# Marines to deploy to LA **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [June 9, 2025, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marines-to-deploy-to-la/1019395 "2025-06-09T22:53:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2025, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marines-to-deploy-to-la/1019395/41 "2025-06-11T05:01:30Z")
Because it’s not your job to look into rumors that support violence on the part of federal soldiers, right? It’s just your job repeat them whenever you can. ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2025, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marines-to-deploy-to-la/1019395/42 "2025-06-11T05:08:18Z")
> [@TGC](#): > > I too wonder why LAPD is not aggressively containing the violence… Is this LAPD do nothing? > **[https://preview.redd.it/l5lqgs24q46f1.jpg?width=960&crop=smart&auto=webp...](https://preview.redd.it/l5lqgs24q46f1.jpg?width=960&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=679db397ec076b8c2db8d2b555e2aa6c749b0226)** > **[https://preview.redd.it/bh75mr24q46f1.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp...](https://preview.redd.it/bh75mr24q46f1.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=a584347d25ca73528ff60f933a79a5af31f673d9)** > **[https://preview.redd.it/sbvirr24q46f1.jpg?width=960&crop=smart&auto=webp...](https://preview.redd.it/sbvirr24q46f1.jpg?width=960&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=b538513d661486efbfd2fae8ccc2db8760861b86)** [![](https://media.cnn.com/api/v1/images/stellar/prod/gettyimages-2218860076-copy.jpg?c=original&q=w_1280,c_fill) ](https://media.cnn.com/api/v1/images/stellar/prod/gettyimages-2218860076-copy.jpg?c=original&q=w_1280,c_fill) [![](https://media.cnn.com/api/v1/images/stellar/prod/gall01-2025-06-10t013424z-601196579-rc28zea2llr3-rtrmadp-3-usa-migration-protest-los-angeles-jpg.jpg?c=original&q=w_1280,c_fill) ](https://media.cnn.com/api/v1/images/stellar/prod/gall01-2025-06-10t013424z-601196579-rc28zea2llr3-rtrmadp-3-usa-migration-protest-los-angeles-jpg.jpg?c=original&q=w_1280,c_fill) ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2025, 5:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marines-to-deploy-to-la/1019395/43 "2025-06-11T05:13:30Z")
I heard more than one reporter comment that there appeared to be more cops on the street today than protestors. The view from the news copters certainly seemed to confirm that. They had time to arrest people for merely sitting in the street, so it’s not like they were too busy responding to rampaging vandals. ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2025, 5:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marines-to-deploy-to-la/1019395/44 "2025-06-11T05:57:21Z")
> **[Parts of Los Angeles begin cleaning up after protests lead to looting,...](https://www.cbsnews.com/losangeles/news/downtown-la-protests-looting-burned-cars-vandalism-arrests/)** > > Friday's immigration operations which took place across Los Angeles, primarily in the Westlake District, downtown, and South L.A., led to protests over the weekend, resulting in 42 arrests. Those arrested are facing charges ranging from assault on an... > _Three businesses along Broadway between 3rd and 7th streets were damaged by looters, two athletic footwear stores and a T-Mobile storefront. The Jordan Studio 23 and the Adidas stores both suffered shattered front door glass when the Broadway shops were burglarized. On Monday morning, police stood guard at the damaged businesses._ The protests against ICE were up by the Federal Courthouse and the Robert Young Federal Building, west of Los Angeles Blvd and north of E. Temple., three blocks east and five blocks north, nearly a mile away. It seems pretty unlikely that demonstrators were taking half an hour to wander over and do some self-serve shoe shopping mid-protest. Stranger ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2025, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marines-to-deploy-to-la/1019395/45 "2025-06-11T20:12:52Z")
> [@Whack-a-Mole](#): > > Is this LAPD do nothing? Good cites, thank you. Before trump sent in troops, the violence was minimal. Mind you yes, a couple of robot cars were burned by some criminal morons- and a lot of litter and graffiti- which lats two are minor misdemeanors. Some blocking of traffic- good for a citation. > [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#): > > It seems pretty unlikely that demonstrators were taking half an hour to wander over and do some self-serve shoe shopping mid-protest. Yeah, but there are criminals who take advantage of civil unrest- even peaceful protests- to do some looting. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2025, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marines-to-deploy-to-la/1019395/46 "2025-06-11T20:38:03Z")
> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#): > > the likes of Stephen Miller and Steve Bannon I’ll thank you not to use their names; it scares the horses. ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2025, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marines-to-deploy-to-la/1019395/47 "2025-06-11T20:57:01Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > I’ll thank you not to use their names; it scares the horses. [![](https://media.tenor.com/3JrqSvDDnZQAAAAC/igor-yes-master.gif) ](https://media.tenor.com/3JrqSvDDnZQAAAAC/igor-yes-master.gif) Stranger ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2025, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marines-to-deploy-to-la/1019395/48 "2025-06-12T00:22:15Z")
[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/zJ7Dfca4_y8/maxresdefault.jpg "Trump Hijacks National Guard in LA: Legal?") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJ7Dfca4_y8) Good vid by Legal Eagle. ---
