# Mark Robinson condemns TV shows **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [March 6, 2024, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mark-robinson-condemns-tv-shows/998538 "2024-03-06T13:49:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![PatrickLondon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/patricklondon/32/4422_2.png) [@PatrickLondon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatrickLondon)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2024, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mark-robinson-condemns-tv-shows/998538/21 "2024-03-07T14:31:35Z")
Considering the present state of the world, what would be so terrible about a New World Order? ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2024, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mark-robinson-condemns-tv-shows/998538/22 "2024-03-07T15:38:01Z")
> [@](#): > > _Mark Robinson_: a “ **satanic Marxist** production” made by a “secular **Jew** ,” Dude! After you’ve blown the dog whistle there’s no need to make it clear exactly what that dog whistle means. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2024, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mark-robinson-condemns-tv-shows/998538/23 "2024-03-07T15:53:52Z")
> [@PatrickLondon](#): > > what would be so terrible about a New World Order? It’s not that it would be “a” New World Order, it’s that it would be “The” New World Order. They’ve built up **The** NWO as such a boogey man over the last 20+ years that it’s just a boilerplate stand in for everything they hate. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2024, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mark-robinson-condemns-tv-shows/998538/24 "2024-03-07T16:11:50Z")
> [@Horatius](#): > > It’s not that it would be “a” New World Order, it’s that it would be “The” New World Order. They’ve built up **The** NWO as such a boogey man over the last 20+ years It goes back much further than _that_. Maybe under a different name, but it’s the same old conspiracy. Here’s the “logic”, for lack of a better term. The New **World** Order is, as implied by the name, international. If there’s this **Order** at the _inter_national level, who does that weaken? That’s right - _nations_. Who might want to weaken _nations_? Why, people _without_ a nation, of course. And who doesn’t have a nation? Why, the Jews\*! \*Again, this is an _old_ conspiracy theory. But why change your theory when facts change? Easier to twist facts to make them fit your theory - so in many of these theories Israel is often a key part of the plan for how this New World Order is going to take over. The _New_ part is also doing some work. That’s often taken to mean “Socialist”. And I’m sure I don’t need to tell you that Jews are secretly agents of Socialism (unless _you_ are a socialist, in which case you may well believe that Jews are agents of the capitalist pigs! But that’s a different story). So let’s recap. The New World Order is what the evil Socialist Jews want to set up after they’ve dismantled your nation and mixed your race with brown immigrants. That’s why it’s bad. Any questions? Eta: if you want to use a dogwhistle instead of be openly antisemitic you can use the term “Globalists”, which means “Jews” (when used as a sneer). To an ultra-nationalist, nothing is scarier than “International Jewry”. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2024, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mark-robinson-condemns-tv-shows/998538/25 "2024-03-07T16:12:34Z")
> [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > Dude! After you’ve blown the dog whistle there’s no need to make it clear exactly what that dog whistle means. But then how will the really stupid dogs know you’re talking to them? ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2024, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mark-robinson-condemns-tv-shows/998538/26 "2024-03-07T16:17:16Z")
Illuminati, Rosicrucians, Alchemy, _oh my_! ---
**Author:** ![scabpicker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scabpicker/32/8268_2.png) [@scabpicker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scabpicker)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2024, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mark-robinson-condemns-tv-shows/998538/27 "2024-03-07T17:13:07Z")
Heheh, and the best part is that it was George HW Bush that coined the phrase. [https://bush41library.tamu.edu/archives/public-papers/2656](https://bush41library.tamu.edu/archives/public-papers/2656) ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2024, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mark-robinson-condemns-tv-shows/998538/28 "2024-03-07T17:15:22Z")
> [@scabpicker](#): > > it was George HW Bush that coined the phrase. No, it definitely was not. ---
**Author:** ![scabpicker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scabpicker/32/8268_2.png) [@scabpicker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scabpicker)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2024, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mark-robinson-condemns-tv-shows/998538/29 "2024-03-07T17:16:27Z")
Ehhh, popularized? I surely never heard it before then. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2024, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mark-robinson-condemns-tv-shows/998538/30 "2024-03-07T17:17:14Z")
Mark Robinson is the worst. It’s pretty scary to think he could be our next governor. Doubly so given that the Republican candidate for State Superintendent of Public Instruction, Michelle Morrow, is a homeschooler nutcase and January 6 attendee who has literally no experience at all in NC public schools, and who has basically campaigned on calling us “socialist indoctrination centers” over and over, with minor variations (e.g., we teach CRT, and transgender theory, and how to hate our country, etc.) If either of them wins, it’ll probably be because both of them win. If both of them win, I’m not sure I can stay. [https://www.newsobserver.com/news/politics-government/election/article286325695.html](https://www.newsobserver.com/news/politics-government/election/article286325695.html) ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2024, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mark-robinson-condemns-tv-shows/998538/31 "2024-03-07T17:19:53Z")
> ### General usage (pre-Cold War) > > During the 20th century, political figures such as Woodrow Wilson and Winston Churchill used the term “new world order” to refer to a new period of history characterized by a dramatic change in world political thought and in the global balance of power after World War I and World War II. > **[New World Order (conspiracy theory)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_World_Order_(conspiracy_theory))** > > The New World Order (NWO) is a term used in several conspiracy theories which hypothesize a secretly emerging totalitarian world government. The common theme in conspiracy theories about a New World Order is that a secretive power elite with a globalist agenda is conspiring to eventually achieve world domination and rule the world through an authoritarian one-world government—which will replace sovereign nation-states—and an all-encompassing propaganda whose ideology hails the esta Before the ... ---
