# Margaret Thatcher has passed-away.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/margaret-thatcher-has-passed-away/655143>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [April 8, 2013, 12:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/margaret-thatcher-has-passed-away/655143 "2013-04-08T12:01:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 18\
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**Author:** ![Gleena](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b3f665/32.png) [@Gleena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gleena)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2013, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/margaret-thatcher-has-passed-away/655143/61 "2013-04-09T01:17:34Z")

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> [@don\_t\_ask](#):
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> And I can’t be the only one. All the English speaking democracies at the time were run by governments with the same agenda, look after business and stuff the workers. Britain had Thatcher, the US had Reagan and Australia had Hawke/Keating. They all started the trend toward the transfer of capital to business at the expense of the average worker. However the US and Aussie leaders have somehow escaped the public enmity.

Hawke/Keating = stuff the workers?

Bwa?

Hawkie?

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**Author:** ![Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/f04885/32.png) [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qin_Shi_Huangdi)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2013, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/margaret-thatcher-has-passed-away/655143/62 "2013-04-09T02:36:07Z")

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RIP, Lady Thatcher. ☹

Rather unsurprised at the usual hate-on here and even at first glance it clearly exceeds that for Hugo Chavez.

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**Author:** ![An\_Gadai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@An\_Gadai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/An_Gadai)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2013, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/margaret-thatcher-has-passed-away/655143/63 "2013-04-09T02:40:48Z")

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> [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](#):
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> RIP, Lady Thatcher. ☹
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> Rather unsurprised at the usual hate-on here and even at first glance it clearly exceeds that for Hugo Chavez.

Not exactly a huge amount of Venezuelan dopers.

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**Author:** ![Claverhouse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/13edae/32.png) [@Claverhouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Claverhouse)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2013, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/margaret-thatcher-has-passed-away/655143/64 "2013-04-09T02:44:58Z")

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Damn, post 60:

> [@Claverhouse](#):
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> Callaghan and Wilson, labour, both took life peerages: Heath and Blair, conservative, refused all peerages.

For Blair, read Major.  
Bur it was an easy mistake to make.

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**Author:** ![Precambrianmollusc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/precambrianmollusc/32/63_2.png) [@Precambrianmollusc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Precambrianmollusc)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2013, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/margaret-thatcher-has-passed-away/655143/65 "2013-04-09T02:51:16Z")

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> [@Claverhouse](#):
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> Callaghan and Wilson, labour, both took life peerages: Heath and Blair, conservative, refused all peerages.  
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I know Blair wasn’t the most left wing PM we have ever had, but conservative?  
John Major a Conservative PM turned down a peerage.  
ETA well while I was typing you corrected it so never mind

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**Author:** ![Lord\_Feldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lord_feldon/32/341_2.png) [@Lord\_Feldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Feldon)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2013, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/margaret-thatcher-has-passed-away/655143/66 "2013-04-09T04:50:25Z")

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> [@alphaboi867](#):
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> Churchill was offered a Dukedom

But only after the palace received assurances that he would turn it down.

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**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2013, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/margaret-thatcher-has-passed-away/655143/67 "2013-04-09T05:01:13Z")

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> [@alphaboi867](#):
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> Yet her husband, Dennis Thatcher, was created a [baronet](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thatcher_baronets), the last hereditary title for a non-royal. It did pass to Mark.

Denis Thatcher would have been given a peerage years before he was created a Baronet, if his wife had not been PM.

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**Author:** ![Cazzle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cazzle/32/75_2.png) [@Cazzle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cazzle)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2013, 7:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/margaret-thatcher-has-passed-away/655143/68 "2013-04-09T07:04:08Z")

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> [@Gleena](#):
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> Hawke/Keating = stuff the workers?
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> Bwa?
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> Hawkie?

Yeah, I didn’t get that either. Aren’t the Labor Party general pro-working class? I’m a bit young to have been politically aware at the time, but Howard is the one I remember introducing Work Choices and cracking down on the unions.

