# Maria & Arnold calling it quits after 25 years **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 10, 2011, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/maria-arnold-calling-it-quits-after-25-years/581396 "2011-05-10T14:39:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![SciFiSam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/47e85d/32.png) [@SciFiSam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SciFiSam)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2011, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/maria-arnold-calling-it-quits-after-25-years/581396/121 "2011-05-21T21:27:37Z")
> [@Argent\_Towers](#): > > If you have done some reading about Arnold’s early career back in the 70s when he was getting his start working with Charles Gaines (_Pumping Iron,_ _Stay Hungry_) and was really largely unknown except in the world of bodybuilding, it’s pretty obvious that he is not the monogamous type. The picture that shines through Gaines’ writing in the book and through Arnold’s own personality in the documentary is a super-alpha male for whom an endless string of women is really just a diversion from his real love, which is himself. > > He was a celebrated playboy and sexual adventurer who enjoyed having many different experiences with many different people (including, apparently, group sex involving multiple men and women.) He was very openly sexual in a way that seems perfectly fitting with his love of displaying his body; he had no problem with attention from homosexual men, for instance, and had posed nude for gay magazines. And he truly loves women, as he spoke honestly about his very diverse and wide-ranging preference for female physical types in _Pumping Iron._ > > It’s pretty impossible to imagine this guy limiting himself to one woman and one woman only, for decades on end, if you have a clear picture of who the real Arnold Schwarzenegger actually is as a man, underneath the action-hero persona and the many pop-culture parodies. Yes, but he’s also a man who had very set life-goals in mind, all of which required a lot of self-control. Being a horndog in your younger days doesn’t necessarily mean you are one forever. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2011, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/maria-arnold-calling-it-quits-after-25-years/581396/122 "2011-05-22T01:37:47Z")
I saw Maria Shriver on Oprah’s show a few years ago and she was joking about how she had no idea how much sex would be involved in being married to Schwarzenegger. She laughingly called it “exhausting”. She also said that he didn’t need Viagra and wouldn’t allow it within five miles of the house lest someone think it was his. 😃 I thought it was pretty interesting that even after twenty or so years of marriage he still wanted “exhausting” amounts of sex from his wife. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2011, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/maria-arnold-calling-it-quits-after-25-years/581396/123 "2011-05-22T01:43:44Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > I saw Maria Shriver on Oprah’s show a few years ago and she was joking about how she had no idea how much sex would be involved in being married to Schwarzenegger. She laughingly called it “exhausting”. She also said that he didn’t need Viagra and wouldn’t allow it within five miles of the house lest someone think it was his. 😃 > > I thought it was pretty interesting that even after twenty or so years of marriage he still wanted “exhausting” amounts of sex from his wife. But we don’t know what amount _she_ considers exhausting. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2011, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/maria-arnold-calling-it-quits-after-25-years/581396/124 "2011-05-22T02:55:58Z")
[QUOTE=Starving Artist;13827587I thought it was pretty interesting that even after twenty or so years of marriage he still wanted “exhausting” amounts of sex from his wife.[/QUOTE] I dunno, _biannual_ sex with Arnold sounds pretty tiresome to me. ---
**Author:** ![LurkerInNJ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ed655f/32.png) [@LurkerInNJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LurkerInNJ)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2011, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/maria-arnold-calling-it-quits-after-25-years/581396/125 "2011-05-22T15:54:57Z")
> [@MPB\_in\_Salt\_Lake](#): > > Apparently in addition to being physically revolting, (obese and pig-ugly is actually putting it mildly, as several late-night talk show hosts have also pointed out) she is also a thief, as her ex-husband, (whom she was cheating on when she was fucking Arnold) has been paying child support for a kid that wasn’t his for the past 14 years. > > I hope the ex sues Arnold in a civil court, so he can recoup some of the money he had to pay out for the child of a man who has made 100’s of millions of dollars in his lifetime, by “acting” in awful movies, while the cuckold was scraping by on a landscapers salary. Where are you getting this financial info from? News reports have her salary at $1,200.00 a week, with Arnold fully supporting his child and being quite generous to her and her family. I’ve seen no reports where her ex was paying a penny for this child. ---
