# Marco Rubio presidential campaign discussion thread. **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [April 14, 2015, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marco-rubio-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/717685 "2015-04-14T21:41:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2016, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marco-rubio-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/717685/181 "2016-01-12T21:55:21Z")
Cubans aren’t Mexicans, true. Cuban votes actually matter since they are concentrated in a swing state with a lot of electoral votes. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2016, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marco-rubio-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/717685/182 "2016-01-12T22:08:43Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > Cubans aren’t Mexicans, true. Cuban votes actually matter since they are concentrated in a swing state with a lot of electoral votes. And I thought it was said before that their vote does not matter. My Sub-Etha Sens-O-Matic tells me that once again a point of \*\*adaher \*\*was sent through time an space and the universe that has it for him is likely to change the past to embarrass him. Sure enough 🙂 : [http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/18/upshot/why-the-cuba-issue-no-longer-cuts-against-democrats-in-florida.html?\_r=0](http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/18/upshot/why-the-cuba-issue-no-longer-cuts-against-democrats-in-florida.html?_r=0) > [@](#): > > All of that changed over the past 10 years. The 2013 Pew survey showed that the Republican advantage among Cuban-Americans had dwindled to 3 percentage points, 47 to 44. The Florida exit poll in 2012 showed that Mr. Obama won the Cuban-American vote, 49 to 47 percent. Last month, the exit polling showed that Cuban-American voters supported the Democrat Charlie Crist, 50 to 46 percent, though he lost the governor’s race. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2016, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marco-rubio-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/717685/183 "2016-01-12T22:19:34Z")
No, in Florida, Latino votes do matter. They just aren’t likely to flip any other states on their own. ---
**Author:** ![Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/f04885/32.png) [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qin_Shi_Huangdi)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2016, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marco-rubio-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/717685/184 "2016-01-24T05:02:48Z")
[Looks like our boot-wearing friend loved the Cruzin’ life as well](https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/42cvjr/something_very_interesting_some_friends_and_i/) > [@](#): > > As a quick summary: we know that the man Rubio was arrested with in 1990 was sued by Miami in 2007 for running a gay pornography studio out of one of his properties. We believe the totality of the evidence strongly implies that Rubio was engaged in sexual relations with that man in 1990, and that’s why they were arrested. ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Feldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lord_feldon/32/341_2.png) [@Lord\_Feldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Feldon)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2016, 5:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marco-rubio-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/717685/185 "2016-01-24T05:31:01Z")
Well, if being in a park with a friend who paid men to have sex with each other 17 years later doesn’t make you gay, I don’t know what does. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2016, 10:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marco-rubio-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/717685/186 "2016-01-24T10:53:15Z")
> [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](#): > > [Looks like our boot-wearing friend loved the Cruzin’ life as well](https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/42cvjr/something_very_interesting_some_friends_and_i/) I claim bragging rights! > [@2016: Political thriller come true](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2016-political-thriller-come-true/741968/1): > > Scandals surface about all the candidates: > … > But the charges all rinse off as if on Teflon. Until evidence surfaces that the Rubio love-nest was with a teenage boy. Rubio’s standings plummet. In desperation Sheldon Adelson texts Donald Trump: “Up 4 a game of golf?” The rest is history… > I’ll post Chapter Two if there’s interest… I never posted Chapter Two of _ **2016: Political thriller come true** _. What was the point? Truth is weirder than fiction. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2016, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marco-rubio-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/717685/187 "2016-01-24T15:23:34Z")
> [@Lord\_Feldon](#): > > Well, if being in a park with a friend who paid men to have sex with each other 17 years later doesn’t make you gay, I don’t know what does. See, if you attack men by suggesting they are gay or effeminate or cuckolds, you win all of the things. Who needs evidence? Evidence is for betas. ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Lowry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@Sam\_Lowry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Lowry)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2016, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marco-rubio-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/717685/188 "2016-01-24T16:57:06Z")
> [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](#): > > [Looks like our boot-wearing friend loved the Cruzin’ life as well](https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/42cvjr/something_very_interesting_some_friends_and_i/) Your link is to reddit board titled [The\_Donald](https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/), and the post is someone saying how he and another friend from a Trump fansite researched this. I’d say it’s not impossible that Rubio has had gay trysts, but I wouldn’t say the evidence definitely leads to that being proven. [Rubio is opposed to gay rights](http://www.hrc.org/2016RepublicanFacts/marco-rubio), even if maybe not as vehemently as others, so if there was evidence that he had been having secret gay flings, I think that would be relevant. But I don’t think this evidence is going to convince anyone. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2016, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marco-rubio-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/717685/189 "2016-01-24T17:27:55Z")
The fact we can go 12 days between post #183 and #184 says an awful lot about Rubio’s sinking chances. All the more true when the revival by **Qin Shi Huangdi** is to report on a potentially disqualifying scandal. ---
