# Marriage, Mexican Style - A Destination Wedding MMP

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marriage-mexican-style-a-destination-wedding-mmp/521212>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Tags:** mmp\
**Created:** [December 14, 2009, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marriage-mexican-style-a-destination-wedding-mmp/521212 "2009-12-14T14:38:59Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Taters](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/taters/32/2845_2.png) [@Taters](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Taters)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2009, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marriage-mexican-style-a-destination-wedding-mmp/521212/81 "2009-12-16T01:49:18Z")

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I was sorry to read about your co-worker, **Spaz.**

I hope you get your insurance woes squared away, **Dotty.**

I received a friend request today on Facebook. The problem is that I won’t know who it is unless I confirm the request. Nope, sorry, not gonna do that. I don’t friend people just to up my friend count and I sure as hell don’t friend someone who won’t tell me who he/she is up front. Maybe it’s because of the new security settings, but all the same, I won’t do it.

I stopped for lights for my tree tonight, so I should be able to finally finish decorating my tree.:rolleyes:

Other than that, I’ve got laundry and dinner on the agenda tonight.

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**Author:** ![Rebo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rebo/32/13005_2.png) [@Rebo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rebo)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2009, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marriage-mexican-style-a-destination-wedding-mmp/521212/82 "2009-12-16T02:38:34Z")

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I need to let y’all know that the Dope is now blocked at work. \<sob\>

I’ll check in as I can. I just don’t get on the 'puter much at night…

::goes off to read the thread::

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**Author:** ![Taters](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/taters/32/2845_2.png) [@Taters](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Taters)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2009, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marriage-mexican-style-a-destination-wedding-mmp/521212/83 "2009-12-16T02:43:22Z")

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Aw, that sucks, **rebo.** The Dope was blocked for me at work too, for a good long time, but somehow I got access again. It’s not like I post a lot from work, but I lurk there during a short break or lunch sometimes.

Dinner is nuking now. I should finish my tree, especially since I stopped and bought more lights. Sigh, just not feelin’ it.

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**Author:** ![dogbutler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dogbutler/32/428_2.png) [@dogbutler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dogbutler)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2009, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marriage-mexican-style-a-destination-wedding-mmp/521212/84 "2009-12-16T04:50:01Z")

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My [Festivus pole](http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e260/dogbutler/misc/001-1.jpg) is here!:D:D:D  
Bummer, **Rebo**. The entire IntarWeb is blocked at work for me.

Sorry about your co-worker, **Spaz**

**Tyger**! Long time no see!

**Rubel** , I’ll look into a roadtrip.

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**Author:** ![Dottygumdrop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ce73a5/32.png) [@Dottygumdrop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dottygumdrop)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2009, 8:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marriage-mexican-style-a-destination-wedding-mmp/521212/85 "2009-12-16T08:13:21Z")

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> [@Noone\_Special](#):
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> \*\*Dotty \*\*-- is the insurance company a purely local/Arab affair, or a subsidiary of a world-wide company? If the latter, you can probably raise hell with US/European HQ… :mad:

They are part of the Allianz group - worldwide HQ is in Germany. We will be pushing lots of buttons to make this right, believe me!

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**Author:** ![swampbear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/swampbear/32/467_2.png) [@swampbear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/swampbear)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2009, 9:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marriage-mexican-style-a-destination-wedding-mmp/521212/86 "2009-12-16T09:30:09Z")

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Good Mornin’ Y’all! Up and caffienatin’ _YAWN_

**Spaz** I’m sorry about your former co-worker.

Sic 'em **Dotty**!

**Muppet** I’m partial to Grape Jews myself. 😛

Ok, rumbly tummy wants to be fed.

Happy Wednesday Y’all!

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**Author:** ![Noone\_Special](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/noone_special/32/2863_2.png) [@Noone\_Special](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Noone_Special)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2009, 9:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marriage-mexican-style-a-destination-wedding-mmp/521212/87 "2009-12-16T09:45:33Z")

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> [@kopek](#):
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> Folks ------- I have this bad mental image of Anita Bryantt (sic?) doing the commercial with Noone as this little blue and white bird. Pardon me while I go scrub that out of my brain. 🙂

Can you provide a link to the original, for this non American-TV-watching ignoramus? 🙂  
(Also – is it blue and white in the original too, or are these colors in honor of my location?)

