# Martin Bashir, you call that an apology? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 19, 2013, 7:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-bashir-you-call-that-an-apology/674245 "2013-11-19T07:42:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2013, 7:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-bashir-you-call-that-an-apology/674245/1 "2013-11-19T07:42:21Z")
So do I. [http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2013/11/18/msnbcs\_bashir\_apologizes\_for\_saying\_someone\_should\_defecate\_on\_sarah\_palin.html](http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2013/11/18/msnbcs_bashir_apologizes_for_saying_someone_should_defecate_on_sarah_palin.html) I’m no fan of this guy, and he’s said some astoundingly partisan, hateful and stupid things. Last week, he went as far as implying that someone should defecate on Sarah Palin. In the link you will find his apology. Anyone who feels the need to apologize should take a look at it and use it as a guide. No equivocation. No excuses. I particularly liked this part: > [@](#): > > My words were wholly unacceptable. They were neither accurate, nor fair. They were unworthy of anyone who would claim to have an interest in politics, and they have brought shame upon my friends and colleagues at this network, none of whom were responsible for the things that I said. So, well done, Mr. Bashir. Wait, this is the Pit, hmmm. Okay I pit Barrack Obama for his mealy-mouthed apology-that-really-wasn’t-an-apology apology. That being said, it is refreshing to see someone admit that he’s gone over the line and give a full, clear, and heartfelt apology. Unlike that of Barack Obama. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2013, 8:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-bashir-you-call-that-an-apology/674245/2 "2013-11-19T08:04:57Z")
WTF doess this have to do with Obama? Mind giving us a clue here? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2013, 8:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-bashir-you-call-that-an-apology/674245/3 "2013-11-19T08:12:04Z")
I think he was hoping for a more sincere, Japanese-style apology from President Obama. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2013, 9:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-bashir-you-call-that-an-apology/674245/4 "2013-11-19T09:47:44Z")
So, if I understand the topic, we should not be expecting Mrs. Palin to appear in a German scheisse video anytime soon? ---
**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2013, 10:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-bashir-you-call-that-an-apology/674245/5 "2013-11-19T10:08:06Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > So, well done, Mr. Bashir. I disagree. The only person who should be apologizing is Palin, for continuing to subject the good people of this country with her unique brand of partisan idiocy. She is a national embarrassment. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2013, 10:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-bashir-you-call-that-an-apology/674245/6 "2013-11-19T10:46:36Z")
I’m not a Martin Bashir fan in general and I would agree that unless you’re Triumph the Comic Insult Dog it’s inappropriate for people purporting to be serious journalists and media commentators to go around suggesting that public figures should be pooped on. OTOH, Sarah Palin herself could pretty much have said this on any given day during her FoxNews tenure and it would have applied: > [@](#): > > My words were wholly unacceptable. They were neither accurate, nor fair. They were unworthy of anyone who would claim to have an interest in politics, and they have brought shame upon my friends and colleagues at this network, none of whom were responsible for the things that I said. And in conclusion, it’s all Obama’s fault somehow. ---
**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2013, 11:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-bashir-you-call-that-an-apology/674245/7 "2013-11-19T11:30:14Z")
I like Bashir simply because he’s so good at condescending people. He reminds me of Mr. Hand from Fast Times At Richmond High. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2013, 11:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-bashir-you-call-that-an-apology/674245/8 "2013-11-19T11:58:56Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > … he went as far as implying that someone should defecate on Sarah Palin. …😉 Boing! (as long as there’s no talky-talk…) ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2013, 12:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-bashir-you-call-that-an-apology/674245/9 "2013-11-19T12:05:20Z")
Clicking through to see the context of the original statement, I am less appalled by what he really said. It’s still not something someone in the media ought to say, but it isn’t like he said someone should lay a Cleveland steamer on her out of the blue. Plus, Obama. (General Magellan01, you’re a real moron.) ---
**Author:** ![sylmar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b782af/32.png) [@sylmar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sylmar)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2013, 12:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-bashir-you-call-that-an-apology/674245/10 "2013-11-19T12:14:27Z")
A pitting that’s actually props? You seem to have difficulty understanding forum appropriate posting Mags. ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2013, 12:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-bashir-you-call-that-an-apology/674245/11 "2013-11-19T12:48:46Z")
> [@sylmar](#): > > A pitting that’s actually props? You seem to have difficulty understanding forum appropriate posting Mags. It’s because he is pitting Obama. The logic is clear. ---
**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2013, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-bashir-you-call-that-an-apology/674245/12 "2013-11-19T12:49:45Z")
> [@sylmar](#): > > A pitting that’s actually props? You seem to have difficulty understanding forum appropriate posting Mags. Well, to be fair, anything that invokes the name Sarah Palin is bound to wind up here anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2013, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-bashir-you-call-that-an-apology/674245/13 "2013-11-19T13:18:06Z")
The Obama snark was either off-topic…or it was the _real_ topic. My guess is the latter. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2013, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-bashir-you-call-that-an-apology/674245/14 "2013-11-19T13:19:47Z")
Did Obama say he wanted to deuce on Palin too? ---
**Author:** ![42fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/4/b487fb/32.png) [@42fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/42fish)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2013, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-bashir-you-call-that-an-apology/674245/15 "2013-11-19T13:59:35Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > OTOH, Sarah Palin herself could pretty much have said this on any given day during her FoxNews tenure and it would have applied: > > > [@](#): > > > > My words were wholly unacceptable. They were neither accurate, nor fair. They were unworthy of anyone who would claim to have an interest in politics, and they have brought shame upon my friends and colleagues at this network, none of whom were responsible for the things that I said. I think she’d have to edit out the “brought shame upon my friends and colleagues at this network” line, since the FoxNews bunch has demonstrated time and again that they have no sense of shame. Otherwise, it’s a go. ---
**Author:** ![Machine\_Elf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/82dd89/32.png) [@Machine\_Elf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Machine_Elf)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2013, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-bashir-you-call-that-an-apology/674245/16 "2013-11-19T14:07:04Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > I think he was hoping for a more sincere, Japanese-style apology from President Obama. [The Japanese Tradition: Apologising](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqZcEwHBAk8) ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2013, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-bashir-you-call-that-an-apology/674245/17 "2013-11-19T14:17:10Z")
The Michael Jackson documentary guy isn’t much of a journalist? I didn’t see that one coming. The comments were ludicrous and offensive and a full apology is warranted. Bashir should say he’s sorry, too. (This has been your daily reminder of selective outrage.) ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2013, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-bashir-you-call-that-an-apology/674245/18 "2013-11-19T14:17:32Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > WTF doess this have to do with Obama? Mind giving us a clue here? It was an anti-pitting of Bashir. I didn’t know where to put it as we don’t have a forum “Sing the Praises”. I threw in the snide comment about Obama because it was, indeed, the Pit and felt the need to criticize someone. And Obama’s lame apology contrasted well with Bashir’s. Don’t like the forum? Meh. Sue me. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2013, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-bashir-you-call-that-an-apology/674245/19 "2013-11-19T14:37:49Z")
I was kind of hoping it would come to me before I reached the end of the thread, but it didn’t. Who is Martin Bashir? ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2013, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-bashir-you-call-that-an-apology/674245/20 "2013-11-19T14:42:18Z")
I have no idea who Martin Bashir is. However, I do feel someone should defecate on Sarah Palin, and I make no apologies about that. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-bashir-you-call-that-an-apology/674245.md?page=2)