**Author:** ![MPB\_in\_Salt\_Lake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MPB\_in\_Salt\_Lake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MPB_in_Salt_Lake)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2011, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/maria-arnold-calling-it-quits-after-25-years/581396/126 "2011-05-22T16:05:25Z")
> [@LurkerInNJ](#): > > Where are you getting this financial info from? > > News reports have her salary at $1,200.00 a week, with Arnold fully supporting his child and being quite generous to her and her family. I’ve seen no reports where her ex was paying a penny for this child. That’s what was reported a few days ago, on a link from Yahoo. The ex-husband and Arnold’s mistress/maid supposedly have 4 kids together (assuming he is actually the father of all of them) and I am sure he has had to pay support for those kids, and as his name is on the birth certificate for Arnold’s kid as well, I don’t have much trouble believing that he had to pay child support for him also. If Arnold has been paying voluntary support all of this time, I suppose it is somewhat of a credit to him, but that doesn’t mean the mistress was above double-dipping and taking $$$ from her ex as well, right? It will all come out eventually; If the (financially strapped) ex husband was paying child support for the child of a former Governor, worth 100’s of millions of dollars, you can be sure that he will have dozens of Gloria Allred-types coming out of the woodwork to represent him. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2011, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/maria-arnold-calling-it-quits-after-25-years/581396/127 "2011-05-22T16:08:04Z")
> [@MPB\_in\_Salt\_Lake](#): > > That’s what was reported a few days ago, on a link from Yahoo. > > The ex-husband and Arnold’s mistress/maid supposedly have 4 kids together (assuming he is actually the father of all of them) and I am sure he has had to pay support for those kids, and as his name is on the birth certificate for Arnold’s kid as well, I don’t have much trouble believing that he had to pay child support for him also. > > If Arnold has been paying voluntary support all of this time, I suppose it is somewhat of a credit to him, but that doesn’t mean the mistress was above double-dipping and taking $$$ from her ex as well, right? In the divorce papers, she stated that there were no minor children from the marriage, so it seems unlikely that the court would have required any child support payment at all. ---
**Author:** ![MPB\_in\_Salt\_Lake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MPB\_in\_Salt\_Lake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MPB_in_Salt_Lake)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2011, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/maria-arnold-calling-it-quits-after-25-years/581396/128 "2011-05-22T16:22:54Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > In the divorce papers, she stated that there were no minor children from the marriage, so it seems unlikely that the court would have required any child support payment at all. Well, as I stated above the mistress and her ex supposedly have 4 children together, but I have no idea about how old those kids were back then. I haven’t really read too much about the details above what I have already mentioned, my whole point was that I was struck by how unattractive (putting it mildly, as the woman is frankly repulsive in regards to physical appearance, and most of the entire world seems to agree with me on that point) the mistress turned out to be. I would have expected a young, blonde Aryan uber-hottie, or maybe a hardbody UCLA coed type, or at least someone who doesn’t look like she has been living off of the $5.99 all-you-can-eat China Gardens buffet for the past decade. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2011, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/maria-arnold-calling-it-quits-after-25-years/581396/129 "2011-05-22T16:35:39Z")
> [@MPB\_in\_Salt\_Lake](#): > > The ex-husband and Arnold’s mistress/maid supposedly have 4 kids together (assuming he is actually the father of all of them) Where are you getting this “four kids together”? Baena separated from her husband within a month of giving birth to Schwarzenegger’s child. I haven’t read anything that suggests that she has any other children, certainly no others fathered by Schwarzenegger. ---