**Author:** ![redpoint5](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@redpoint5](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/redpoint5)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2025, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marines-to-deploy-to-la/1019395/49 "2025-06-12T04:10:58Z")
> [@Cervaise](#): > > We know absolutely no such thing at all. Speak for yourself. I know that law does not allow impediment of traffic. > [@Spoons](#): > > I think that it is safe to say that 100% of the people in the street are not lawless, requiring order to be forcibly applied. You shouldn’t feel so safe holding such a false belief. Try standing in the middle of the nearest street and refuse to move and report back what the law had to say about that. > [@Tamerlane](#): > > Protests in of themselves are not lawlessness, such demonstrations are constitutionally protected. Did part of my comment that standing in the middle of the street throwing molotov cocktails sounded like a dismissal of the lawful right to protest? > [@Tamerlane](#): > > I’m not getting into the weeds of rioters vs protesters and the timeline here and who provoked who and who was right or not. Not having a moral compass or a spine is not virtue. > [@bobot](#): > > The fuck are you talking about? > This is how Trump gets away with everything. Don’t allow that. I was very clear what I was talking about, and I made no mention of Trump. If you have a specific question I’ll help you to understand. > [@Wesley\_Clark](#): > > From these people’s perspectives, they are resisting fascism and resisting an attempt to create an abusive authoritarian state for anyone who isn’t a white Trump supporter You’ve unlocked the bonus understanding I snuck into the comments. If someone thinks an election is stolen, then they are morally obligated to “stop the steal”. People might believe any anything including the earth is flat, but lawful behavior is expected, else repercussions. I’ll reiterate that the handful of people that might have had sympathy for their perspective went out the window when the violence and lawlessness made people miss their kids recital, and caused them to pay for all the theft and destruction (because government and companies only have your money, and nobody else’s). That behavior is morally, strategically, and individually idiotic. Only the most ideologically possessed individuals would begin to slightly support that behavior, because it fails on absolutely every front. ---
**Author:** ![redpoint5](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@redpoint5](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/redpoint5)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2025, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marines-to-deploy-to-la/1019395/50 "2025-06-12T04:18:12Z")
> [@thorny\_locust](#): > > Might be a good idea to do so. I like myself, so no. History tends to suss out the important facts. Whatever is being pushed by so-called news today isn’t likely to be remembered tomorrow, next week, next month, or imprinted into important history. Better to focus on my sphere of influence and let others to their fear-mongering entertainment. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2025, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marines-to-deploy-to-la/1019395/51 "2025-06-12T04:34:58Z")
> [@redpoint5](#): > > Whatever is being pushed by so-called news today isn’t likely to be remembered tomorrow, next week, next month, or imprinted into important history. Ah, so you’re part of the “fake news” crowd. ---
**Author:** ![redpoint5](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@redpoint5](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/redpoint5)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2025, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marines-to-deploy-to-la/1019395/52 "2025-06-12T04:38:33Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > Ah, so you’re part of the “fake news” crowd. No, as I stated, I don’t follow so-called “news” because I don’t desire the entertainment or emotional manipulation. ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2025, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marines-to-deploy-to-la/1019395/53 "2025-06-12T04:48:51Z")
> [@redpoint5](#): > > > [@Tamerlane](#): > > > > I’m not getting into the weeds of rioters vs protesters and the timeline here and who provoked who and who was right or not. > > Not having a moral compass or a spine is not virtue. **Moderating:** While it may not have been your intent, this response is very easily read as an insult to the poster quoted. As a reminder, attack the post, not the poster. At this time, you are receiving the benefit of the doubt that it was directed at those you characterize as deliberate lawbreakers, but let’s avoid this ambiguity going forward. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2025, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marines-to-deploy-to-la/1019395/54 "2025-06-12T05:05:45Z")
> [@redpoint5](#): > > I don’t follow so-called “news” because I don’t desire the entertainment or emotional manipulation. Where do you get your information, out of curiosity? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2025, 6:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marines-to-deploy-to-la/1019395/55 "2025-06-12T06:08:46Z")
Do you just guess blindly at what’s going on, or do you actually have news sources? ---
**Author:** ![redpoint5](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@redpoint5](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/redpoint5)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2025, 6:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marines-to-deploy-to-la/1019395/56 "2025-06-12T06:11:43Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > Where do you get your information, out of curiosity? Thank you for asking. My nature is to question authority. It’s an inescapable proclivity of mine. While I acknowledge the need for authority, my personality seeks to test it to the limits, to either prove or disprove the quality. At age 16, I interned with state government in IT. The local newspaper wrote an article about it and snapped a photo. The photo showed my boss pointing at a computer screen with me observing what she was pointing at, and the caption read something like “mentoring youth to build career skills”. My boss was asking me what something