Just wondering…do we have any V. C. Andrews fans out there?
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I second bibliophage. pluto, don’t get all goofy on that mickey mouse writer.
JayLa: although not adopted siblings, think about Woody Allen and his recent marriage.
And finally: if you can’t keep it in your pants, keep it in the family.
I’ll be here all week. Enjoy the veal!
lol … close, Guinastasia. It happened in an Agatha Christie book I was reading last week.
thanks jamshid, I forgot about ol’ Woody and his convoluted family tree. I guess that pretty much answers my question.
we now return you to your regularly scheduled marriage-to-cousins thread …
In Wisconsin first cousins can marry if the woman is over 55 or one of them have been sterilzed.
Wisconsin and Indiana. Anyone else?
Nothin’ says lovin’ like doin’ it with your cousin.
Sorry. I distinctly remember previewing that post and the happyyid wasn’t in there then. 
Wisconsin statute 765.03
Indiana code 31-11-1-2
It’s not my cup of tea, but I’ve heard it said that:
Incest is best kept in the family.
Since Mainsfield Park was mentioned, let me add another literary reference of Kissin’ Cousins (no, not the Elvis movie… but you know, when I was a kid, I always thought they were showing a porno when that was on. Boy was I disappointed when I finally checked it out.)
In Frankenstein, Victor and Elizabeth are cousins and were both raised by Victor’s father so she’s more like a sister.
You’re not kidding it isn’t funny. Queen Elizabeth herself has two female cousins who are severely retarded. I mean something like single-digit IQs. They’ve been hidden away in institutions all their lives; it was a scandal when the exposé on them was published several years ago. In the photograph, they bore a strikingly close resemblance to the queen herself - except they had that blank drooling-imbecile look. A truly disturbing sight.
This and even more disturbing examples of royal inbreeding are described in Alex Shoumatoff’s excellent book on genealogy, The Mountain of Names.
You MIGHT be a redneck if…Your family tree doesn’t fork
You MIGHT be a redneck if…You consider dating second cousins as “playing the field”
As to royal family inbreeding:
IIRC, Juan Carlos of Spain is no less than 4 times descended from Queen Victoria, twice through the Greek(Danish) royal house, and once through Queen May of Teck/George V, and once through Queen Alix of Denmark/Edward VII.
You can do your own geneological research on the Royal House(s) of Europe using:
hey, iirc, the egyptian pharoahs at various stages in their history married their sisters to echo beliefs about the gods/creation myths & also to strengthen claims to throne/not have nephews hanging around to rebel etc…
now that is yuck, but I don’t understand the ban on adopted siblings marrying (although I’d say that they had to be say…20, so they have had some time outside the family home & a chance to meet other people…) or the yuck factor everyone has for the cousin thing!
“Not playing to win is like sleeping with your sister. Sure, she’s a great piece of tail with a blouse full of goodies, but it’s just illegal.”
(to the tune of “Be Our Guest” from Beauty and the Beast)
Incest is best
Incest is best
Put your brother to the test
Tie his arms up to the bedpost
And you supply the rest!
Hehehe…
the Queen’s uncle, the youngest child of King George V and Queen Mary, Prince John, was born a severe epileptic…he was kept locked away and the only member of the family to visit him was his grandmother, the dowager Queen Alexandra.
He died during a seizure at the age of 14.
Most of Juan Carlos’s uncles were hemophiliacs and one was deaf, I believe…his grandmother, Queen Ena of Spain was a carrier, from her mother, the Princess Beatrice.
Then, if you look at pictures of the family, some of Victoria’s grandchildren looked very dull faced and pop-eyed. Of course, many of them were quite beautiful-but most of them were plain and dull. They looked like frogs…
Hell, I just remembered Prince Albert Victor, the Duke of Clarence, or “Eddy” as he was called in the family (Prince Albert Victor Christian Edward)…the eldest son of Edward VII…Eddy was certainly slow, and most believe today that he was mentally retarded. He certainly didn’t learn much, and only cared for women and carousing…(some people even think he may have been Jack the Ripper, though this is unlikely). Eddy died in 1892 of “pneumonia” (probably syphillis, actually). Most consider this a blessing in disguise-he would’ve been King instead of George V. (Victoria wanted him to marry Alix of Hesse, who later became the Tsarina of Russia, but she refused-good thing, hemophilia would’ve come down into the BRITISH family-he was then engaged to Princess Victoria Mary of Teck, and when he died, a year later, May, as she was called, married Eddy’s brother, Prince George…she later became Queen Mary.)
Whew!
Cousin marriages seem to have been quite acceptable in the
British aristocracy. I can think of several examples from
the stories of P.G.Wodehouse, where overbearing aunts or parents wanted their daughters/neices to marry cousins rather
than the completely unsuitable men they preferred. Of course
in the case of Aunts I don’t think the preferred cousin
was ever her own son.
The yuck factor for adoptive siblings raised together would be about the same as for biological siblings raised together. Incest taboos are only partially based on biology.Some societies prefer that certain cousins marry (you should marry your father’s brother’s child) while prohibiting others ( you can’t marry your mother’s brother’s child) although the shared genes will be the same in either case. The yuck factor for cousins probably depends on close you are to them. I suspect people who don’t understand the cousin factor had nowhere near as much contact with their cousins I did. When I was a kid,almost all of my first cousins ( 10 out of 12)lived within 15 minutes of my house. The only people I saw more than them when I was young were my siblings. If I saw them once or twice a year I probably wouldn’t understand the yuck factor either.My yuck factor would even go to my mother’s first cousin’s kids ( saw them a lot, too), although I suspect almost no one else ( except for them) would go that far.
The Woody situation wasn’t an adoptive anything. Mia adopted Soon -Yi on her own, without Woody. He was just her mother’s boyfriend, although he apparently played the role of stepfather (and a stepfather is not necessarily an adoptive father, either)
I dunno, we have quite a bit of imbecility here in America, too…
::snicker::
Weren’t there a lot of cousins married in “Gone with the Wind,” too? I know that’s hardly a historical reference, but still…
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Why would they have problems menstruating? That’s shedding a lining…not actually bleeding as a result of blood vessels being opened.
Hm. Anything is possible, I guess.
Because the lining itself would never clot.
It’s not a problem with blood vessels breaking, persay, it’s that the blood is unable to clot properly in a hemophiliac.
Which is why internal bleeding is more serious than external-which can be bandaged and pressured.
The lining itself wouldn’t thicken and form a clot…it would simply flow unchecked.