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**Author:** ![Colophon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f05b48/32.png) [@Colophon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colophon)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2013, 11:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/margaret-thatcher-has-passed-away/655143/69 "2013-04-09T11:38:42Z")

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A bit of a cock-up at [a Taiwanese TV station](http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/margaret-thatcher/9981432/Margaret-Thatcher-dies-Taiwan-TV-apologises-for-Queen-mix-up.html), which illustrated the story with footage of Queen Elizabeth II.

Well, those westerners all look alike 😉

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**Author:** ![Cicero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cicero/32/3594_2.png) [@Cicero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cicero)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2013, 11:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/margaret-thatcher-has-passed-away/655143/70 "2013-04-09T11:43:03Z")

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> [@Eliahna](#):
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> Yeah, I didn’t get that either. Aren’t the Labor Party general pro-working class? I’m a bit young to have been politically aware at the time, but Howard is the one I remember introducing Work Choices and cracking down on the unions.

Yeah. Hawke and the pilots strike. The airforce was used and overseas pilots hired.

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**Author:** ![Freddy\_the\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a587f6/32.png) [@Freddy\_the\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freddy_the_Pig)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2013, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/margaret-thatcher-has-passed-away/655143/71 "2013-04-09T18:00:25Z")

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> [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](#):
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> Rather unsurprised at the usual hate-on here and even at first glance it clearly exceeds that for Hugo Chavez.

Hatred from the SDMB Far Left is the best possible tribute she could receive.

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**Author:** ![Mona\_Lisa\_Simpson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ce7236/32.png) [@Mona\_Lisa\_Simpson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mona_Lisa_Simpson)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/margaret-thatcher-has-passed-away/655143/72 "2013-04-10T03:49:26Z")

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My hubby and I had considered going to see Bill Bragg on Friday night, and the odd thing about Margaret Thatcher’s death was it made me wish I had tickets to wherever Billy was playing Monday night.

He was in Calgary. [Article on his show here.](http://blogs.calgaryherald.com/2013/04/09/billy-bragg-says-goodbye-to-margaret-thatcher-in-calgary-canada/)

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2013, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/margaret-thatcher-has-passed-away/655143/73 "2013-04-11T00:33:30Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> And to prevent their possible return to Commons? 😉

No, peers can sit in the Commons now.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2013, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/margaret-thatcher-has-passed-away/655143/74 "2013-04-11T00:34:34Z")

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> [@alphaboi867](#):
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> Traditionally retired PMs were created Earls (Churchill was offered a Dukedom) . . .

Why didn’t he take it?

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2013, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/margaret-thatcher-has-passed-away/655143/75 "2013-04-11T00:35:37Z")

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> [@Freddy\_the\_Pig](#):
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> Hatred from the SDMB Far Left is the best possible tribute she could receive.

No, better is hatred from the **British** left – and center – and moderate right – which she seems to getting in plenty, now.

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**Author:** ![Lord\_Feldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lord_feldon/32/341_2.png) [@Lord\_Feldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Feldon)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2013, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/margaret-thatcher-has-passed-away/655143/76 "2013-04-11T01:12:19Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> Why didn’t he take it?

He didn’t want to kill his son’s political career, although by 1955 it was pretty much over. He also wanted to keep his own seat in the Commons (he didn’t retire until 1964) and wanted to die as Winston Churchill.

He said afterwards that the Queen (who only asked because she knew he would say no) had been so nice to offer it to him that he almost accepted purely out of respect for her.

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**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2013, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/margaret-thatcher-has-passed-away/655143/77 "2013-04-11T18:50:05Z")

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It looks like somebody’s not getting an invite to the funeral. 😉 Grant I don’t understand why la Señora Fernandez De Kirchner would want to attend in the first place.

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**Author:** ![Boulter\_s\_Canary](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e79b87/32.png) [@Boulter\_s\_Canary](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boulter_s_Canary)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2013, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/margaret-thatcher-has-passed-away/655143/78 "2013-04-12T14:53:42Z")

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> [@Precambrianmollusc](#):
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> I know Blair wasn’t the most left wing PM we have ever had, but conservative?

Well, he sure as shit wasn’t Labour.

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