# Marching forth to March 4th - are the QAnon/Trump supporters actually doing anything?

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [March 2, 2021, 10:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marching-forth-to-march-4th-are-the-qanon-trump-supporters-actually-doing-anything/934103 "2021-03-02T10:30:44Z")\
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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2021, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marching-forth-to-march-4th-are-the-qanon-trump-supporters-actually-doing-anything/934103/61 "2021-03-05T02:03:14Z")

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> [@Riemann](#):
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> That wouldn’t help. You need an idiot to bet with, not a bookie. The bookies would only be offering prices _to_ the idiots.

I certainly have no intention of betting. I’m just wondering about odds. There are probably people who would bet on this. People who bet will bet on anything.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2021, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marching-forth-to-march-4th-are-the-qanon-trump-supporters-actually-doing-anything/934103/62 "2021-03-05T02:07:59Z")

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I bet you’re right.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2021, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marching-forth-to-march-4th-are-the-qanon-trump-supporters-actually-doing-anything/934103/63 "2021-03-05T02:10:16Z")

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I rest my case.

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**Author:** ![eenerms](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/cdc98d/32.png) [@eenerms](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eenerms)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2021, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marching-forth-to-march-4th-are-the-qanon-trump-supporters-actually-doing-anything/934103/64 "2021-03-05T02:34:59Z")

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It was really quiet at the Capitol Hill today. Wonder when the Guard will get to go home and they clean up the place?

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2021, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marching-forth-to-march-4th-are-the-qanon-trump-supporters-actually-doing-anything/934103/65 "2021-03-05T02:42:01Z")

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> [@eenerms](#):
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> Wonder when the Guard will get to go home and they clean up the place?

Well, when domestic terrorists stop presenting a credible threat of further attempts at violent insurrection, I guess.

But it’s my understanding that the government [has already embarked on cleaning up the approximately $30 million worth of damage that the Jan. 6 insurrectionists caused to the Capitol](https://www.npr.org/sections/insurrection-at-the-capitol/2021/02/24/970977612/architect-of-the-capitol-outlines-30-million-in-damages-from-pro-trump-riot).

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**Author:** ![PatrickLondon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/patricklondon/32/4422_2.png) [@PatrickLondon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatrickLondon)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2021, 7:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marching-forth-to-march-4th-are-the-qanon-trump-supporters-actually-doing-anything/934103/66 "2021-03-05T07:29:13Z")

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> [@thorny\_locust](#):
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> Often things keep right on going long after PL is mouldering in the grave.

That’s when you get the rival claimants to inheriting the mantle. Though who would be the Sunni and Shia in the Trumpian succession, I wouldn’t know.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2021, 12:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marching-forth-to-march-4th-are-the-qanon-trump-supporters-actually-doing-anything/934103/67 "2021-03-05T12:00:42Z")

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> [@eenerms](#):
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> It was really quiet at the Capitol Hill today. Wonder when the Guard will get to go home and they clean up the place?

The past tense makes this sentiment a lot easier to make. Congratulations.

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**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2021, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marching-forth-to-march-4th-are-the-qanon-trump-supporters-actually-doing-anything/934103/68 "2021-03-05T14:45:18Z")

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I agree with you. I think we need to keep January 6th in the front and center of the public consciousness, and the shutdown was a good reminder of the horrors of that day.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2021, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marching-forth-to-march-4th-are-the-qanon-trump-supporters-actually-doing-anything/934103/69 "2021-03-05T15:10:19Z")

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Just woke up… did Trump get 'magaurated?

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**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2021, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marching-forth-to-march-4th-are-the-qanon-trump-supporters-actually-doing-anything/934103/70 "2021-03-05T19:21:56Z")

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[QAnon Shaman Jacob Chansley, From Jail, Calls Senate Sacred Space, Says He Stopped People Stealing Muffins (msn.com)](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/qanon-shaman-jacob-chansley-from-jail-calls-senate-sacred-space-says-he-stopped-people-stealing-muffins/ar-BB1ef1RV?ocid=uxbndlbing)

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2021, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marching-forth-to-march-4th-are-the-qanon-trump-supporters-actually-doing-anything/934103/71 "2021-03-05T19:31:35Z")

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> [@Kimstu](#):
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> But it’s my understanding that the government [has already embarked on cleaning up the approximately $30 million worth of damage that the Jan. 6 insurrectionists caused to the Capitol](https://www.npr.org/sections/insurrection-at-the-capitol/2021/02/24/970977612/architect-of-the-capitol-outlines-30-million-in-damages-from-pro-trump-riot).

