# Marley, if you can't moderately honestly, then recuse yourself.  Or: Respect Mahlay's Authoritay!

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**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2011, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marley-if-you-cant-moderately-honestly-then-recuse-yourself-or-respect-mahlays-authoritay/593260/46 "2011-08-20T19:01:04Z")

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> [@FinnAgain](#):
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> Correct John, you do not get to. Moderating means to tell someone to change their behavior. Moderating does not mean anything at all that’s said in a post in which a mod engages in moderation.

This might be most hilarious example of demonstrating the point you think you’re disproving that I’ve ever seen.

A: “You don’t get to define what moderation means.”  
B: “That’s right, _you_ don’t. Moderation means [insert definition of what moderation means].”

[QUOTE=FinnAgain]

What’s amazing is that you’ve decided to post something that’s clearly not true, and that doesn’t bother you.  
I already conceded the fact that I did, in fact, originally state that Marley’s claim that I was being overly rude was ridiculous. In this very thread. Being factually accurate shouldn’t be that difficult for you, Giraffe. But of course, Marley’s moderation, that I was to refrain from being “rude”, was no longer being discussed by the point where he claimed I was discussing his moderation.

Can you be the poster to, finally, cite where Marley gave instructions that I was to follow that included how I was not to disagree with Bricker’s description of my own words? Because, of course, I did follow the actual moderation. And I haven’t argued that I didn’t have to.  
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I know this won’t work, but what the hey. Here is the cite where Marley gave instructions that you were to follow.

> [@Do the new tobacco warnings violate 1st Amendment rights?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-the-new-tobacco-warnings-violate-1st-amendment-rights/593003/68):
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> **FinnAgain** , this is not the forum for disputes about moderating.

> [@Do the new tobacco warnings violate 1st Amendment rights?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-the-new-tobacco-warnings-violate-1st-amendment-rights/593003/69):
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> I have disputed, and clearly debunked, your _factual errors_. This is the forum for discussing those, as you claimed that Bricker’s obviously false claims were accurate. See, for instance, the dozen seperate cites of me doing something that Bricker claimed I did not do, and you agreed that I did not do. Moderate to your heart’s content, but you can not claim that factual claims are the same as moderation.

Now, it’s true that **Marley** ’s instructions didn’t include “how [you were] not to disagree with Bricker’s description of [your] own words” but here’s the fascinating part: **that’s totally irrelevant!** Because even though you didn’t feel the instructions were fair, they were unambiguous: stop arguing with me about moderation in this thread. Responding to that instruction with further argument: immediate violation of said instruction.

That’s it! That’s the whole thing. No need for a thousand more words of blah blah, it couldn’t be more cut and dried.

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