# Mark Carney and U.S./Canada Relations

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [March 23, 2025, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mark-carney-and-u-s-canada-relations/1015983 "2025-03-23T16:05:46Z")\
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**Author:** ![Ynnad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/4491bb/32.png) [@Ynnad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ynnad)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2025, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mark-carney-and-u-s-canada-relations/1015983/1 "2025-03-23T16:05:46Z")

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It’s been about nine days since Mark Carney became Prime Minister of Canada. Has there been any discernible change in U.S./Canada relations since then? Is the current U.S. administration even aware that Trudeau is no longer PM?

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**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2025, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mark-carney-and-u-s-canada-relations/1015983/2 "2025-03-23T17:10:36Z")

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I read almost none of the Trump threads–and everything is scattered all over among multiple threads anyway–but the big recent news is:

> **[Trump suggests US could be ‘associate member’ of British Commonwealth: ‘I...](https://nypost.com/2025/03/21/us-news/trump-suggests-us-could-be-associate-member-of-british-commonwealth-i-love-king-charles/)**
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> Reports in the British press indicate an offer could be made by the monarch when Trump makes a state visit to the UK later this year.

So Trump and Carney could within a few months be rubbing shoulders at Commonwealth meetings.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2025, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mark-carney-and-u-s-canada-relations/1015983/3 "2025-03-23T17:19:38Z")

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I think Charles should talk this up and make a big noise about how when he invalidates the American Revolution and the USA becomes part of the Commonwealth, he will bestow a knighthood on Donnie and even throw in a big estate or something (that no one is using) with enough room for a golf course… and then

On April 1, yell very loudly so it will be heard across the pond:  
 _“APRIL FOOL! JOKE’S ON YOU, YOU BIG DUMB LOSER!”_

A girl can dream, can’t she?

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**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2025, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mark-carney-and-u-s-canada-relations/1015983/4 "2025-03-23T17:25:11Z")

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Of course the US is well aware there is a new PM. Trump is probably taking credit for it.

We’ll see in early April if there is much change. I doubt it. But circumstances have enabled rare provincial and federal agreement on energy corridors, some talk about reducing barriers, and making it so both provincial and federal governments do not have to review projects, which was often a big waste of time and money.

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2025, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mark-carney-and-u-s-canada-relations/1015983/5 "2025-03-23T17:27:57Z")

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It will be interesting to see how the relationship with the Orange Peril plays out. Carney is an intelligent, methodical thinker with a low-key personality – practically the diametric opposite of the orange bully in every respect. The only thing that’s predictable is that the Orange Peril will invent insults for Carney which he will post to Truth Social while sitting on the toilet at 3 AM.

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**Author:** ![Ynnad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/4491bb/32.png) [@Ynnad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ynnad)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2025, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mark-carney-and-u-s-canada-relations/1015983/6 "2025-03-23T17:53:16Z")

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> [@Dr\_Paprika](#):
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> Trump is probably taking credit for it.

I haven’t heard anything to that effect from Trump even though it might be expected. Does anyone have any Trump quotes about the subject?

Employees of the U.S. executive administration who actually have to work for a living most likely know that Carney is PM. And Elonia probably knows as well. But I wouldn’t be surprised if senior advisors periodically have to advise the president and maybe the vice president that Trudeau is no longer in office.

Also, if you did a poll of average Americans right now, how many do you think could identify the current Canadian Prime Minster?

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2025, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mark-carney-and-u-s-canada-relations/1015983/7 "2025-03-23T17:57:31Z")

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> [@PastTense](#):
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> [Trump suggests US could be 'associate member' of British Commonwealth: 'I love King Charles'](https://nypost.com/2025/03/21/us-news/trump-suggests-us-could-be-associate-member-of-british-commonwealth-i-love-king-charles/)

The monarch is head of the Commonwealth, but doesn’t control membership. Nor does the United Kingdom. Addition of a new member requires agreement of the existing 56 member states.

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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2025, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mark-carney-and-u-s-canada-relations/1015983/8 "2025-03-23T18:28:00Z")

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There was this reaction:

> **[Trump says it'll be easier to deal with Liberal leader in Canada](https://financialpost.com/news/trump-easier-deal-liberal-leader-canada)**
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> U.S. President Donald Trump said he would rather work with the Liberal Party leader in Canada to resolve a trade war. Read more.

Which most people I saw interpreted as a ham-handed attempt at reverse psychology, “Oh Noes! He wants the Liberals! I’d better vote for those Conservatives!”

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2025, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mark-carney-and-u-s-canada-relations/1015983/9 "2025-03-23T18:35:31Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> A girl can dream, can’t she?

That’s a great dream!

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**Author:** ![Ynnad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/4491bb/32.png) [@Ynnad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ynnad)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2025, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mark-carney-and-u-s-canada-relations/1015983/10 "2025-03-23T19:53:31Z")

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I wonder if Trump is even aware that Pierre Trudeau and Justin Trudeau are different people.

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**Author:** ![mnemosyne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c4cdca/32.png) [@mnemosyne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mnemosyne)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2025, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mark-carney-and-u-s-canada-relations/1015983/11 "2025-03-23T20:59:50Z")

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To read some media comments, I have my doubts about certain Canadians knowing the difference…!

Regarding the Commonwealth, I’m thinking threatening the existence of one of the foremost members is _probably_ not going to be acceptable were the question ever to be debated among the Commonwealth leaders.

Trump only wants it because it has the word “wealth” in it.

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**Post date:** [March 24, 2025, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mark-carney-and-u-s-canada-relations/1015983/12 "2025-03-24T22:37:19Z")

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Surely the offer to join the Commonwealth is a joke.  
There are such satires posted on the web from time to time.