Bill them, and bill trump. Make everyone convicted of any crime connected to the Jan 6th insurrection pay a share of that or rot in jail.

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**Post date:** [March 6, 2021, 7:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marching-forth-to-march-4th-are-the-qanon-trump-supporters-actually-doing-anything/934103/72 "2021-03-06T07:19:08Z")

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> [@Northern\_Piper](#):
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> Actually, I think this is a religion now, worshipping the Golden Trump. It’s no longer secular.

A.k.a. the Golden Ass. Bow down, all you CPAC attendees!

I’ve seen it suggested that Trump is really the Antichrist. I tried to find a list of attributes of the Antichrist to see how many boxes Trump ticks, but there doesn’t seem to be one.

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**Post date:** [March 6, 2021, 7:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marching-forth-to-march-4th-are-the-qanon-trump-supporters-actually-doing-anything/934103/73 "2021-03-06T07:34:39Z")

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I got a fair number of pages by googling “antichrist checklist.”

Of course, a significant number of them are hosted by evangelical sources that misread the concept of “antichrist” to mean “when the epic battle comes, to end the material world and launch God’s kingdom, the Antichrist will be _the_ leader of the demonic forces,” or whatever. Whereas in the original theology it wasn’t “the” Antichrist, singular, but rather more conceptual and generalized, i.e. “an” antichrist as a being who embodies the opposite of Christ’s characteristics. In principle there can be many possible antichrists, and their unifying characteristic is that they all lead the weak believer astray from the true path.

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**Post date:** [March 6, 2021, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marching-forth-to-march-4th-are-the-qanon-trump-supporters-actually-doing-anything/934103/74 "2021-03-06T16:54:33Z")

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> [@SuntanLotion](#):
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> QAnon Shaman Jacob Chansley, From Jail, Calls Senate Sacred Space, Says He Stopped People Stealing Muffins ([msn.com](http://msn.com))

Well, to be fair that should be worth a day or two off his sentence.

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**Post date:** [March 7, 2021, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marching-forth-to-march-4th-are-the-qanon-trump-supporters-actually-doing-anything/934103/75 "2021-03-07T02:09:34Z")

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Were there any gatherings in DC on the 4th? I didn’t hear about any.

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**Post date:** [March 7, 2021, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marching-forth-to-march-4th-are-the-qanon-trump-supporters-actually-doing-anything/934103/76 "2021-03-07T02:38:10Z")

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Gatherings? I’m sure there were gatherings in DC on the 4th. Right wing riots? No. Congress was closed that day. I guess that means that Republicans won, by tricking everyone into being cautious about that day. Way to go, Republicans!  
_blows kazoo_

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**Author:** ![Hari\_Seldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hari_seldon/32/5173_2.png) [@Hari\_Seldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hari_Seldon)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2021, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marching-forth-to-march-4th-are-the-qanon-trump-supporters-actually-doing-anything/934103/77 "2021-03-07T21:44:50Z")

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> [@Munch](#):
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> Because they base their nonsense on the ratification of the 14th Amendment, which was in 1868 - during Grant’s term.

I understand (more or less) the claim that all subsequent presidents have been illegitimate. But then what makes Trump _ **legitimate** _?

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**Post date:** [March 7, 2021, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marching-forth-to-march-4th-are-the-qanon-trump-supporters-actually-doing-anything/934103/78 "2021-03-07T21:54:55Z")

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That’s where MAGA! comes in. It’s like a magic word, only more of a concept. Kind of like how calling something fake nullifies it.

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**Post date:** [March 8, 2021, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marching-forth-to-march-4th-are-the-qanon-trump-supporters-actually-doing-anything/934103/79 "2021-03-08T19:03:52Z")

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Won’t someone think of the Muffins?!!

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**Post date:** [March 8, 2021, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marching-forth-to-march-4th-are-the-qanon-trump-supporters-actually-doing-anything/934103/80 "2021-03-08T19:42:56Z")

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> [@Hari\_Seldon](#):
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> I understand (more or less) the claim that all subsequent presidents have been illegitimate. But then what makes Trump _ **legitimate** _ ?

> [@Hari\_Seldon](#):
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> I understand (more or less) the claim that all subsequent presidents have been illegitimate. But then what makes Trump legitimate ?

Probably the same thought process which considers the election of Biden illegitimate but considers the election of Republican congresspeople on the same ballots legitimate.

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