# Martial artists: what was this blow?

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**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [October 9, 2010, 12:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martial-artists-what-was-this-blow/556600 "2010-10-09T12:38:01Z")\
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**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2010, 12:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martial-artists-what-was-this-blow/556600/1 "2010-10-09T12:38:01Z")

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In [this deeply satisfying video](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XeF72zLjNU) a guy being goaded into a fight on his doorstep by a [chav](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chav) lands a single two-handed blow on the yob’s head (around 2:30) that is clearly so unpleasant that the thug is instantly floored, and retreats.

It looks like he might have clapped the guy’s ears, but I wondered if it was something more subtle. Any ideas? According to the papers, the guy studies karate and jiu-jitsu if that’s any help.

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**Author:** ![Lust4Life](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ecc23a/32.png) [@Lust4Life](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lust4Life)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2010, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martial-artists-what-was-this-blow/556600/2 "2010-10-09T13:26:48Z")

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Can’t help you but it was a deeply satisfying video.

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**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2010, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martial-artists-what-was-this-blow/556600/3 "2010-10-09T13:26:50Z")

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I can’t watch the video (I’m at work) but it’s most likely an ear clap. If you’ve ever received or administered one you know it’ll fuck someone up pretty good. Unlikely to do any real damage, but properly done will certainly disorient and stun anyone.

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**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2010, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martial-artists-what-was-this-blow/556600/4 "2010-10-09T13:48:28Z")

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I’m so cynical about videos these days I really have to ask if any of them are real. It looked real, but every time you buy into one of these 'real life" scenarios invariably there’s a “Ha! Ha! You were punked” statement after the fact.

Assuming it’s real it does show quite clearly why gun murder rates are lower in Britain. If there was a gun available to me and I was being threatened like that the wife-beater guy would have been dead about 1 minute into the video.

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**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2010, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martial-artists-what-was-this-blow/556600/5 "2010-10-09T13:58:30Z")

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Now I see this in the attachment. It’s like a low rent Steven Segal fantasy.The “it’s a setup” detector is pinging.

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> A DAD seen flattening a yob in a clip sweeping the internet was yesterday unmasked as an ex-soldier - with TWO black belts. Gulf War veteran Jason Smith, 35, who said: “He deserved it.” Burly Jason - a 15st master in karate and jiu-jitsu - was filmed felling the foul-mouthed idiot outside his home as a crowd gathered. Jason, who has been a bodyguard to stars, had no idea why local “hard nut” Les Andrews stood on his step ranting and raving in St Helens, Merseyside. He decked him with a single blow. Wife Rebecca, 23, who had cowered with 22-month daughter Boudiccia, said: “I was proud.” Andrews, 23, was arrested and hit with a curfew for yobbery. Jason said of becoming a web sensation: “People sick of yob culture enjoy seeing someone turn the tables.” (dads 1 - punks 0)

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**Author:** ![Busy\_Scissors](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d78d45/32.png) [@Busy\_Scissors](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Busy_Scissors)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2010, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martial-artists-what-was-this-blow/556600/6 "2010-10-09T14:03:43Z")

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He could have clapped the lad’s ear with his right - it might just be the overhand left to the bonce that’s put him down though, hard to tell. The scally leans right into him with his head so is really begging to be put on his back. Talk about a whipped cur, he drags his arse out of the place like a beaten dog.

See how the guy remains stoic throughout until his wheelie bin gets mishandled. You don’t mess with an Englishman’s wheelie bin.

ETA I saw this vid ages back, is it only now getting popular? I can confirm that people like that young dickhead do exist in St Helens, so it seems quite plausible tbh.

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**Author:** ![pravnik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8edcca/32.png) [@pravnik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pravnik)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2010, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martial-artists-what-was-this-blow/556600/7 "2010-10-09T15:31:52Z")

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Looks like an ear clap.

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**Author:** ![KarlGauss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/karlgauss/32/3713_2.png) [@KarlGauss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGauss)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2010, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martial-artists-what-was-this-blow/556600/8 "2010-10-09T19:40:03Z")

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I don’t know what the move was, but it wasn’t as cool as [this one](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WReevc7P0lA&feature=related) that took out another bully.

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**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2010, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martial-artists-what-was-this-blow/556600/9 "2010-10-10T00:38:25Z")

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> [@jjimm](#):
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> It looks like he might have clapped the guy’s ears, but I wondered if it was something more subtle. Any ideas? According to the papers, the guy studies karate and jiu-jitsu if that’s any help.

That’s what it was. An earclap is excruciatingly painful and if done correctly, it’ll rupture an eardrum. I don’t think that the guy got a good enough shot in to do that much damage, but it certainly stunned and disoriented the jerk attacking him.