**Author:** ![Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/f04885/32.png) [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qin_Shi_Huangdi)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2016, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marco-rubio-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/717685/190 "2016-01-24T22:17:39Z")
> [@Sam\_Lowry](#): > > Your link is to reddit board titled [The\_Donald](https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/), and the post is someone saying how he and another friend from a Trump fansite researched this. I’d say it’s not impossible that Rubio has had gay trysts, but I wouldn’t say the evidence definitely leads to that being proven. I probably should have noted this when I first posted the revelations, but I’m a member of the supposed “Trump fansite” which is actually a US politics discussion forum that is a spinoff of [Dave Leip’s Election Atlas Forum](http://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php) and thus is in no sense a “Trumpist” forum. If anything it is a fairly left-leaning forum. I can fully vouch for the persons who did this fantastic detective job and hope the major media outlets follow up on it. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2016, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marco-rubio-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/717685/191 "2016-01-24T23:06:35Z")
> [@jsgoddess](#): > > See, if you attack men by suggesting they are gay or effeminate or cuckolds, you win all of the things. Who needs evidence? Evidence is for betas. For an (apparent) woman you have a masterful grasp of intra-male politics at its most basic. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2016, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marco-rubio-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/717685/192 "2016-01-25T05:24:23Z")
Li’l Marco says the recent snowstorm was a [good thing](http://www.occupydemocrats.com/marco-rubio-deadly-snowstorm-is-awesome-because-it-delays-obamas-agenda/), because federal employees couldn’t get to work to create new regulations, and Obama’s pen is frozen so he can’t issue any new executive orders. Despicable ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2016, 8:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marco-rubio-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/717685/193 "2016-01-25T08:29:35Z")
Well, sure, but he’s **moderately** despicable. He can reach his gnarled claw across the aisle to compromise Democrats and bring them to a contemptible consensus, so that corrupt bargains can be made, and we will finally see things getting done. Bad things for the most part, but still…_things_! Getting done! ---
**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2016, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marco-rubio-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/717685/194 "2016-01-25T14:12:13Z")
> [@Lord\_Feldon](#): > > Well, if being in a park with a friend who paid men to have sex with each other 17 years later doesn’t make you gay, I don’t know what does. I think it was actually “being in a park with a friend who \* owned the company that was the landlord\* of someone who paid men to have sex with eachother 17 years later”. The court summary just says Rubio’s friends company allowed a separate business to operate on one of their properties. Plus the reedit post fails to mention that according to Rubio’s friend, their primary Highschool activity was “looking for pretty girls”, an activity which doesn’t exactly scream “flaming homosexual”. I’d say the evidence for Rubio’s friend being gay is nil, never mind the weird attempt to prove Rubio is gay by some weird “six degrees of separation” type game. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2016, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marco-rubio-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/717685/195 "2016-01-25T14:23:46Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > The fact we can go 12 days between post #183 and #184 says an awful lot about Rubio’s sinking chances. Well, not really. Rubio’s just not making news. And why should he? He’s the leader among the “sane” candidates. All he has to do is not fuck up too badly before the primaries so he can start amalgamating the other establishment candidates’ votes when they inevitably drop out. ---
**Author:** ![SmartAlecCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/67e7ee/32.png) [@SmartAlecCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmartAlecCat)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2016, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marco-rubio-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/717685/196 "2016-01-25T16:02:58Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Well, not really. Rubio’s just not making news. And why should he? He’s the leader among the “sane” candidates. All he has to do is not fuck up too badly before the primaries so he can start amalgamating the other establishment candidates’ votes when they inevitably drop out. Are they going to pull out all the quotes from people saying a single term senator doesn’t have enough experience to be president? ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2016, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marco-rubio-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/717685/197 "2016-01-25T16:13:30Z")
Probably, though Rubio has served two more years of his Senate term than Obama did, and spent more time in the state legislature (and was Speaker of the Florida House for two years). ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2016, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marco-rubio-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/717685/198 "2016-01-25T19:29:08Z")
> [@SmartAlecCat](#): > > Are they going to pull out all the quotes from people saying a single term senator doesn’t have enough experience to be president? Well, I’ve already admitted that he’s not ready to be President. I think most Republicans feel that way, but winning comes first and we figure he’s smart enough to not do to the Republicans what Obama did to the Democrats. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2016, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marco-rubio-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/717685/199 "2016-01-25T19:52:53Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > Well, I’ve already admitted that he’s not ready to be President. I think most Republicans feel that way, but winning comes first and we figure he’s smart enough to not do to the Republicans what Obama did to the Democrats. He’s not smart enough to try to get very important Republican priorities passed legislatively? ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2016, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marco-rubio-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/717685/200 "2016-01-26T01:06:27Z")
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