# Mark Meadows? Voter Fraud?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mark-meadows-voter-fraud/962781>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [April 13, 2022, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mark-meadows-voter-fraud/962781 "2022-04-13T17:33:11Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 9\
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**Post date:** [April 14, 2022, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mark-meadows-voter-fraud/962781/21 "2022-04-14T18:58:43Z")

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> [@RitterSport](#):
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> I think he should get the treatment of this Texas woman (five year sentence for a vote that was never even counted):

Exactly what I was thinking about.

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**Author:** ![UltraVires](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ecccb3/32.png) [@UltraVires](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UltraVires)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2022, 7:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mark-meadows-voter-fraud/962781/22 "2022-04-15T07:03:39Z")

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> [@MandaJo](#):
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> They had effectively sold their home and moved to DC/NOVA.

> [@MandaJo](#):
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> He was in the process of moving to NoVa.

> [@MandaJo](#):
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> He lived in a different state at the time.

Politics and personalities aside, residency is a tricky thing. Residency is where you intend to remain indefinitely. It wouldn’t be unusual for someone to live in Nebraska and get appointed to a government job in D.C.to decide that he wanted to maintain his residency in Nebraska because he intended to return there once his appointment was over.

It is also not unusual to say that you don’t want a big house to maintain in Nebraska for the interim so you will sell that and buy a trailer to maintain that residency. There is nothing illegal or unusual about this. Robert C. Byrd, for example, had a house in WV that he didn’t sleep a night in for over 40 years, but it was enough to maintain WV residency.

Then when the first person (not Byrd) gets to Virginia, they decide that they like it there pretty well and want to make it home so they change their voter registration. I have never heard of a situation where a person must then go back to Nebraska and be removed from the voter rolls; that is done through the new registration process.

The fact that Meadows registered to vote in VA should have automatically removed him from the NC voter rolls. It seems as if the fault is with the administrative staff in NC, not with Meadows.

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**Author:** ![Lance\_Turbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lance_turbo/32/6156_2.png) [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2022, 12:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mark-meadows-voter-fraud/962781/23 "2022-04-15T12:07:25Z")

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This is as clear a case of voter registration fraud as you’re going to get.

He registered at an address where he didn’t live, but that’s only part of it. He also put down the next day’s date as the date he was going to move in to the property. There’s no way he didn’t know that was a false statement.

From the New Yorker article linked above:

> He listed his move-in date for this address as the following day, September 20th.

> [@UltraVires](#):
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> The fact that Meadows registered to vote in VA should have automatically removed him from the NC voter rolls. It seems as if the fault is with the administrative staff in NC, not with Meadows.

He registered at an address he didn’t reside at for the 2020 election in NC and voted in that election. Then registered in Virginia for the 2021 governor race, and voted in that election. He has been removed from NC rolls.

The fault is definitely with Meadows for lying on his voter registration form in NC in 2020.

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**Post date:** [April 15, 2022, 12:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mark-meadows-voter-fraud/962781/24 "2022-04-15T12:38:01Z")

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> [@UltraVires](#):
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> The fact that Meadows registered to vote in VA should have automatically removed him from the NC voter rolls. It seems as if the fault is with the administrative staff in NC, not with Meadows.

Does VA notify the previous state of the new registration? Does the VA form even have a place for noting that information?

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**Post date:** [April 15, 2022, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mark-meadows-voter-fraud/962781/25 "2022-04-15T13:12:18Z")

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> [@Sage\_Rat](#):
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> When you’re busy and have other things to focus on, don’t want to forget to do it, you’re following the law, and you _might be_ registering for the eventually correct location…why not?

When you’re a politician, things like your voter registration are the things you’re busy with and focusing on. This was literally his job.

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**Author:** ![Lance\_Turbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lance_turbo/32/6156_2.png) [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2022, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mark-meadows-voter-fraud/962781/26 "2022-04-15T13:47:59Z")

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And he definitely knew he wasn’t moving into a trailer the next day which is what he claimed on his voter registration form.

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**Post date:** [April 15, 2022, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mark-meadows-voter-fraud/962781/27 "2022-04-15T22:46:36Z")

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> [@RitterSport](#):
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> I think he should get the treatment of this Texas woman (five year sentence for a vote that was never even counted):

I vigorously disagree with this suggestion.

The woman in Texas seems to have mistakenly tried to cast an ineligible vote. What Meadows did seems premeditated. His sentence should be much harsher. Let’s say 20 years.

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**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2022, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mark-meadows-voter-fraud/962781/28 "2022-04-15T23:03:30Z")

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I’ll tell you what – we’ll split the difference and hang him for sedition for his actions on January 6.

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**Post date:** [April 16, 2022, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mark-meadows-voter-fraud/962781/29 "2022-04-16T01:44:56Z")

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> [@UltraVires](#):
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> The fact that Meadows registered to vote in VA should have automatically removed him from the NC voter rolls.

Nope, that does not automatically happen. People move between states all the time and hardly any of them bother to unregister from their old state. So most states have a good many people on their rolls who now live out of state.

There is a program called [ERIC](https://ericstates.org/) (Electronic Registration Information Center) that a number of states subscribe to and that will sometimes flag people who move between states so the voter can be removed from the old state’s rolls. But not all states are in it (about 30 of them are) so not all people who move are caught. In particular, NC is not in it, so his moving to VA would not have been caught by this method.

States also periodically remove any voters who haven’t voted in a certain time, usually something like 5 to 8 years or 2 presidential elections. This is the traditional way that people who move out of state get removed.

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