# Marrying You Mother for Tax Purposes

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marrying-you-mother-for-tax-purposes/486003>\
**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [February 15, 2009, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marrying-you-mother-for-tax-purposes/486003 "2009-02-15T23:01:13Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Si\_Amigo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/si_amigo/32/2877_2.png) [@Si\_Amigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Si_Amigo)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2009, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marrying-you-mother-for-tax-purposes/486003/1 "2009-02-15T23:01:13Z")

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Why Not? Dad has pasted on and Mom is 78 and on a fixed income. Say that I am (theoretically) 50, divorced with no kids, no home ownership and making over $100K a year. Basically I’d just be giving about $19K to the tax man and getting no return.  
I love mom but can I marry her for just for tax purposes? Have people actually tried this?

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**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2009, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marrying-you-mother-for-tax-purposes/486003/2 "2009-02-15T23:04:06Z")

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It has to be a legal marriage, and no state allows a mother to marry a son.

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**Author:** ![UltraVires](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ecccb3/32.png) [@UltraVires](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UltraVires)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2009, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marrying-you-mother-for-tax-purposes/486003/3 "2009-02-15T23:13:08Z")

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I see a gay marriage debate in 3…2…1…

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**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2009, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marrying-you-mother-for-tax-purposes/486003/4 "2009-02-15T23:21:43Z")

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There are cases of people getting divorced for tax or financial reasons only, they just continue to live together with no changes in their romantic relationship.

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**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2009, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marrying-you-mother-for-tax-purposes/486003/5 "2009-02-15T23:35:09Z")

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If you and your mother are shtupping each other, just go ahead and do it, without the tax benefits.

Marriage between a man and his mother is illegal; I’m sure the IRS is aware of that.

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**Author:** ![KnitWit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f0a364/32.png) [@KnitWit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KnitWit)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2009, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marrying-you-mother-for-tax-purposes/486003/6 "2009-02-15T23:36:22Z")

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Dad has pasted on? How did he do that?

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**Author:** ![Belowjob2.0](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Belowjob2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Belowjob2.0)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2009, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marrying-you-mother-for-tax-purposes/486003/7 "2009-02-15T23:37:50Z")

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It’s a little known provision of the tax code that marriages like these must be consummated in front of an IRS inspector.

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**Author:** ![Dahu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dahu/32/3416_2.png) [@Dahu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dahu)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2009, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marrying-you-mother-for-tax-purposes/486003/8 "2009-02-15T23:47:06Z")

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Here in the UK there is no Inheritance Tax to pay on transfers between spouses in the event of one dying (otherwise it’s generally 40%).

In theory, a daughter who really really really trusted her boyfriend, could get him to marry her (widowed) mother. Then when the mother dies, he would collect the family fortune tax-free and be free to marry the daughter and live happily ever after.

At least, I can’t see anything illegal with this. Don’t know if it’s ever actually happened though.

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**Author:** ![magnusblitz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b4bc9f/32.png) [@magnusblitz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magnusblitz)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2009, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marrying-you-mother-for-tax-purposes/486003/9 "2009-02-15T23:48:20Z")

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Assuming the OP isn’t just a whoosh or a strawman for something else (I suspect **jtgain** might be correct in his guess)… why SHOULD you be able to get a tax break for no reason?

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**Author:** ![Mr.Excellent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f19dbf/32.png) [@Mr.Excellent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Excellent)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2009, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marrying-you-mother-for-tax-purposes/486003/10 "2009-02-16T00:00:42Z")

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I believe that the Greek city of Thebes actually attempted this, with decidedly poor results. The IRS is surprisingly well-informed on comparative law issues, and would probably try to discourage you for this reason, if no other.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2009, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marrying-you-mother-for-tax-purposes/486003/11 "2009-02-16T00:07:18Z")

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> [@](#):
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> I believe that the Greek city of Thebes actually attempted this, with decidedly poor results.

Leading to the famous Oedipus Tax.

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**Author:** ![Telcontar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3bc359/32.png) [@Telcontar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telcontar)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2009, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marrying-you-mother-for-tax-purposes/486003/12 "2009-02-16T00:11:56Z")

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> [@Dahu](#):
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> Here in the UK there is no Inheritance Tax to pay on transfers between spouses in the event of one dying (otherwise it’s generally 40%).
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> In theory, a daughter who really really really trusted her boyfriend, could get him to marry her (widowed) mother. Then when the mother dies, he would collect the family fortune tax-free and be free to marry the daughter and live happily ever after.
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> At least, I can’t see anything illegal with this. Don’t know if it’s ever actually happened though.

This would be…fascinating. I wonder if it would be really legal, as in other contexts marrying to “trick” the government is usually barred (immigration for example).

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**Author:** ![Markxxx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5daacb/32.png) [@Markxxx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Markxxx)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2009, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marrying-you-mother-for-tax-purposes/486003/13 "2009-02-16T00:49:57Z")

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As “Miss Jane” explained to Jed, (who wondered why anyone wouldn’t want to pay his fair share of taxes)

“It’s OK to _AVOID_ paying taxes so long as you don’t _EVADE_ paying them.”

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**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2009, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marrying-you-mother-for-tax-purposes/486003/14 "2009-02-16T02:07:24Z")

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> [@Belowjob2.0](#):
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> It’s a little known provision of the tax code that marriages like these must be consummated in front of an IRS inspector.

Only if it’s mother/daughter.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Excellent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f19dbf/32.png) [@Mr.Excellent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Excellent)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2009, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marrying-you-mother-for-tax-purposes/486003/15 "2009-02-16T02:19:51Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> Leading to the famous Oedipus Tax.

Fortunately, you do have some options. Many people set up accounts in Colonus as a tax shelter.

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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2009, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marrying-you-mother-for-tax-purposes/486003/16 "2009-02-16T04:27:06Z")

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As a somewhat serious response - why not claim the mother as a dependant? Head of household type of filing… that would be, I think (just a layman here), the correct way to do things.

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**Author:** ![AllWalker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/db5fbb/32.png) [@AllWalker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AllWalker)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2009, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marrying-you-mother-for-tax-purposes/486003/17 "2009-02-16T04:48:30Z")

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This has to be the first GQ thread title that made me laugh out loud.

Very nice.

The question is: even if you could, would it be worth it? Women don’t like guys who _live_ with their mothers, after all… how would you get laid again?

And… I just thought of an answer to my second question, and so now I need to get get very, _very_ drunk.

Cheers.

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**Author:** ![Sunspace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunspace/32/1250_2.png) [@Sunspace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunspace)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2009, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marrying-you-mother-for-tax-purposes/486003/18 "2009-02-16T04:59:54Z")

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I’d rather spend a year dead for tax purposes.

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**Author:** ![Dervorin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Dervorin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dervorin)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2009, 10:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marrying-you-mother-for-tax-purposes/486003/19 "2009-02-16T10:10:03Z")

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> [@Sunspace](#):
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> I’d rather spend a year dead for tax purposes.

Right this way, Mr. Desiato, we have your spaceship waiting.

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**Author:** ![Laudenum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7993a0/32.png) [@Laudenum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Laudenum)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2009, 11:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marrying-you-mother-for-tax-purposes/486003/20 "2009-02-16T11:47:44Z")

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> [@KnitWit](#):
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> Dad has pasted on? How did he do that?

A tragic accident involving a steamroller.

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