# Martial Law in Today's America - daily report

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martial-law-in-todays-america-daily-report/1022021>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [August 14, 2025, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martial-law-in-todays-america-daily-report/1022021 "2025-08-14T02:43:23Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2025, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martial-law-in-todays-america-daily-report/1022021/201 "2025-10-10T20:29:27Z")

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I’ve seen worse than that in my alley. Does that mean the Armpit of Puget Sound is next?

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2025, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martial-law-in-todays-america-daily-report/1022021/202 "2025-10-10T21:02:30Z")

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> [@OttoDaFe](#):
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> Does that mean the Armpit of Puget Sound is next?

Seattle mayor Bruce Harrell is poking the bear, so probably.

> **[Seattle mayor announces National Guard defense plan, issues executive orders](https://www.fox13seattle.com/news/seattle-mayor-harrell-signs-executive-orders-federal-troops)**
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> Seattle Mayor Bruce Harrell signed two executive orders to define the city’s response to any potential National Guard deployment and to strengthen protections for immigrants and refugees.

> The first executive order aims to separate Seattle police operations from any federal activities. It directs city departments to coordinate with the Washington attorney general and governor while supporting peaceful demonstrations.

> The second order focuses on supporting immigrants and refugees. Harrell said those communities are “the fabric of Seattle,” and he emphasized that city property should not be used for federal immigration enforcement.

> The order also restricts the use of face masks by Seattle police, requiring visible identification except in limited situations. Officers will receive training on how to respond to incidents involving masked individuals.

The orders are targeted specifically at frustrating ICE’s plans to terrorize people in the city. Trump will not like that at all.

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2025, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martial-law-in-todays-america-daily-report/1022021/203 "2025-10-10T21:17:42Z")

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The Seattle police won’t either. Outsiders see the Emerald City as another squishy super-liberal city, but as a resident you know Seattle’s cops are fucking _horrible._ They’ll be fractious about not getting to join ICE and the occupying troops in knocking brown-skinned heads.

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**Author:** ![echoreply](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/echoreply/32/3641_2.png) [@echoreply](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/echoreply)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2025, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martial-law-in-todays-america-daily-report/1022021/204 "2025-10-10T21:46:16Z")

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> [@Cervaise](#):
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> Seattle’s cops are fucking _horrible_

Cops are always willing to get violent with protestors. No need for the national guard if all you want to do is shoot out some eyes with plastic bullets or tear gas old people.

> [@Cervaise](#):
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> They’ll be fractious about not getting to join ICE and the occupying troops in knocking brown-skinned heads

ICE is running commercials on TV which advertise this _exact_ thing. “Sorry that as a member of the \<your city here\> police force that you don’t get to beat-up brown people?\[1\] Come join ICE and get a $50,000 signing bonus.”

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1. the actual words are something about “protecting your city”, but we all know what they mean

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2025, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martial-law-in-todays-america-daily-report/1022021/205 "2025-10-10T21:47:42Z")

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> [@Cervaise](#):
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> The Seattle police won’t either.

Yeah, there will be some guaranteed pushback from SPD on this.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2025, 6:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martial-law-in-todays-america-daily-report/1022021/206 "2025-10-11T06:22:25Z")

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Tacoma?

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**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2025, 6:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martial-law-in-todays-america-daily-report/1022021/207 "2025-10-11T06:34:55Z")

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Got it in one.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2025, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martial-law-in-todays-america-daily-report/1022021/208 "2025-10-11T17:40:59Z")

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> [@echoreply](#):
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> > [@Cervaise](#):
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> > Seattle’s cops are fucking _horrible_
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> Cops are always willing to get violent with protestors. No need for the national guard if all you want to do is shoot out some eyes with plastic bullets or tear gas old people.
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> > [@Cervaise](#):
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> > They’ll be fractious about not getting to join ICE and the occupying troops in knocking brown-skinned heads
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> ICE is running commercials on TV which advertise this _exact_ thing. “Sorry that as a member of the \<your city here\> police force that you don’t get to beat-up brown people?\[1\] Come join ICE and get a $50,000 signing bonus.”

