# Mark Zuckerberg wants Meta's AI chatbot to support racism and seduce young children

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [August 15, 2025, 11:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mark-zuckerberg-wants-metas-ai-chatbot-to-support-racism-and-seduce-young-children/1022106 "2025-08-15T11:55:11Z")\
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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2025, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mark-zuckerberg-wants-metas-ai-chatbot-to-support-racism-and-seduce-young-children/1022106/21 "2025-09-19T20:16:55Z")

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> [@bobsmom101](#):
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> watch Mr Billion-Dollar-Yacht Zuckerberg’s AI make a fool of him:

It’s not the AI’s fault… The WiFi was conspiring against them and forced the AI to misbehave!

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2025, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mark-zuckerberg-wants-metas-ai-chatbot-to-support-racism-and-seduce-young-children/1022106/22 "2025-09-19T20:29:36Z")

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One would think these tech bosses would stop trying to give demonstrations. At least technology failing is less cringe than demonstrating an unbreakable CyberTruck window by breaking it.

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**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2025, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mark-zuckerberg-wants-metas-ai-chatbot-to-support-racism-and-seduce-young-children/1022106/23 "2025-09-19T21:02:05Z")

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> [@JRDelirious](#):
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> One would think these tech bosses would stop trying to give demonstrations.

They all believe they are Steve Jobs, except they don’t have the pathologically obsessive drive to micromanage every aspect and rehearse the presentation a dozen times before launch day while totally losing their shit any time the spotlight or music is out of time by even a fraction of a second.

Stranger

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2025, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mark-zuckerberg-wants-metas-ai-chatbot-to-support-racism-and-seduce-young-children/1022106/24 "2025-09-19T23:30:48Z")

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> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#):
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> They all believe they are Steve Jobs, except they don’t have the pathologically obsessive drive to micromanage every aspect and rehearse the presentation a dozen times before launch day while totally losing their shit any time the spotlight or music is out of time by even a fraction of a second.

Zuckerberg didn’t even make the effort to wear a turtleneck.

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**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2025, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mark-zuckerberg-wants-metas-ai-chatbot-to-support-racism-and-seduce-young-children/1022106/25 "2025-09-20T00:44:22Z")

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The collar blocks his USB-C charging port at the nape of the neck.

Stranger

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2025, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mark-zuckerberg-wants-metas-ai-chatbot-to-support-racism-and-seduce-young-children/1022106/26 "2025-09-20T02:18:21Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> > [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#):
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> > They all believe they are Steve Jobs, except they don’t have the pathologically obsessive drive to micromanage every aspect and rehearse the presentation a dozen times before launch day while totally losing their shit any time the spotlight or music is out of time by even a fraction of a second.
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> Zuckerberg didn’t even make the effort to wear a turtleneck.

Yep. As this behind the scenes video shows, there were a lot of things that Jobs and the Apple techs and software people did to make the first IPhone demo work:

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/uRKHCXh1Crw/maxresdefault.jpg "Steve Jobs 1st iPhone Presentation - Behind the Scenes") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRKHCXh1Crw&t=1)

> On the surface, this presentation looks so casual; but in fact it was carefully choreographed. Every click, every scroll, every sequence. “When you run into bugs today that’s because it’s been worked out like then it’s just the first time, like you’re and you would go: okay press this one… now wait two seconds press this now; but it was so choreographed if you went off the script it could [fail] so you had to make sure when the demo worked, to know exactly what they were supposed to do at which time.”
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> However, the biggest problem was that the iPhone ran out of memory. It had to be restarted again and again. Jobs had a number of demo iPhones onstage with him to manage this problem, if memory ran low on the one he had, he would switch to another while the first was restarted. We would have backups upon backups upon backups, so that if something died you could pick up.
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> Another one was right next to it to continue the demo. But given how many demos jobs were planned, there were far too many potential points of failure, and the people working on this keynote knew it.
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> "I had actually brought a bottle of scotch we’re in the audience or watching the whole thing unfolded we decided whoever was responsible for that particular, you know, chunk of the demo had to do a shot, and so after each cut like they’re giving me a ‘there give me a shot’ oh my god by the end of the announcement I had done like six shots of scotch and I was hammered, oh my god!
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> So each time a demo went without a glitch, a team member did a shot of scotch to celebrate: call on an iPhone. A shot of scotch. New York Times browsing? A shot of scotch. Finding a Starbucks? A shot of scotch, by the time the presentation ended the team was half drunk!
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> It was the worst presentation of their lives… It was the best presentation of their lives.
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> “You know, we had never once seen a demo run-through go as well as announcement day went through. And so when you see that reaction the crowd that year, it’s it was unlike anything I think I’d ever been through, now Steve Jobs took many risks to present the iPhone to the world. The best he could, the whole company was at stake during that presentation, and this is not an exaggeration, if the iPhone failed, there was no new product to back it up; no plan B, you know it’s a rollercoaster ride and if it aint scary, it ain’t fun. Realizing in advance the importance of this presentation.”

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**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2025, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mark-zuckerberg-wants-metas-ai-chatbot-to-support-racism-and-seduce-young-children/1022106/27 "2025-09-20T13:50:17Z")

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More sleaze from the Accidental Billionaire & Co.

> **[Parents outraged as Meta uses photos of schoolgirls in ads targeting man](https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/sep/20/parents-outraged-meta-uses-photos-schoolgirls-ads-man)**
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> Exclusive: Instagram pictures of girls as young as 13 were posted to promote Threads site ‘as bait’, campaigner says

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**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2025, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mark-zuckerberg-wants-metas-ai-chatbot-to-support-racism-and-seduce-young-children/1022106/28 "2025-09-20T13:59:49Z")

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> [@BlankSlate](#):
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> More sleaze from the Accidental Billionaire & Co.