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**Author:** ![Superhal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Superhal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superhal)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2010, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martial-artists-what-was-this-blow/556600/10 "2010-10-10T00:43:10Z")

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It looks like just a punch to the face, impossible to tell what actually happened from that angle.

But, getting nearly knocked out by a single blow is not uncommon.

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**Author:** ![Enter\_the\_Flagon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Enter\_the\_Flagon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enter_the_Flagon)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2010, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martial-artists-what-was-this-blow/556600/11 "2010-10-10T01:43:03Z")

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If you watch his left hand after the strike, it’s apparent that he’s rechambering a closed fist.

So our hero, a leftie BTW, has felled said chav with a punch to the head or neck. It sure took a lot of prodding to make him do it, too - how many of us could’ve shown so much restraint?

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**Author:** ![China\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/779978/32.png) [@China\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/China_Guy)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2010, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martial-artists-what-was-this-blow/556600/12 "2010-10-10T02:29:05Z")

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Perp looked prime for a glasgow kiss or a knee to the heuvos rancheros

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**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2010, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martial-artists-what-was-this-blow/556600/13 "2010-10-11T14:35:41Z")

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It’s the Magiver Two Handed Double Force Intersecting Shockwave Chimpanzee Defense blow.

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**Author:** ![Enter\_the\_Flagon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Enter\_the\_Flagon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enter_the_Flagon)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2010, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martial-artists-what-was-this-blow/556600/14 "2010-10-11T14:59:35Z")

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> [@muldoonthief](#):
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> It’s the Magiver Two Handed Double Force Intersecting Shockwave Chimpanzee Defense blow.

The old MTHDFISCDB?

Probably not. Correct application of the MTHDFISCDB would’ve resulted in the young chav’s head popping like a balloon.

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**Author:** ![Darth\_Panda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ee7513/32.png) [@Darth\_Panda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Panda)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2010, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martial-artists-what-was-this-blow/556600/15 "2010-10-11T15:17:42Z")

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> [@Enter\_the\_Flagon](#):
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> > [@muldoonthief](#):
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> > It’s the Magiver Two Handed Double Force Intersecting Shockwave Chimpanzee Defense blow.
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> The old MTHDFISCDB?
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> Probably not. Correct application of the MTHDFISCDB would’ve resulted in the young chav’s head popping like a balloon.

It requires (twice the amount of) no force and sends all primates to their doom!

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**Author:** ![yojimbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yojimbo/32/232_2.png) [@yojimbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yojimbo)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2010, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martial-artists-what-was-this-blow/556600/16 "2010-10-11T15:19:17Z")

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I like this one.

[![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/-yvU6sifwkI/hqdefault.jpg "'Drag queen' cage fighters defend themselves against thugs") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yvU6sifwkI&t=1m15s)

Cage fighters out on a stag night dressed up in drag. Some drunken idiots decide to get a bit of fag bashing in. Not a great decision. Two quick uppercuts from behind and two of them go down fast.

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**Author:** ![PlainJain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5daacb/32.png) [@PlainJain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PlainJain)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2010, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martial-artists-what-was-this-blow/556600/17 "2010-10-11T16:50:50Z")

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> [@muldoonthief](#):
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> It’s the Magiver Two Handed Double Force Intersecting Shockwave Chimpanzee Defense blow.

Darn, beaten to it!

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**Author:** ![RedSwinglineOne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a9adbd/32.png) [@RedSwinglineOne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedSwinglineOne)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2010, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martial-artists-what-was-this-blow/556600/18 "2010-10-11T16:58:32Z")

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> [@yojimbo](#):
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> . Two quick uppercuts from behind and two of them go down fast.

Sweet. He didn’t even drop his purse.

[67 year old Vietnam vet beats up punk on bus.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0C5KQYKyMk&feature=related)

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**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2010, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martial-artists-what-was-this-blow/556600/19 "2010-10-11T18:55:51Z")

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> [@KarlGauss](#):
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> I don’t know what the move was, but it wasn’t as cool as [this one](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WReevc7P0lA&feature=related) that took out another bully.

“Come out with your pants down!”

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**Author:** ![Kal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9de053/32.png) [@Kal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kal)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2010, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martial-artists-what-was-this-blow/556600/20 "2010-10-11T20:47:08Z")

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> [@RedSwinglineOne](#):
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> [67 year old Vietnam vet beats up punk on bus.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0C5KQYKyMk&feature=related)

I like the potentially more correct title mentioned in a [Cracked.com article](http://www.cracked.com/article_18725_the-truth-about-epic-beard-man-viral-video.html): “Bi-Polar 67 Year Old Beats Crap Out of Much Smaller 50 Year Old”.
