# Martial Law in Today's America - daily report **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [August 14, 2025, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martial-law-in-todays-america-daily-report/1022021 "2025-08-14T02:43:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2025, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martial-law-in-todays-america-daily-report/1022021/161 "2025-10-08T16:10:39Z")
Yeah, as I said in another thread I’m curious how that would play out. Given they both have armed law enforcement acting as security I’m guessing the answer would be “Not very well.” ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2025, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martial-law-in-todays-america-daily-report/1022021/162 "2025-10-08T21:03:31Z")
So…. do the Illinois National Guard follow the orders of the governor or the president? ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2025, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martial-law-in-todays-america-daily-report/1022021/163 "2025-10-08T22:57:55Z")
It’s actually an easy answer. The NG follows the orders of the governor unless it has been federalized; that’s what being federalized means. That’s what one of the controversies has been. Trump wants to federalize the NG in various states, even though there are very narrow situations where he can do so, and courts have been telling him that he can’t do it without an actual emergency as opposed to something he just made up. ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2025, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martial-law-in-todays-america-daily-report/1022021/164 "2025-10-09T02:21:22Z")
As I understand the current situation in Chicago, the Illinois National Guard has not been federalized. The Fat Orange Monster and gang have dispatched the Texas National Guard to the Chicago area instead. The Texas Gov, Greg Abbott is more than happy to go along with this. ---
**Author:** ![Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/q.q.switcheroo/32/5713_2.png) [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.Q.Switcheroo)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2025, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martial-law-in-todays-america-daily-report/1022021/165 "2025-10-09T02:27:01Z")
> [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](#): > > The Fat Orange Monster and gang have dispatched the Texas National Guard to the Chicago area instead. “If the American people won’t start a civil war, then damnit, we’ll just have to do it for them!” ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2025, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martial-law-in-todays-america-daily-report/1022021/166 "2025-10-09T03:47:54Z")
[An ICE agent shoots a Chicago pastor in the head with pellets.](https://www.youtube.com/shorts/cWsFut7PnRI) [Youtube video from Newsweek] Meanwhile Noem visits Portland, stands on the ICE facility roof surrounded by geared up ICE men, and stares threateningly down at a dozen or so protesters on the sidewalk below, including a guy in a chicken suit. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2025, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martial-law-in-todays-america-daily-report/1022021/167 "2025-10-09T04:04:59Z")
Weren’t some of those few “protesters” actually reporters? ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2025, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martial-law-in-todays-america-daily-report/1022021/168 "2025-10-09T04:07:47Z")
Don’t you remember those are the same to this admin? Reporter = Protester = Criminal. The funny thing about that is the head of the administration is actually a convicted criminal. ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2025, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martial-law-in-todays-america-daily-report/1022021/169 "2025-10-09T04:36:52Z")
I’m not sure I understand the point you are trying to make. Are you suggesting if they were reporters that means shooting at them is okay since they were only “protesters”? Surely I’m misunderstanding something but your post is confusing. Pritzker and Mayor Johnson have been on social media telling all of us in Chicago to be sure to record anything we see. A pastor getting shot in the head with a pepper ball at a peaceful protest would seem to be worthy of recording. ---
**Author:** ![Jihi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jihi/32/17768_2.png) [@Jihi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jihi)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2025, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martial-law-in-todays-america-daily-report/1022021/170 "2025-10-09T04:54:59Z")
Not to speak for @Czarcasm , but Noem staged an incompetent photo op at an ICE facility in Portland. She tried to claim that she was staring down at a group of antifa protesters when in actuality it was maybe a dozen or so people, peaceful protesters and some photojournalists. Here’s an article detailing the situation and includes the photos. > **[Kristi Noem ‘stares down’ Antifa. It was reporters and a guy in a chicken...](https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/us-politics/kristi-noem-portland-visit-antifa-chicken-b2841736.html)** > > Trump has claimed Portland is ‘war-ravaged’ - but residents and local authorities dispute that Noem was trying to act like she was Aragorn standing on the wall at Helm’s Deep, when in actuality it was just a bunch of people making fun of her. Pretty sure Czarcasm was just pointing out the lie and the absurdity of the situation. At least that’s how I read it. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2025, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martial-law-in-todays-america-daily-report/1022021/171 "2025-10-09T04:57:53Z")
And you read it right. How someone could take what I said to mean that I thought it was o.k. to shoot reporters is simply astonishing. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2025, 6:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martial-law-in-todays-america-daily-report/1022021/172 "2025-10-09T06:58:44Z")
