as president as a ruse while the Pope and others are rounded up,” according to Weigel. Holy fucking shit! And we’ve got one of these in congress now! Thanks, Georgia? ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2021, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marching-forth-to-march-4th-are-the-qanon-trump-supporters-actually-doing-anything/934103/56 "2021-03-05T00:41:14Z")
> [@wguy123](#): > > I wonder if there are any folks willing to start wagering on these predictions? Could be lucrative for non-crazy folks. Don’t London bookies offer odds on just about everything? ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2021, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marching-forth-to-march-4th-are-the-qanon-trump-supporters-actually-doing-anything/934103/57 "2021-03-05T00:56:19Z")
> [@etasyde](#): > > > [@ThelmaLou](#): > > > > The House canceled its plans for Thursday votes as word of the possible threats spread. > > This, I think, is a serious mistake. The QAnon crowd should be afforded _zero_ capacity to chill the functioning of the state like this. While certainly preparations should be made against possible misdeeds by these traitors, congress itself should continue to operate in flagrant defiance of QAnon. The problem is that such preparations are kinda expensive politically. All those troops would need to be called up again. All those National Guard called into duty, which would likely be enough of a deterrent that, once again, nothing would happen. And since it’s not like they’ll get what they actually want—causing enough disruption to make Trump president—I think simply not being in session still acts as a deterrent. Sure, if they keep doing this thing of moving it back over and over, such a tactic isn’t sustainable, either. But I’m okay with it this one time. I expect that, on March 20, though, they’ll just put up a small show of extra force rather than shut down again. And then they’ll do nothing after that for whatever day they move it to. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2021, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marching-forth-to-march-4th-are-the-qanon-trump-supporters-actually-doing-anything/934103/58 "2021-03-05T01:00:09Z")
> [@Bootb](#): > > This is the same thing applied to a secular object Actually, I think this is a religion now, worshipping the Golden Trump. It’s no longer secular. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2021, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marching-forth-to-march-4th-are-the-qanon-trump-supporters-actually-doing-anything/934103/59 "2021-03-05T01:08:04Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Don’t London bookies offer odds on just about everything? That wouldn’t help. You need an idiot to bet with, not a bookie. The bookies would only be offering prices _to_ the idiots. ---
**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2021, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marching-forth-to-march-4th-are-the-qanon-trump-supporters-actually-doing-anything/934103/60 "2021-03-05T01:15:25Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > As per that article: > > > [@](#): > > > > Ken also believes that “Trump is still in command of the military” and “Biden is acting as president as a ruse while the Pope and others are rounded up,” according to Weigel. I wonder whether it’s possible to just push this sort of believing along a little bit further. If they don’t need to worry about Biden’s appearing to be POTUS because they think Trump’s still in control, then surely they don’t need to do anything about it, do they? And if Trump’s really in control, then no sense in their bothering to do anything about all those people pretending to be Congress, is there? And if Trump’s really in control, then the wall must have actually been built and all the Wrong People™ must have been pushed out, so all those apparently diverse people they see on the street must just be actors, so of course the right thing to do must be to be nice to them and play along, right? They can go cheerfully on thinking the country’s already exactly how they want it to be, and therefore stay home and not shoot anybody or blow anybody up. > [@Bootb](#): > > I was thinking earlier that this is remarkably like the predictions of the Rapture that never came true. A remarkably large number of people have the ability to just shrug and say “Well, I guess the new date predicted by our leader is actually the correct one.” > > This is the same thing applied to a secular object It’s not just the Rapture, it seems to be a common cult phenomenon. Prophet Leader says X will happen on Y date. Y arrives, X does not. A few people will say ‘hmmm, PL must not be a prophet after all.’ Way too many of PL’s followers will instead cheerfully accept PL saying ‘New Vision! Actual date is Y+Z!’ Often things keep right on going long after PL is mouldering in the grave. I’m not so sure the people believing QAnon do think they’re dealing with a secular object; I think they’re perilously close to, if not already at, Prophet Trump. But then, it’s always seemed suspicious to me that people objecting to flag burning so often use the word “desecration.” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marching-forth-to-march-4th-are-the-qanon-trump-supporters-actually-doing-anything/934103.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marching-forth-to-march-4th-are-the-qanon-trump-supporters-actually-doing-anything/934103.md?page=4)