# Marion Ravenwood killed almost as many people as Indiana Jones did **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 6, 2019, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marion-ravenwood-killed-almost-as-many-people-as-indiana-jones-did/830651 "2019-03-06T21:19:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Patch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a183cd/32.png) [@Patch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Patch)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2019, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marion-ravenwood-killed-almost-as-many-people-as-indiana-jones-did/830651/1 "2019-03-06T21:19:20Z")
Got to thinking about this the other day. Marion killed a number of people in _Raiders of the Lost Ark_. I’m used to thinking of the female lead;'s primary purpose to be saved in adventure flicks, but not in this movie. Let’s do the count. This is just going off YouTube clips as I don’t own the movie, but I get the following: Marion 1 Nepalese thug (shot in the back) 8 German soldiers (shot with airplane machinegun) Total: 9 Indy 1 Nepalese thugs (shot) 1 Nepalese thug (left to burn in bar)\*\* 1 German thug (shot) Swordsman (shot) Truck driver (shot) Arab gunman on truck (shot) Bald German (airplane propeller) German Sergeant (thrown under truck) 3 German soldiers (car forced off cliff) Total: 11 \*\*Can be argued if died or not. Now, you might include one more for Indy (German in back of truck that blows up), but his fate is unclear as you never see him go down. Also, Marion guns down two German soldiers on foot at the airfield, but though I think those came from the truck it’s not 100% certain. Still, I think these numbers are pretty close. So Marion does need rescuing now and then, but she’s not above kicking some ass. Reflecting on this makes her a more interesting character to me. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2019, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marion-ravenwood-killed-almost-as-many-people-as-indiana-jones-did/830651/2 "2019-03-06T23:26:50Z")
> [@Patch](#): > > 3 German soldiers (car forced off cliff) Where did that chasm come from, and then where did it go? 😕 I refuse to acknowledge that snippet of film. ---
**Author:** ![teela\_brown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d9b06d/32.png) [@teela\_brown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/teela_brown)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2019, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marion-ravenwood-killed-almost-as-many-people-as-indiana-jones-did/830651/3 "2019-03-07T00:01:09Z")
Marion probably also drank that one Nepalese thug into death from alcohol poisoning. ---
**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2019, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marion-ravenwood-killed-almost-as-many-people-as-indiana-jones-did/830651/4 "2019-03-07T00:24:12Z")
What about the other Nazis in the back of the truck? Didn’t Indy brush them off the truck against the side of the road? And weren’t there some motorcyclists? ---
**Author:** ![MEBuckner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mebuckner/32/2896_2.png) [@MEBuckner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MEBuckner)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2019, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marion-ravenwood-killed-almost-as-many-people-as-indiana-jones-did/830651/5 "2019-03-07T00:41:51Z")
> [@teela\_brown](#): > > Marion probably also drank that one Nepalese thug into death from alcohol poisoning. She sobers up awfully fast too. (Given that she owns the bar, I almost suspect some trickery in that scene.) ---
**Author:** ![engineer\_comp\_geek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/engineer_comp_geek/32/504_2.png) [@engineer\_comp\_geek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/engineer_comp_geek)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2019, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marion-ravenwood-killed-almost-as-many-people-as-indiana-jones-did/830651/6 "2019-03-07T02:15:17Z")
**Moderator Action** Moving thread from MPSIMS to Cafe Society. ---
**Author:** ![Patch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a183cd/32.png) [@Patch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Patch)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2019, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marion-ravenwood-killed-almost-as-many-people-as-indiana-jones-did/830651/7 "2019-03-07T03:28:44Z")
> [@Quartz](#): > > What about the other Nazis in the back of the truck? Didn’t Indy brush them off the truck against the side of the road? And weren’t there some motorcyclists? I didn’t include the guys off the side of the truck those weren’t clearly fatal. They simply fell off. I don’t recall motorcycles in the first film. ---
**Author:** ![Abner\_Ravenwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c4cdca/32.png) [@Abner\_Ravenwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Abner_Ravenwood)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2019, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marion-ravenwood-killed-almost-as-many-people-as-indiana-jones-did/830651/8 "2019-03-07T16:57:05Z")
> [@Patch](#): > > I didn’t include the guys off the side of the truck those weren’t clearly fatal. They simply fell off. > > I don’t recall motorcycles in the first film. 3:50 ---
**Author:** ![GESancMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gesancman/32/2923_2.png) [@GESancMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GESancMan)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2019, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marion-ravenwood-killed-almost-as-many-people-as-indiana-jones-did/830651/9 "2019-03-07T17:21:31Z")
> [@Abner\_Ravenwood](#): > ^ Straight from the horse’s mouth! ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2019, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marion-ravenwood-killed-almost-as-many-people-as-indiana-jones-did/830651/10 "2019-03-07T23:20:31Z")
> [@Abner\_Ravenwood](#): > > 3:50 Those were also not fatal, since they are seen getting up. ---
**Author:** ![Two\_Many\_Cats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8dc957/32.png) [@Two\_Many\_Cats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Two_Many_Cats)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2019, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marion-ravenwood-killed-almost-as-many-people-as-indiana-jones-did/830651/11 "2019-03-08T00:17:35Z")
I’m not certain about the propeller guy. Yeah, Indy didn’t warn him about the propeller, but that’s not the same as pushing him into it. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2019, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marion-ravenwood-killed-almost-as-many-people-as-indiana-jones-did/830651/12 "2019-03-08T02:35:52Z")
Just occurred to me, why didn’t the soldiers in the truck just shoot forward from the cargo area into the cabin? The nervous little whinny Indy makes at 4:38 makes the scene for me - he’s genuinely worried at that moment. ---
**Author:** ![Asuka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@Asuka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asuka)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2025, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marion-ravenwood-killed-almost-as-many-people-as-indiana-jones-did/830651/13 "2025-06-20T18:13:59Z")
I just rewatched the movie and also thought this, glad to see already a topic. I’m counting 2 more for Marion, the guy she hits with the burning stick in the bar (since she leaves him behind to die in fire) and the German gunner of the plane since she also knocks him out and leaves him to die. ---
**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2025, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marion-ravenwood-killed-almost-as-many-people-as-indiana-jones-did/830651/14 "2025-06-20T21:30:12Z")
Do we know that the swordsman that Indy shot actually died? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2025, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marion-ravenwood-killed-almost-as-many-people-as-indiana-jones-did/830651/15 "2025-06-20T21:35:41Z")
He went down pretty hard. And the crowd went wild. ---
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2025, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marion-ravenwood-killed-almost-as-many-people-as-indiana-jones-did/830651/16 "2025-06-20T21:53:22Z")
Marion Ravenwood is a serial killer? Sorry, just came over from the [Reacher](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jack-reacher-is-a-serial-killer/1019886) thread. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2025, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marion-ravenwood-killed-almost-as-many-people-as-indiana-jones-did/830651/17 "2025-06-20T22:34:47Z")
Exactly. Gruesome death but not really Indy’s fault. ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2025, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marion-ravenwood-killed-almost-as-many-people-as-indiana-jones-did/830651/18 "2025-06-22T02:04:49Z")
For that matter, they didn’t show propellor guy, just a bunch of blood. Some ointment and bandages and he’s good to go. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2025, 11:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marion-ravenwood-killed-almost-as-many-people-as-indiana-jones-did/830651/19 "2025-06-24T11:36:54Z")
> [@Gatopescado](#): > > Where did that chasm come from, and then where did it go? 😕 The same place the Giant Midwest Chasm came from in the Chris Pine _Star Trek_