I don’t watch OTA TV, but I’ve been getting those ads in the _YouTube_ videos I do watch.

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1. the actual words are something about “protecting your city”, but we all know what they mean

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2025, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martial-law-in-todays-america-daily-report/1022021/209 "2025-10-11T19:36:02Z")

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The armpit of Puget Sound is Tukwila. Tacoma lost that privilege.

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**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2025, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martial-law-in-todays-america-daily-report/1022021/210 "2025-10-11T19:41:54Z")

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This is a very good opinion piece on the situation in Memphis. We are getting lots of reports on numbers but nothing explaining how those numbers are actually affecting crime in the city.

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> In the weeks since the launch of the Memphis Safe Community Task Force, one thing has become increasingly clear: there was never a concrete public safety strategy laid out — but there _is_ a communications strategy. Or, at least, there’s been an effective narrative machine that benefits from the absence of one.
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> From the very beginning, there was no public briefing that outlined how success would be measured, which agencies would lead which components, or how different arms of law enforcement and government would coordinate their work. There was no press push to demand these details either. I asked these questions directly but never received an honest or concrete response. That vacuum left room for a dangerous sleight of hand: letting daily press releases _become_ the story instead of the actual outcomes on the ground.

[How the Memphis Safe Task Force is controlling the narrative • Tennessee Lookout](https://tennesseelookout.com/2025/10/09/how-the-memphis-safe-task-force-is-controlling-the-narrative/)

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**Author:** ![LoneRhino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lonerhino/32/1311_2.png) [@LoneRhino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LoneRhino)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2025, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martial-law-in-todays-america-daily-report/1022021/211 "2025-10-12T19:55:18Z")

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> [@Tierce](#):
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> I totally misread that as “sending the National Guard into **Poland**.”

Slow down. One step at a time.

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**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2025, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martial-law-in-todays-america-daily-report/1022021/212 "2025-10-12T20:32:58Z")

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> [@aurora\_maire](#):
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> How the Memphis Safe Task Force is controlling the narrative

Here’s an example of local reporting. Harbor Town is on an island just north of downtown. There’s a bridge that’s the only way in or out. One of the wealthiest areas of Memphis, crime is not really a problem there. Well, except for this guy.

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> For some, the added presence is welcome. Harbor Town resident Chris Brock said he supports the move, even after being pulled over by the Memphis Safe Task Force.
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> “It’s a good thing,” Brock said. “I was speeding. I was guilty, so I’m glad they’re here doing these things to make Memphis a safer place for the community.”

Yay. They are making the island safer from dumbasses like you. Good to know.

> **[National Guard begins Memphis patrols amid rising tensions | Residents react...](https://www.localmemphis.com/article/news/local/national-guard-begins-memphis-patrols-tensions-military-presence/522-1e378d61-c1a7-44b6-860a-a35aecd26522?tbref=hp)**
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> Dozens of National Guard troops officially put boots on the ground in Harbor Town

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**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2025, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martial-law-in-todays-america-daily-report/1022021/213 "2025-10-14T22:59:38Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> I’m unwilling to actually watch Fox to find out … have any of the media actually put a reporter on the ground in Portland? or Chicago? All the videos I’ve seen have been amateur cell phone videos.

One of those amateur cell phone videos was of a WGN (Chicago channel 9) TV reporter face down on the pavement being arrested/zip tied/trussed up by ICE while she shouted out her name and employer, beseeching on lookers to notify the station before she was literally dragged away.

So yes, there are local reporters on the ground. Some of them are being detained by ICE,

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2025, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martial-law-in-todays-america-daily-report/1022021/214 "2025-10-14T23:50:33Z")

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> [@Broomstick](#):
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> So yes, there are local reporters on the ground.

They don’t all have to take it so **literally** though.

