# Marley23, can you clarify something. **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [February 10, 2011, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marley23-can-you-clarify-something/570852 "2011-02-10T03:14:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2011, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marley23-can-you-clarify-something/570852/21 "2011-02-10T19:58:09Z")
> [@CBEscapee](#): > > _“In some parts of the United States Anglo-American is shortened to Anglo and applied to White Americans who are not of Hispanic or Latino origin, and sometimes to those who are not of French origin.”_ > > From here:[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo) and here:[http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/anglo](http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/anglo) > > I was accused by LP of hating whites/anglos. LP was the one complaining about the dilution of his beloved and superior “white” culture. I don’t particularly care for the word white to distinguish caucasian Americans from Mexicans so I used a different word. Why that choice of word seems to be a problem or seems odd to some I have no idea. Oh, please. Enough with your Mexican hat dance. You’ve done the same thing using the word 'gringo" in the past. Your game is to try to paint anyone who wants to curtail immigration in any way as a racist. You’ve done it before, you’ll do it again. ---
**Author:** ![CBEscapee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b19c9b/32.png) [@CBEscapee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CBEscapee)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2011, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marley23-can-you-clarify-something/570852/22 "2011-02-10T20:03:42Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > And it was **CBEscapee** who injected “anglos” into the discussion with his very first post to LP: You need to get your facts straight. ---
**Author:** ![CBEscapee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b19c9b/32.png) [@CBEscapee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CBEscapee)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2011, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marley23-can-you-clarify-something/570852/23 "2011-02-10T20:13:03Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > Oh, please. Enough with your Mexican hat dance. You’ve done the same thing using the word 'gringo" in the past. Your game is to try to paint anyone who wants to curtail immigration in any way as a racist. You’ve done it before, you’ll do it again. Actually it is you who is trying to make something out of nothing. Are you now claiming “anglo” to be an ethnic slur? LP first used the term “anglo-american” in post 41. The word “anglo” was used by another poster long before I joined the thread. ---
**Author:** ![godix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/278dde/32.png) [@godix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/godix)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2011, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marley23-can-you-clarify-something/570852/24 "2011-02-10T21:12:13Z")
Just a note on my warning, which is in the same thread. A statement of “I will lose my civilization and my culture” due to immigrants was indeed racist, as was his claim the entire nation will be destroyed just like dem brown people did to LA or dem darkies did to Detroit. However the warning is fair in that I shouldn’t have engaged the racist in debate. Like civilized people, I should have just ignored him as well as quit visiting a site that thinks open hatred of a group because of the ethnicity or skin color is ok, but opposing that belief is not. ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2011, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marley23-can-you-clarify-something/570852/25 "2011-02-10T21:14:55Z")
> [@CBEscapee](#): > > Actually it is you who is trying to make something out of nothing. Are you now claiming “anglo” to be an ethnic slur? > > LP first used the term “anglo-american” in post 41. The word “anglo” was used by another poster long before I joined the thread. You know, I was all set to apologize for my mistake, but the truth of it is that he used the descriptive term “Anglo-American culture”, so, no. And the fact that you just misrepresented that does not speak well of you. And if you want to argue that those five letters were indeed used in that order in his post, go right ahead. Just keep dancing around that sombrero. And do you really think anyone believes that your use of the word had anything to do with the fact that the five letters appeared in a phrase used by LP _ten days_ and _two pages_ earlier before you got involved? Whew. As far as whether I think the term is necessarily offensive, I don’t. But I wasn’t the one moderating. If I was, you would have been the only one receiving a warning. Not for that, but for your personal insult in Post 132. Which is what should have been done. ---
**Author:** ![CBEscapee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b19c9b/32.png) [@CBEscapee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CBEscapee)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2011, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marley23-can-you-clarify-something/570852/26 "2011-02-10T21:23:47Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > You know, I was all set to apologize for my mistake, but the truth of it is that he used the descriptive term “Anglo-American culture”, so, no. And the fact that you just misrepresented that does not speak well of you. And if you want to argue that those five letters were indeed used in that order in his post, go right ahead. Just keep dancing around that sombrero. > > And do you really think anyone believes that your use of the word had anything to do with the fact that the five letters appeared in a phrase used by LP _ten days_ and _two pages_ earlier before you got involved? Whew. > > As far as whether I think the term is necessarily offensive, I don’t. But I wasn’t the one moderating. If I was, you would have been the only one receiving a warning. Not for that, but for your personal insult in Post 132. Which is what should have been done. Thanks for the laugh. You made a claim that I had introduced the word to the thread. I prove you wrong and you attempt a lame spin. Absolutely pathetic. And I could give a shit what you believe. ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2011, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marley23-can-you-clarify-something/570852/27 "2011-02-10T21:40:36Z")
> [@CBEscapee](#): > > Thanks for the laugh. You made a claim that I had introduced the word to the thread. I prove you wrong and you attempt a lame spin. Absolutely pathetic. > > And I could give a shit what you believe. wow, you really are going to go with, "but those five little letters appeared in the same order—10 days before you were involved in the discussion—and ignore the context. Why am I not surprised. Now let’s give you a little cultural test having nothing to do with horrible Anglos: are the terms African and African-American synonymous? ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2011, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marley23-can-you-clarify-something/570852/28 "2011-02-10T21:44:18Z")
> [@godix](#): > > Just a note on my warning, which is in the same thread. > > A statement of “I will lose my civilization and my culture” due to immigrants was indeed racist, as was his claim the entire nation will be destroyed just like dem brown people did to LA or dem darkies did to Detroit. However the warning is fair in that I shouldn’t have engaged the racist in debate. Like civilized people, I should have just ignored him as well as quit visiting a site that thinks open hatred of a group because of the ethnicity or skin color is ok, but opposing that belief is not. So, you’re calling him a racist in _this_ thread? Better watch out for Marley23. Oh wait, you’re on the liberal side of the debate. Never mind. ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2011, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marley23-can-you-clarify-something/570852/29 "2011-02-10T22:16:26Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > Note that **Really Not All That Bright** did not receive a warning for Post 115, and that LP was able to discuss things with her(him?) level-headedly. He did the same thing with **CBEscapee**. Problem is, **CBEscapee** clearly went over the line and had to be warned. But Marley23, for some strange reason felt the need to issue a warning to LP, as well. Well, it’s because LP, through hyperbole or not, accused CB of racism and ethnic cleansing/genocide/whatever. It’s never a good policy to engage on someone’s lowered level in GD. I didn’t notice the early bits of the thread, and maybe RNATB should have drawn down a Warning too. But once LP responded with anything more biting than “My, what a rational argument”, or whatever, he left himself open to the hammer of modly wrath. And yes, it’s somewhat silly, arbitrary and capricious. The same general insult may draw a slap on the wrist one day and a Warning the next. I suppose I’ve just gotten used to it, but actual Warnings in GD are somewhat rare. > [@Marley23](#): > > How many times were you accused of supporting ethnic cleansing? I don’t need an exact count, a guesstimate would be fine. This, however, is weird. Accusing someone of being a racist or homophobic is a personal insult, even if they don’t say that the person supports ethnic cleansing. ---
**Author:** ![CBEscapee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b19c9b/32.png) [@CBEscapee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CBEscapee)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2011, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marley23-can-you-clarify-something/570852/30 "2011-02-10T22:34:22Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > wow, you really are going to go with, "but those five little letters appeared in the same order—10 days before you were involved in the discussion—and ignore the context. Why am I not surprised. > > Now let’s give you a little cultural test having nothing to do with horrible Anglos: are the terms African and African-American synonymous? better idea. Learn the fucking language. \*An·glo noun \ˈaŋ-(ˌ)glō plural Anglos Definition of ANGLO 1: anglo-american 2: a white inhabitant of the United States of non-Hispanic descent — Anglo adjective See Anglo defined for English-language learners » Examples of ANGLO a committee with a mixture of blacks, Anglos, and Hispanics\* ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2011, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marley23-can-you-clarify-something/570852/31 "2011-02-10T23:57:33Z")
> [@CBEscapee](#): > > better idea. Learn the fucking language. > > \*An·glo noun \ˈaŋ-(ˌ)glō > plural Anglos > Definition of ANGLO > > 1: anglo-american > > 2: a white inhabitant of the United States of non-Hispanic descent > > — Anglo adjective > > See Anglo defined for English-language learners » > > Examples of ANGLO > > a committee with a mixture of blacks, Anglos, and Hispanics\* What? You seem to be under the impression that the term “anglo” is derogatory. I don’t. Only in your mind is that the case. Now how about you answer what was asked of you. ---
**Author:** ![TubaDiva](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tubadiva/32/507_2.png) [@TubaDiva](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TubaDiva)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2011, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marley23-can-you-clarify-something/570852/32 "2011-02-11T03:08:52Z")
This has degenerated into a fight. Which should be taken to the Pit. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marley23-can-you-clarify-something/570852.md?page=1)