> _The children’s images were used by Meta after their parents had posted them on Instagram to mark their return to school. The parents were unaware that Meta’s settings permitted it to do this. One mother said her account was set to private, but the posts were automatically cross-posting to [Threads](https://www.theguardian.com/technology/threads) where they were visible. Another said she posted the picture to a public Instagram account. The posts of their children were highlighted to the stranger as “suggested threads”._

How do people still think that the ‘private’ information they post to social media platforms is actually treated with confidentiality? And what parent posts information about their children on Facebook or Instagram in 2025? Jesus Christ, people are fucking stupid.

Stranger

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2025, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mark-zuckerberg-wants-metas-ai-chatbot-to-support-racism-and-seduce-young-children/1022106/29 "2025-09-20T18:01:42Z")

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> [@BlankSlate](#):
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> [Parents outraged as Meta uses photos of schoolgirls in ads targeting man | Meta | The Guardian](https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/sep/20/parents-outraged-meta-uses-photos-schoolgirls-ads-man)

So, figuring I have enough dodgy politics and porn searches over the last two decades to be in a dozen different watchlists already anyway, I decided to test a suspicion and went to InstaGram and entered just “schoolgirls” in the search field.

It returns a warning page about the dangers of CSAM.

So: **META** can exploit pictures of REAL, identifiable, minor, schoolgirls on their platform and put them in someone’s feed if the algorithm decides he may be interested. But if an individual perv tried to “do his own research” on a not-uncommon fetish, he’d be sternly admonished to not use the search function for that purpose. That’s some mighty thin CYA effort there from the company.

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**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2025, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mark-zuckerberg-wants-metas-ai-chatbot-to-support-racism-and-seduce-young-children/1022106/30 "2025-09-21T13:53:55Z")

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Credit Suisse Asset Management?

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2025, 6:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mark-zuckerberg-wants-metas-ai-chatbot-to-support-racism-and-seduce-young-children/1022106/31 "2025-09-22T06:31:59Z")

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Oh, for fuck’s sake.  
“Child Sexual Abuse Material”. There, I saved you a single goddamn highlight+click, you’re welcome.

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**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2025, 8:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mark-zuckerberg-wants-metas-ai-chatbot-to-support-racism-and-seduce-young-children/1022106/32 "2025-09-22T08:22:57Z")

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Thanks. Smapti pm’d me that, too.

It wasn’t really something I wanted in my search history and I had never heard of it.

Smapti also explained that people use that instead of porn because porn may make it seem voluntary.

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**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2025, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mark-zuckerberg-wants-metas-ai-chatbot-to-support-racism-and-seduce-young-children/1022106/33 "2025-09-22T12:55:16Z")

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> [@MrDibble](#):
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> There, I saved you a single goddamn highlight+click, you’re welcome.

Never underestimate a Doper’s tendency toward oppositional defiance just to make a point that nobody else cares about.

Stranger

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2025, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mark-zuckerberg-wants-metas-ai-chatbot-to-support-racism-and-seduce-young-children/1022106/34 "2025-09-22T16:12:23Z")

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Sorry about that, I can see now how my contextualizing could have been interpreted to mean looking up “CSAM” **itself** would be some sort of red flag.  
I forget not everyone has seen the threads where we discussed it before.

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**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2025, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mark-zuckerberg-wants-metas-ai-chatbot-to-support-racism-and-seduce-young-children/1022106/35 "2025-09-22T18:23:29Z")

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I have literally never seen that before, and I work in finance, so CSAM means Credit Suisse to me.

I don’t know why I’m getting all this crap for that. I’m sure you have no idea who I am, but I haven’t been a problematic pain in the ass poster.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2025, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mark-zuckerberg-wants-metas-ai-chatbot-to-support-racism-and-seduce-young-children/1022106/36 "2025-09-22T18:29:58Z")

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If you look up “CSAM” in Google, every result for the top couple of pages is regarding the Child Sexual Abuse Material definition.

But Wikipedia has a large number of possible meanings on its disambiguation page.

> **[CSAM](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CSAM)**
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> CSAM may refer to:

And even the US DOJ has a definition where it means Cybersecurity Assessment and Management.

> **[Cyber Security Assessment and Management (CSAM)](https://www.justice.gov/jmd/cyber-security-assessment-and-management-csam)**

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2025, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mark-zuckerberg-wants-metas-ai-chatbot-to-support-racism-and-seduce-young-children/1022106/37 "2025-09-22T20:18:39Z")

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> [@RitterSport](#):
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> I work in finance, so CSAM means Credit Suisse to me.

> [@Atamasama](#):
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> even the US DOJ has a definition where it means Cybersecurity Assessment and Management.

Reminds me the Bureau of Land Management, initialism **BLM** , must have been getting a hard time from online pests in the past few years. Over confusion with Black Lives Matter.

Really, we _should_ not be assuming things and it’s fair for people to ask.

On The Other Hand … all those ARE going to make life hard for people doing searches.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2025, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mark-zuckerberg-wants-metas-ai-chatbot-to-support-racism-and-seduce-young-children/1022106/38 "2025-09-30T20:41:20Z")

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> [@](#):
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> With 267 followers, her Instagram account usually had modest reach but the post of her child attracted nearly 7,000 views, 90% from non-followers, half of whom were aged over 44 and 90% of whom were men.

Jeez, she’s complaining that her Instagram account is suddenly wildly popular?

You just can’t please some people. 😕

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