> [@SpazCat](#):
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> Sad news, everybody. Former Co-worker died this morning. Now I know someone who’s died of the flu. ☹ He deserved so much better.

{{{ **Spaz** }}} {Late Former Co-worker’s family}}}

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> And for no reason, here’s a picture illustrating [unfortunate phrasing](http://ryl.livejournal.com/735043.html).

Hee! 😃

> [@Dottygumdrop](#):
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> They are part of the Allianz group - worldwide HQ is in Germany. We will be pushing lots of buttons to make this right, believe me!

Go get them. For your own sake **and** as a public service!

Me, I’ve got nutt’n. One more week to work before going on Holiday Vacation (going to be in London Dec 24-28. Boxing Day Shopping, here we come!!!)

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**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2009, 9:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marriage-mexican-style-a-destination-wedding-mmp/521212/88 "2009-12-16T09:58:25Z")

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Dear Lord, you who on the somethingth-day went and created Translation and Interpretation due to some argument with the Builders’ Union, kindly allow me to be able to write French verbs half as well as I can read them, for two hours around 2pm UK time, day after tomorrow. Amen.

For some reason I keep trying to use the 2nd-person-plural forms as the 2nd-person-singular forms… arghhhhhh!

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**Author:** ![tarragon918](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d26b3c/32.png) [@tarragon918](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tarragon918)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2009, 10:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marriage-mexican-style-a-destination-wedding-mmp/521212/89 "2009-12-16T10:29:22Z")

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morning folks, up and caffeinating here… had a bit of brekkie too. 🙂 There’s a retirement party at work today and tomorrow is our holiday luncheon - off site at Ledo’s (pizza) restaurant. Let the good times roll! LOL well, as long as it’s not -me- doing the rolling. 😉

Happy Hump Day all!

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**Author:** ![Noone\_Special](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/noone_special/32/2863_2.png) [@Noone\_Special](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Noone_Special)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2009, 10:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marriage-mexican-style-a-destination-wedding-mmp/521212/90 "2009-12-16T10:40:46Z")

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> [@Nava](#):
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> Dear Lord, you who on the somethingth-day went and created Translation and Interpretation due to some argument with the Builders’ Union, kindly allow me to be able to write French verbs half as well as I can read them, for two hours around 2pm UK time, day after tomorrow. Amen.
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> For some reason I keep trying to use the 2nd-person-plural forms as the 2nd-person-singular forms… arghhhhhh!

WAG and IIRC - I’m pretty sure that unless you’re expressly required to use “Tu…”, this is almost always accpetable; Second Person Plural is used as the “Polite” form of Second Person Singular. Certainly, when addressing, e.g., your professor you should always ask them “Comment alez-vous?” and not “Comment vas-tu?”

This is the remainders of my High School French, from a previous millenium, though, so I’ll defer to **Muppet** , **ems** (through work in Paris) and possibly **Mork** on this…

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**Author:** ![dogbutler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dogbutler/32/428_2.png) [@dogbutler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dogbutler)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2009, 11:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marriage-mexican-style-a-destination-wedding-mmp/521212/91 "2009-12-16T11:08:23Z")

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Up, caffeinated, off to work. Hockey tonight

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**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2009, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marriage-mexican-style-a-destination-wedding-mmp/521212/92 "2009-12-16T13:14:10Z")

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> [@Noone\_Special](#):
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> WAG and IIRC - I’m pretty sure that unless you’re expressly required to use “Tu…”, this is almost always accpetable; Second Person Plural is used as the “Polite” form of Second Person Singular. Certainly, when addressing, e.g., your professor you should always ask them “Comment alez-vous?” and not “Comment vas-tu?”

I’ve been thinking that may be part of the problem: most of my interactions in France were polite, so I’m used to adressing everybody as “vous.” But this is conjugations so yes, I have to remember how to drop the politeness. The year of Official Language School was earlier and we never did conjugations as such.

