# Marilyn Monroe has a threeway sex tape? **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [March 4, 2014, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marilyn-monroe-has-a-threeway-sex-tape/682835 "2014-03-04T17:31:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![nevadaexile](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/eb8c5e/32.png) [@nevadaexile](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nevadaexile)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2014, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marilyn-monroe-has-a-threeway-sex-tape/682835/41 "2014-03-10T16:14:43Z")
Wouldn’t this have been a “sex film?” And who edited this thing? ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2014, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marilyn-monroe-has-a-threeway-sex-tape/682835/42 "2014-03-10T17:02:48Z")
> [@Quercus](#): > > Yeah, but Crane was using mid- 1970’s cutting-edge consumer equipment, and the Winters show was using mid 1950’s cutting-edge professional studio equipment. > > I don’t think either of these would have been available in a 1961 Presidential bedroom. Yes. But you know what would have been available? A [Model 414 PD Bell & Howell Zoomatic Director Series Camera.](http://www.collectorsweekly.com/stories/49294-bell-and-howell-zoomatic-8mm-directors-s) Handheld. And you know how I know that this particular model [was handheld, and worked, and existed at the time?](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zapruder_film) ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2014, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marilyn-monroe-has-a-threeway-sex-tape/682835/43 "2014-03-10T22:02:28Z")
There is, it seems, a [Johnny Carson](http://www.tmz.com/2014/03/08/johnny-carson-sex-tape/) sex tape out there. ---
**Author:** ![NetTrekker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nettrekker/32/2909_2.png) [@NetTrekker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NetTrekker)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2014, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marilyn-monroe-has-a-threeway-sex-tape/682835/44 "2014-03-11T03:36:53Z")
> [@RealityChuck](#): > > Video cameras existed, but they were big, expensive mothers (The image tube cost over $1000 alone) that were not owned by private individuals and which required an operator and a ton of lightning. Yes, they required a super high voltage power source as I understand it and worked best during heavy thunderstorms… 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Zebra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c0e974/32.png) [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2014, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marilyn-monroe-has-a-threeway-sex-tape/682835/45 "2014-03-11T03:43:40Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > Yes. But you know what would have been available? > > A [Model 414 PD Bell & Howell Zoomatic Director Series Camera.](http://www.collectorsweekly.com/stories/49294-bell-and-howell-zoomatic-8mm-directors-s) Handheld. > > And you know how I know that this particular model [was handheld, and worked, and existed at the time?](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zapruder_film) That is a film camera. Now I think if the Pres wanted some sort of 'cutting edge equipment, he could have gotten it and in that time period, ‘no questions asked’. The thing with film, is that you have to get it developed in a lab and some lab workers eyes will see what you have. Video tape has no lab. Now what camera did Bob Crane use? ---
**Author:** ![bengangmo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/50afbb/32.png) [@bengangmo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bengangmo)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2014, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marilyn-monroe-has-a-threeway-sex-tape/682835/46 "2014-03-11T03:48:34Z")
I don’t know about the tape, whether real, possibly real, believable, provable or not. But some general thoughts 1. Two brothers spit roasting? Totally reasonable and believable to me, I personally know people that I would believe this of. 2. Presidential resources being what they are, and given the financial resources of the Kennedys, I’d imagine that if he wanted something that was on the very cutting edge of the market - he’d be able to get it. 3. We can already see that there were hand held live action recording devices available at the time So I wouldn’t discount the story based on logistics. ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2014, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marilyn-monroe-has-a-threeway-sex-tape/682835/47 "2014-03-11T04:03:33Z")
> [@Kimballkid](#): > > Did they do it on a grassy knoll? Grassy HOLE. Girls back then were hirsute, duh. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2014, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marilyn-monroe-has-a-threeway-sex-tape/682835/48 "2014-03-11T14:51:09Z")
> [@Zebra](#): > > That is a film camera. > > Now I think if the Pres wanted some sort of 'cutting edge equipment, he could have gotten it and in that time period, ‘no questions asked’. > > The thing with film, is that you have to get it developed in a lab and some lab workers eyes will see what you have. Video tape has no lab. Now what camera did Bob Crane use? Crane used a variety of videotape cameras. But the point I was raising was in rebuttal to this thought: > [@](#): > > How exactly would anyone have recorded it? > > The question assumes a camcorder, which wasn’t invented until all parties involved were dead. The very concept of making a sex tape didn’t occur to anyone until camcorders became available. The question assumes a _handheld_ video capture device…which the Model 414 PD Bell & Howell Zoomatic Director Series camera was. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marilyn-monroe-has-a-threeway-sex-tape/682835.md?page=2)