**Author:** ![MPB\_in\_Salt\_Lake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MPB\_in\_Salt\_Lake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MPB_in_Salt_Lake)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2011, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/maria-arnold-calling-it-quits-after-25-years/581396/130 "2011-05-22T16:42:01Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > I haven’t read anything that suggests that she has any other children… Well, I did. Apparently, one of us read something that is incorrect, because as I understand it, she has 5 kids total, including her child with Arnold Schwarzenegger. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2011, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/maria-arnold-calling-it-quits-after-25-years/581396/131 "2011-05-22T17:05:42Z")
[This](http://www.etonline.com/news/110872_Mildred_Baena_s_Divorce_Papers_No_Minor_Children/) ET page has a link to the divorce papers. After nine years of marriage, she declared that there are no minor children from the marriage. So how exactly is she robbing her ex-husband of child support money? Schwarzenegger and Maria Shriver have four children together. Plus the “love child” with Baena that makes five. So Schwarzenegger has five children, one of which is Baena’s. Maybe that’s where you’re getting the five figure. ---
**Author:** ![MPB\_in\_Salt\_Lake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MPB\_in\_Salt\_Lake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MPB_in_Salt_Lake)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2011, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/maria-arnold-calling-it-quits-after-25-years/581396/132 "2011-05-22T17:29:26Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > Schwarzenegger and Maria Shriver have four children together. Plus the “love child” with Baena that makes five. So Schwarzenegger has five children, one of which is Baena’s. Maybe that’s where you’re getting the five figure. I suppose that is possible, but I am almost certain that I read (or saw on a TV show like Inside Edition, which God help me, I do watch on occasion, even though I feel like I am a depraved, voyeuristic sub-human afterwards) that Baena and her ex-husband have 4 children together, which with Arnold’s son would make 5 kids for Baena total. I may well have misunderstood, and apparently (assuming the link you posted is correct) the ex was never on the hook for child support for Arnold’s son. That is a lone bright spot in a story filled with tawdry, depressing revelations. I never knew too much about Maria Shriver, but she seems to have tried to do good things with her family name, supporting some quality causes, and it’s too bad she chose an arrogant, self-centered, immoral jackass to marry. She deserves better… (Finally, I have never thought too much of A.S., and the last movie that I remember seeing him in was Terminator 2, back when I was 15 or 16 years old. I don’t imagine I will be seeing any of his new stuff anytime soon) ---
**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2011, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/maria-arnold-calling-it-quits-after-25-years/581396/133 "2011-05-23T03:54:35Z")
The place I heard that said she had three more kids was Jay Leno making a joke, and showed a picture with the faces of Sylvester Stallone, Steven Seagall, and someone else. ---
**Author:** ![devilsknew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4da419/32.png) [@devilsknew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/devilsknew)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2011, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/maria-arnold-calling-it-quits-after-25-years/581396/134 "2011-05-23T04:56:16Z")
> [@Irishman](#): > > That was the obvious thing that jumped out at me. At first I was wondering just how kinky she had to be to balance out Maria, but hearing about how unhappy they have been for years and the underlying issues, I guess she just had to be willing and available. Arnold’s “hired help” reminds me an awfully lot of Octo Mom in generic botox and plastic surgery looks. Or maybe she just looks like Natalie. But this reminds me of a comedian I saw recently on CC that was riffing a bit about how “important and busy men” choose pussy that is “available”… “ready, willing, and in the next room” over any aesthetic quality. His joke was about Lewinski and Clinton, but it applies equally here. ---
**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2011, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/maria-arnold-calling-it-quits-after-25-years/581396/135 "2011-05-23T14:37:03Z")
> [@devilsknew](#): > > Arnold’s “hired help” reminds me an awfully lot of Octo Mom in generic botox and plastic surgery looks. Or maybe she just looks like Natalie. But this reminds me of a comedian I saw recently on CC that was riffing a bit about how “important and busy men” choose pussy that is “available”… “ready, willing, and in the next room” over any aesthetic quality. His joke was about Lewinski and Clinton, but it applies equally here. This. Plus a lot of guys have a thing for the maid fantasy, even if said maid isn’t all that attractive. And, while she may not be super hot, or even mildly hot, I wouldn’t classify her as horrendous looking. She’s just an ordinary, dowdy-looking, middle-aged woman. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/maria-arnold-calling-it-quits-after-25-years/581396.md?page=6)