# Martial Law in Today's America - daily report **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [August 14, 2025, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martial-law-in-todays-america-daily-report/1022021 "2025-08-14T02:43:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2025, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martial-law-in-todays-america-daily-report/1022021/121 "2025-10-03T20:29:22Z")
At **aurora\_marie** ’s request, I merged in a thread she started that was largely on the same topic. There’s about five new posts in the thread as a result. ---
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2025, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martial-law-in-todays-america-daily-report/1022021/122 "2025-10-05T00:41:35Z")
And Portland is off limits. For now: > **[Judge temporarily blocks Trump administration from deploying troops in...](https://apnews.com/article/deployment-trump-portland-national-guard-lawsuit-8a0323d49b708ebf905527f897352832)** > > A federal judge in Oregon has temporarily blocked President Donald Trump’s administration from deploying the National Guard in Portland. U.S. The money quote from the judge (regarding Trump’s description of Portland): > “The President’s determination was simply untethered to the facts.” An understandable observation, given that the President himself is untethered from facts. (And yes, I know that this only matters if the Orange Peril, Kegsbreath _et.al._ pay attention to it. But any pushback, however small, should be noted.) ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2025, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martial-law-in-todays-america-daily-report/1022021/123 "2025-10-05T03:56:44Z")
[Consientious Objection in relation to martial law in America is in the news.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/national-guardsmen-deployed-us-cities-014644684.html) > [@](#): > > CHICAGO – In the desert, he realized Humvees don’t uphold the Constitution: People do. > > Twenty years later, Iraq War veteran Aaron Hughes continues spreading his realization that soldiers can better champion American ideals by following their conscience over orders. > > The 42-year-old is sharing the message more vociferously than ever as [President Donald Trump](https://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/donald-trump/) moves to deploy troops to cities around the U.S. in what the president says is an effort to fight crime and support immigration enforcement. > > “When people withdraw themselves from the gears of the machine, that’s power, and service members need to know they have power to withdraw their consent,” said the Chicago-area native. > > Hughes is an Illinois-based member of About Face: Veterans Against the War, an organization formed to stop “[militarism and endless wars](https://aboutfaceveterans.org/)” that has been slamming the White House’s efforts to use soldiers to police Americans and is urging troops to resist being deployed. > > “We’re trying to rebuild the GI resistance movement,” said Hughes, referring to the sweeping efforts veterans and service members made to end the Vietnam War. “We don’t want our brothers and sisters participating in this authoritarian adventurism.” [Here is the homepage](https://aboutfaceveterans.org/) for _About Face: Veterans Against the War_. ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2025, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martial-law-in-todays-america-daily-report/1022021/124 "2025-10-06T00:11:31Z")
“The president’s repeated depictions of Portland as “on fire” diverged from reality, the judge found,” — NY Times I like that phrase, “diverged from reality.” In other words, complete and utter bullshit. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2025, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martial-law-in-todays-america-daily-report/1022021/125 "2025-10-06T00:43:27Z")
> [@JKellyMap](#): > > complete and utter bullshit Which, of course, explains why the felon’s skin tone and hair color look like diarrhea. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2025, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martial-law-in-todays-america-daily-report/1022021/126 "2025-10-06T01:28:27Z")
Trump apparently can’t take “no” for an answer-It looks like he is leaving the Oregon National Guard alone…and instead is sending over _California_ National Guard to harass Portland. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2025, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martial-law-in-todays-america-daily-report/1022021/127 "2025-10-06T01:42:17Z")
> [@OttoDaFe](#): > > And Portland is off limits. For now: And, instead, he’s back to saying he’s sending troops into Chicago. > [@](#): > > President Donald Trump moved to deploy the National Guard in another city Saturday by authorizing 300 troops to protect federal officers and assets in Chicago, where the government said Border Patrol agents shot and injured a woman while firing at someone who tried to run them over. > > White House spokesperson Abigail Jackson confirmed that the president authorized using the Illinois National Guard members, citing what she called “ongoing violent riots and lawlessness” that local leaders have not quelled. > > “President Trump will not turn a blind eye to the lawlessness plaguing American cities,” Jackson said. > > Democratic Gov. JB Pritzker said the guard received notice from the Pentagon early in the day. He called the move unnecessary and “a manufactured performance — not a serious effort to protect public safety.” > > “This morning, the Trump Administration’s Department of War gave me an ultimatum: call up your troops, or we will,” Pritzker said in a statement. “It is absolutely outrageous and un-American to demand a Governor send military troops within our own borders and against our will.” > > Trump has long threatened to send troops to Chicago, but it was not immediately clear when or exactly where they would be deployed. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2025, 5:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martial-law-in-todays-america-daily-report/1022021/128 "2025-10-06T05:50:08Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > looks like he is leaving the Oregon National Guard alone…and instead is sending over _California_ National Guard to harass Portland. And now that’s been blocked by the judge. Great quote by Oregon Attorney General Dan Rayfield > "The judge’s ruling was not some minor procedural point for the president to work around like my 14-year-old does when he doesn’t like my answers.” ---