[Nah, this isn’t a military dictatoship, not even close.](https://www.aol.com/articles/trump-calls-chicago-mayor-illinois-124747793.html) > [@](#): > > CHICAGO/WASHINGTON (Reuters) -U.S. President [Donald Trump](https://www.yahoo.com/people/donald-trump/) on Wednesday called for jailing Chicago’s mayor and Illinois’ governor, both Democrats, as his administration prepared to deploy military troops to the streets of the third-largest U.S. city. Sending in the military and then threatening to jail those opposed to it is, without a doubt, operating as a military dictatorship. [And what are those troops doing, what is their mission?](https://www.aol.com/news/troops-amass-near-chicago-portland-134735158.html) > [@](#): > > Members of the Texas National Guard have deployed into the greater Chicago area, an official said Wednesday night, as lawyers prepare for critical court hearings on federalized troops 2,000 miles away from each other amid an ongoing battle between President Donald Trump and Democratic-led cities. > > The Trump administration is tying planned deployments in Chicago and Portland, Oregon, to increasingly tense protests outside Immigration and Customs Enforcement facilities, as well as citing the [shooting](https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/30/us/dallas-ice-facility-shooting-detainee-dies?cid=external-feeds_iluminar_yahoo) at an ICE facility in Dallas. Two ICE detainees were killed there. Trump has [called](https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/115261106680507707) it an attack on law enforcement. > > The Texas guardsmen are now deployed on their official mission of protecting US Immigration and Customs Enforcement and other US Government personnel in the Chicago area, a US Northern Command spokesperson told CNN Wednesday night. The spokesperson was unable to share any additional detail on where exactly the troops were. So, they’re their in a lawless city to guard federal buildings which have not been attacked and not to assist in alleviating some kind of emergency? And they’re from another state? Yeah, that’s really compelling. Like Hell. [Mayor Johnsnon, on the other hand, is compelling.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/chicago-mayor-responds-trump-call-170942093.html) > [@](#): > > Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson (D), responding to President Trump’s remarks that he and Illinois Gov. JB Pritzker (D) [should be arrested](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/trump-says-pritzker-chicago-mayor-125434917.html), called Trump “unstable” and “unhinged.” > > “First of all, this president is unstable, unhinged, a double-minded individual that, quite frankly, is a threat to our democracy,” Johnson said during an appearance on CNN’s “[The Situation Room](https://www.cnn.com/2025/10/08/politics/video/chicago-mayor-brandon-johnson-trump-jailed-digvid).” > > “And it’s certainly not the first time that Donald Trump has called for the arresting of Black man unjustly. I’m not going anywhere. I’m going to stay firm as the mayor of this amazing city, which was voted nine years in a row the best big city in America, and we’re going to defend all of Chicago,” he added. [Cruella de Vile is still on a roll, threatening another mayor.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/kristi-noem-levels-ominous-threat-123102097.html) > [@](#): > > Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem on Tuesday warned Portland Mayor Keith Wilson her department would “send four times the amount of federal officers” currently in the city if he did not comply with her request to make additional security resources available. **(Watch video below.)** > > Noem flew to Portland Tuesday to visit a U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement facility that has been the site of protests in the city, amid a legal battle between the state and the Trump administration concerning their plans to deploy federal troops to the Oregon city. I’m seriously wondering how the felon and his flacks scored in civics class. ---
**Author:** ![OldOlds](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a3d4f5/32.png) [@OldOlds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OldOlds)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2025, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martial-law-in-todays-america-daily-report/1022021/173 "2025-10-09T12:40:51Z")
I just want to say that calling her “Cruella Deville” isn’t going to land. She’ll totally lean into that, and an awful lot of MAGA will love it. ---
**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2025, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martial-law-in-todays-america-daily-report/1022021/174 "2025-10-09T13:02:40Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Don’t you remember those are the same to this admin? I am, admittedly, a bad person from a shithole country, but man… I build puppets. Spitting Image & South Park have done a great job, but I think I could build a life-size nappy-wearing short-fingered vulgarian. Perhaps I should visit the USA. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2025, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martial-law-in-todays-america-daily-report/1022021/175 "2025-10-09T14:39:54Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > can’t do it without an actual emergency as opposed to something he just made up. Or more to the point, something that Fox “news” made up. ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2025, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martial-law-in-todays-america-daily-report/1022021/176 "2025-10-09T15:01:28Z")
I did mention in my post that I knew I must be misunderstanding what you wrote. Sorry for bringing it up but I was hoping for clarification. Jihi’s post gave me that. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2025, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martial-law-in-todays-america-daily-report/1022021/177 "2025-10-09T15:58:22Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > Or more to the point, something that Fox “news” made up. I no longer draw a distinction between Fox News and White House communications. That info is flowing from the same handful of people. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2025, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martial-law-in-todays-america-daily-report/1022021/178 "2025-10-09T22:49:48Z")
I know it’s an incredibly sexist and puerile thought, and I apologize for it, but I have to confess that I would have loved it if the guy in the chicken suit had shouted “Show us your tits!” ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2025, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martial-law-in-todays-america-daily-report/1022021/179 "2025-10-09T23:24:21Z")
> [@scudsucker](#): > > Perhaps I should visit the USA. No! Please don’t! We don’t want you deep-sixed, incommunicado, into some ICE detention camp. ---
**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2025, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martial-law-in-todays-america-daily-report/1022021/180 "2025-10-09T23:27:09Z")
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