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**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2025, 11:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martial-law-in-todays-america-daily-report/1022021/215 "2025-10-15T11:43:03Z")

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Thank you for eliciting a chuckle in these very dark times.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2025, 7:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martial-law-in-todays-america-daily-report/1022021/216 "2025-10-23T07:35:33Z")

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[San Francisco is the next target.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/exclusive-major-federal-immigration-operation-224813873.html)

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> The Trump administration on Wednesday dispatched more than 100 federal agents, including from U.S. Customs and Border Protection, to a U.S. Coast Guard base in the East Bay, marking the beginning of a long-threatened immigration crackdown on the region.
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> The Coast Guard and a source familiar with the operation confirmed the surge of federal agents, who are expected to begin arriving Thursday. The decision was seen as a likely precursor to President Donald Trump deploying National Guard troops to San Francisco, mirroring similar immigration operations in other cities around the nation.
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> The crackdowns have alarmed undocumented immigrants and those close to them. In previous immigration actions, the federal government has said it was targeting the “worst of the worst,” though many others swept up in the operations have no criminal convictions.
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> Trump has repeatedly threatened to deploy troops to San Francisco in recent weeks, telling Fox News on Sunday: “We’re going to San Francisco and we’ll make it great. It’ll be great again.” His incursion into the region sets the stage for a showdown with local leaders, who have said San Francisco does not need his help to quell chaos on the streets and vowed to sue to block any National Guard deployment.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2025, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martial-law-in-todays-america-daily-report/1022021/217 "2025-10-23T15:40:17Z")

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Protestors confront ICE in NYC Tuesday.

> **[Immigration agents conducting sweep on NYC's famed Canal Street confronted by...](https://apnews.com/article/nyc-immigration-sweep-chinatown-canal-street-a7f8cc60c128c67a5a7cd6003a0a856d)**
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> An immigration enforcement sweep targeting vendors on New York City’s famed Canal Street turned chaotic Tuesday afternoon, as bystanders and protesters confronted federal agents and tried to block their path.

> NEW YORK (AP) — An immigration enforcement sweep targeting vendors on Manhattan’s famed Canal Street turned chaotic on Tuesday after droves of angry New Yorkers surrounded federal agents and attempted to block them from driving off, prompting arrests and fierce standoffs along a bustling downtown corridor.  
> …  
> In response, a contingent of protesters, many of whom appeared to be on their way home from work, surrounded the masked officers, attempting to block their vehicle as they shouted “ICE out of New York” and called on other pedestrians to join them.  
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> As more New Yorkers joined the fray, some of the federal agents retreated on foot, followed by jeering protesters and honking vehicles. Additional federal agents, armed with long guns and tactical gear, also arrived in a military tactical vehicle.  
> …

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**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2025, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martial-law-in-todays-america-daily-report/1022021/218 "2025-10-23T18:04:33Z")

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Awesome!

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2025, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martial-law-in-todays-america-daily-report/1022021/219 "2025-10-23T22:34:03Z")

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This just in!

> **[Trump Administration Live Updates: President Shelves Plan to Deploy Federal...](https://www.nytimes.com/live/2025/10/23/us/trump-news?unlocked_article_code=1.vk8.qM8_.9DpnDGLbwsri&smid=url-share)**

> **Federal deployment:** President Trump is calling off, at least for now, plans to surge federal immigration agents into San Francisco this weekend. Mr. Trump said in Truth Social post that he had stopped the deployment at the request of friends who live in the Bay Area who vouched for the work of the city’s mayor. But it was not clear whether the rest of the region would also be spared.

More at link.

TACO Thursday! Pass the salsa!

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2025, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martial-law-in-todays-america-daily-report/1022021/220 "2025-10-23T22:55:09Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> TACO Thursday! Pass the salsa!

Freaking hilarious.

[![](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ChtuyP0VEAQZlY1?format=jpg&name=medium) ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ChtuyP0VEAQZlY1?format=jpg&name=medium)

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