It’s weird/interesting/funny/😕/😛 that apparently right now translation is “out” as a language-teaching method, I guess from all that crap about “natural learning,” but we get to conjugate verbs _and to give them names that are wrong_. “Le conditionnel” isn’t a tense, it’s a mode; when the grammar teacher uses that word she’s actually talking about “le present simple du conditionnel.”

Tu continues à utiliser ce mot. Je ne pense pas que cela signifie ce que vous pensez que cela signifie. (I cheated, it’s from Google translations)

ETA: Hah! I found the actual translation! Tu emploies toujours ce mot, je ne sais pas s’il veut dire ce que tu penses.

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**Author:** ![anyrose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/54ee81/32.png) [@anyrose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anyrose)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2009, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marriage-mexican-style-a-destination-wedding-mmp/521212/93 "2009-12-16T13:16:55Z")

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and without using a translator, I know exactly what it says (hooray for 3 years of HS French classes - and a little intuition) 😉

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**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2009, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marriage-mexican-style-a-destination-wedding-mmp/521212/94 "2009-12-16T13:22:00Z")

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… I think I’m going to get that line embroidered or something, it’s SO appropriate as a reminder for translators… or make me a poster with it in I-wonder-how-many-languages-can-I-find-it-in…

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**Author:** ![anyrose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/54ee81/32.png) [@anyrose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anyrose)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2009, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marriage-mexican-style-a-destination-wedding-mmp/521212/95 "2009-12-16T13:54:12Z")

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dutch: Waarom houdt u gebruikend dat woord? Ik denk niet het betekent wat u het denkt betekent.

german: Warum halten Sie, dieses Wort zu verwenden? Ich denke nicht, es bedeutet, dass was denken Sie, bedeutet es.

greek: Γιατί συνεχίζετε εκείνη την λέξη; Δεν σκέφτομαι ότι σημαίνει τι σκέφτεστε αυτό σημαίνει.

italian: Perché continu aare usando quella parola? Non penso significhi che che cosa pensate significa.

japanese: なぜその単語を使用し続けるか。 私は考えるものを意味することを考えない意味する。

portoguese: Por que você se mantem usar essa palavra? Eu não penso significa que o que você pensa significa.

russian: Почему вы держите использовать то слово? Я не думаю что он значит что вы думаете оно значит.

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**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2009, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marriage-mexican-style-a-destination-wedding-mmp/521212/96 "2009-12-16T13:57:27Z")

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But I want the official versions.

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**Author:** ![Noone\_Special](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/noone_special/32/2863_2.png) [@Noone\_Special](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Noone_Special)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2009, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marriage-mexican-style-a-destination-wedding-mmp/521212/97 "2009-12-16T14:01:38Z")

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> [@Nava](#):
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> … I think I’m going to get that line embroidered or something, it’s SO appropriate as a reminder for translators… or make me a poster with it in I-wonder-how-many-languages-can-I-find-it-in…

I think your best bet is to find a compendium of subtitles for The Princess Bride…

ETA: I knew you’d want the official versions… 🙂 One geek to another…

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**Author:** ![anyrose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/54ee81/32.png) [@anyrose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anyrose)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2009, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marriage-mexican-style-a-destination-wedding-mmp/521212/98 "2009-12-16T14:07:03Z")

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you mean [like this?](http://www.subtitleseeker.com/0093779/The+Princess+Bride/Subtitles/)

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**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2009, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marriage-mexican-style-a-destination-wedding-mmp/521212/99 "2009-12-16T14:10:01Z")

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No, subtitles often aren’t the same as the spoken version. Just watch any movie in English with English subtitles.

I appreciate the offers of help, really, it’s just that I’m having an attack of “I want it Just So!!!eleventy!!”

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**Author:** ![Noone\_Special](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/noone_special/32/2863_2.png) [@Noone\_Special](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Noone_Special)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2009, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marriage-mexican-style-a-destination-wedding-mmp/521212/100 "2009-12-16T14:12:45Z")

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I don’t think the phrase ever really made it into Hebrew Pop Culture – so the closest you’ll get to the “Official” translation _is_ whatever the translator put in Inigo’s mouth in the Hebrew Subtitles…

YMMV for other languages / cultures, I suippose.

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