did, and I was giving her an explanation. I didn’t know it then, but had been introduced to what is now known as Gell-Mann Amnesia- _The Gell-Mann Amnesia effect is a cognitive bias where individuals critically assess media reports in a domain they are knowledgeable about, yet continue to trust reporting in other areas despite recognizing similar potential inaccuracies._ My parents would watch local news, and I’d run a comedy satire exposing the nearly constant absurdity or “cat stuck in tree” non-news. Still I had a level of respect for the national news broadcasts. Then Dan Rather was dismissed from CBS for not performing due diligence on a story he aired. Somewhere around there is when I stopped watching “news” and TV in general (the internet age displaced TV watching then, and I never had cable or other paid TV service). I mostly didn’t hear about unimportant day to day junk that’s in the news. My friends who are Democrats would express anxiety that Trump might be POTUS, and I would remark “that reality TV guy, there’s no chance”. In 2016 I started listening to podcasts, and unfortunately ran into an increasing amount of stupid “news”; the stuff organizations that profit on clicks think will generate the most clicks, mostly by triggering primal outrage, aided by outright deception and lies. Right away there was the “Overfeeding Koi hoax”, and the “Fine People hoax” and the “Drink Bleach hoax”, and the “Russia Hoax”, and another “Russia Hoax”, and on and on. There’s gobs of detestable things about that person to report on, but apparently reality isn’t enough to talk about. I’m sure there’s examples of fake news about the other political color, but those aren’t as apparent to me. Incontinence comes to mind, and I don’t appreciate that “news” either, but it is a more benign accusation, even if mean (I wouldn’t point and laugh at my incontinent senile grandpa, because I’m not a jerk). … but to finally answer your question, I mostly learn of current topics (so-called news) from a couple of left-leaning forums I’m active on. I gravitate toward liberally minded communities because that is where creativity is generally cultivated. I listen to Berry Weiss - Honestly podcast, Sam Harris, Dark Horse, certain NPR programs, Jordan Peterson, Peter Boghossian, Dan Carlin, Triggernometry, Andrew Klavan… mostly liberally-minded folk. I listen to people who challenge my conception of things with well-reasoned thought. I’m uninterested in listening to someone I’ll only agree with, who only present mental frames I’ve already considered. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2025, 12:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marines-to-deploy-to-la/1019395/57 "2025-06-12T12:23:16Z")
> [@redpoint5](#): > > My nature is to question authority. Do you question the openly illegal actions of ICE and other law enforcement authorities? Or is obstruction of traffic your primary concern? > [@redpoint5](#): > > Right away there was the “Overfeeding Koi hoax”, and the “Fine People hoax” and the “Drink Bleach hoax”, and the “Russia Hoax”, and another “Russia Hoax”, and on and on. There’s gobs of detestable things about that person to report on, but apparently reality isn’t enough to talk about. Very few of those things were actually “hoaxes” (although what Trump talked about was injecting disinfectants rather than literally drinking bleach). In fact the phrase “Russia hoax” is and has always been a much bigger lie than whatever the user of it claimed to be debunking. ---
**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2025, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marines-to-deploy-to-la/1019395/58 "2025-06-12T12:58:35Z")
> [@redpoint5](#): > > You’ve unlocked the bonus understanding I snuck into the comments. If someone thinks an election is stolen, then they are morally obligated to “stop the steal”. > > People might believe any anything including the earth is flat, but lawful behavior is expected, else repercussions. I’ll reiterate that the handful of people that might have had sympathy for their perspective went out the window when the violence and lawlessness made people miss their kids recital, and caused them to pay for all the theft and destruction (because government and companies only have your money, and nobody else’s). That behavior is morally, strategically, and individually idiotic. Only the most ideologically possessed individuals would begin to slightly support that behavior, because it fails on absolutely every front. Stop the steal was an attempt to violently overthrow a democracy and establish a white nationalist autocracy under the guise of pretending to care about election security. Its not the same thing. Lawful behavior is expected, except in exigent circumstances. Abolitionists broke the law. Civil rights activists broke the law. First wave feminists broke the law. Labor union activists broke the law. The law is written by the people with power, largely to serve the interests of the people in power, and is not some code handed down by an almighty, unquestionable deity. ---
**Author:** ![Kropotkin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kropotkin/32/18045_2.png) [@Kropotkin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kropotkin)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2025, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marines-to-deploy-to-la/1019395/59 "2025-06-12T13:05:48Z")
Thank you for this important post. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2025, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marines-to-deploy-to-la/1019395/60 "2025-06-12T13:31:32Z")
> [@redpoint5](#): > > You’ve unlocked the bonus understanding I snuck into the comments. If someone thinks an election is stolen, then they are morally obligated to “stop the steal”. If I think a bank owes me money, I guess I am morally obligated to take the money back by force. All righty then. Let me look at my check registry. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marines-to-deploy-to-la/1019395.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marines-to-deploy-to-la/1019395.md?page=4)