**Author:** ![scabpicker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scabpicker/32/8268_2.png) [@scabpicker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scabpicker)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2024, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mark-robinson-condemns-tv-shows/998538/32 "2024-03-07T17:22:30Z")
> [@](#): > > Before the early 1990s, New World Order conspiracism was limited to two American countercultures, primarily the militantly anti-government right, and secondarily the part of [fundamentalist Christianity](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fundamentalist_Christianity) concerned with the [eschatological](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eschatological) end-time emergence of the [Antichrist](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antichrist). So yeah, popularized. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2024, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mark-robinson-condemns-tv-shows/998538/33 "2024-03-07T18:14:25Z")
I have a theory that following the fall of the Soviet Union, all that freefloating right-wing paranoia previously applied to the Communist Evil Empire latched onto the pre-existing but fringe belief in the NWO, just as it later did with the “Deep State” and QAnon. ---
**Author:** ![sciurophobic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cab0a1/32.png) [@sciurophobic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sciurophobic)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2024, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mark-robinson-condemns-tv-shows/998538/34 "2024-03-07T18:23:24Z")
I’m guessing Robinson is offended that Chopped frequently has openly gay contestants, not to mention an openly gay host. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2024, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mark-robinson-condemns-tv-shows/998538/35 "2024-03-07T18:34:51Z")
In that article, you can see the distinction between “A” NWO and “The” NWO I mentioned. Political types refer to “A New World Order” at times when that’s literally what’s happening. Post-WWI, WWII, Cold War, the previous “order of the world” was largely replaced. Previous allies became enemies, enemies became friends, new international organizations were created, stuff like that. But “The” NWO is pure CTism. It’s not just that the world is changing, it’s that the world _is being changed_. And it’s being changed by The Usual Suspects (Jews, Commies, aliens, demons, etc.), and they have a plan for what those changes will be. It’s not just random re-shufflings of alliances based on new national self-interests. No, it’s all designed to promote the international bankers, commies, atheists, etc, and put them in power over Patriotic Americans. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2024, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mark-robinson-condemns-tv-shows/998538/36 "2024-03-07T18:39:16Z")
> [@Horatius](#): > > But “The” NWO is pure CTism. It’s not just that the world is changing, it’s that the world _is being changed_. And it’s being changed by The Usual Suspects (Jews, Commies, aliens, demons, etc.), and they have a plan for what those changes will be. It’s not just random re-shufflings of alliances based on new national self-interests. No, it’s all designed to promote the international bankers, commies, atheists, etc, and put them in power over Patriotic Americans. Right. It represents the “threat” posed by “globalists” or “internationalist forces” to the Nationalist ideal. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2024, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mark-robinson-condemns-tv-shows/998538/37 "2024-03-07T18:54:55Z")
Technically correct (the best kind!) but I have seen CTers work that, otherwise innocuous, history into the CT. Every thing that happened post/during WWI, WWII, Cold War, etc. is part of ‘’‘their’‘’ plan. (Really, everything since we started walking upright is part of ‘’‘their’‘’ plan.) Where the _they_ in _their_ always is, in the end, the Jews. ---
**Author:** ![scabpicker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scabpicker/32/8268_2.png) [@scabpicker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scabpicker)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2024, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mark-robinson-condemns-tv-shows/998538/38 "2024-03-07T19:01:33Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > I have a theory that following the fall of the Soviet Union, all that freefloating right-wing paranoia previously applied to the Communist Evil Empire latched onto the pre-existing but fringe belief in the NWO, just as it later did with the “Deep State” and QAnon. Pretty good theory on the face of it. You’d have a hell of a time proving it, though. ---
**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2024, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mark-robinson-condemns-tv-shows/998538/39 "2024-03-07T19:09:14Z")
That probably doesn’t help. But given the other shows he complains about, it’s about seeking fame and fortune through hedonistic exhibitionism. ---
**Author:** ![PatrickLondon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/patricklondon/32/4422_2.png) [@PatrickLondon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatrickLondon)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2024, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mark-robinson-condemns-tv-shows/998538/40 "2024-03-07T21:51:44Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > I have a theory that following the fall of the Soviet Union, all that freefloating right-wing paranoia previously applied to the Communist Evil Empire latched onto the pre-existing but fringe belief in the NWO, just as it later did with the “Deep State” and QAnon. Pure anecdata, but I remember a TV documentary/travelogue on the US where the presenter (Miriam Margolyes) was talking to a hyper-emotional evangelical woman with a veritable arsenal of guns, and when she was asked why, she said that the minute she heard GHWB talking about the/a NWO after the fall of the Wall, she marched straight down to the gun shop. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mark-robinson-condemns-tv-shows/998538.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mark-robinson-condemns-tv-shows/998538.md?page=3)