**Author:** ![Ancient\_Nerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ed655f/32.png) [@Ancient\_Nerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ancient_Nerd)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2025, 6:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martial-law-in-todays-america-daily-report/1022021/129 "2025-10-06T06:44:21Z")
If el donald can’t order the California national guard to invade Oregon, maybe he can order the Nebraska navy to invade Venezuela ---
**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2025, 9:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martial-law-in-todays-america-daily-report/1022021/130 "2025-10-06T09:41:00Z")
I’d not be surprised if he ordered the Ohio and Nebraska National Guard Naval divisions in. ---
**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2025, 12:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martial-law-in-todays-america-daily-report/1022021/131 "2025-10-06T12:10:32Z")
Could he deputized the Eastern Oregon Portland-haters? ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2025, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martial-law-in-todays-america-daily-report/1022021/132 "2025-10-06T13:04:05Z")
He thinks he can send the CA National Guard to harass Portland? Does he remember that Governor Newsom is NOT his BFF? Where are the big men in white coats with the nets? ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2025, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martial-law-in-todays-america-daily-report/1022021/133 "2025-10-06T14:12:34Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > He thinks he can send the CA National Guard to harass Portland? > > Does he remember that Governor Newsom is NOT his BFF? He’s not going to politely ask Newsom to please sent California National Guard troops to Portland, his plan is to federalize them so they’re under his direct control and send them to Portland. Newsom has no part of his plans. Legally he can’t do that shit, because the ability of the POTUS to federalize the National Guard (outside of DC at least) only happens under very narrow circumstances and requires the approval of a Congress that can’t even pass a budget to keep the government running, but it doesn’t stop him from acting like he can while playing fake tough guy online. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2025, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martial-law-in-todays-america-daily-report/1022021/134 "2025-10-06T14:28:19Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > He’s not going to politely ask Newsom to please sent California National Guard troops to Portland, his plan is to federalize them so they’re under his direct control and send them to Portland. Newsom has no part of his plans. > > Legally he can’t do that shit, because the ability of the POTUS to federalize the National Guard (outside of DC at least) only happens under very narrow circumstances and requires the approval of a Congress that can’t even pass a budget to keep the government running, but it doesn’t stop him from acting like he can while playing fake tough guy online. But, but, but… Why doesn’t he just try to do that with Oregon’s NG??? Ah, fuckit. Never mind. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2025, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martial-law-in-todays-america-daily-report/1022021/135 "2025-10-06T14:47:39Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > Why doesn’t he just try to do that with Oregon’s NG??? And just as a reminder, the courts already told Trump he can’t do _any_ of this. [https://www.npr.org/2025/10/05/nx-s1-5563170/trump-national-guard-chicago-portland-illinois-oregon-pritzker](https://www.npr.org/2025/10/05/nx-s1-5563170/trump-national-guard-chicago-portland-illinois-oregon-pritzker) > A federal judge late Sunday night blocked the Trump administration from deploying any federalized National Guard units to Oregon, including hundreds of out-of-state soldiers. It came hours after the government dispatched California National Guard members to Oregon. ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2025, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martial-law-in-todays-america-daily-report/1022021/136 "2025-10-06T14:50:50Z")
That insane far left lunatic commie activist judge was appointed by Trump, for what it’s worth. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2025, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martial-law-in-todays-america-daily-report/1022021/137 "2025-10-06T15:18:45Z")
And he’s already saying he doesn’t know her and is blaming others for her nomination. ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2025, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martial-law-in-todays-america-daily-report/1022021/138 "2025-10-06T17:08:24Z")
I mean, why not? He never, ever takes responsibility for anything he doesn’t like, and lies all the time. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2025, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martial-law-in-todays-america-daily-report/1022021/139 "2025-10-06T17:17:30Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > Why doesn’t he just try to do that with Oregon’s NG??? I forgot to add, he initially tried to do that, but a judge blocked it, so that’s when he changed to trying to bring California’s NG in, and the judge blocked that as well (and said he can’t mobilize them from any other state either). Unfortunately those rulings only apply to Portland, and nowhere else that he’s trying to use NG troops to harass people, like Chicago. ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2025, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martial-law-in-todays-america-daily-report/1022021/140 "2025-10-06T17:18:44Z")
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