# Martin Bashir, you call that an apology? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 19, 2013, 7:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-bashir-you-call-that-an-apology/674245 "2013-11-19T07:42:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2013, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-bashir-you-call-that-an-apology/674245/41 "2013-11-19T22:26:05Z")
I have no problems with what Bashir said about Palin and wish he didn’t apologize. Her ignorance and frankly callous cruelty in picking at the wound of slavery in order to score political points she can’t express in a less stupid fashion deserves the full brunt of everyone’s hostility. Pissing and shitting in her mouth would only improve what comes out of it on a daily basis. Palin could have made that same apology about a dozen things from inciting hostility towards Democrats with her “target” remarks or her continuing lies and attempts to bring down Obama with all manner of bullshit that hurts actual Americans. But nobody will ever seriously expect or call on her to apologize and worse, if she does apologize for anything, it wouldn’t be the sincere one that Bashir made. ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2013, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-bashir-you-call-that-an-apology/674245/42 "2013-11-20T00:09:04Z")
NM - I thought this was a ST:DS9 thread Hi, Miller! ---
**Author:** ![Revenant\_Threshold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@Revenant\_Threshold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revenant_Threshold)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2013, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-bashir-you-call-that-an-apology/674245/43 "2013-11-20T01:34:58Z")
I tend to agree that Bashir shouldn’t have said something like that in his position. At a pub with friends? Sure. On TV as a pundit, it lacks gravitas, tact, and charm. Which doesn’t really mean it’s a bad thing but bad for his job, anyway. Did Palin apologise for her words, out of interest? That seems the more apt pittable point to come out of this whole thing given it’s the subject of the point. I guess it’s not the most apt point for everyone. ---
**Author:** ![sylmar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b782af/32.png) [@sylmar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sylmar)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2013, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-bashir-you-call-that-an-apology/674245/44 "2013-11-20T01:54:05Z")
> [@Revenant\_Threshold](#): > > I tend to agree that Bashir shouldn’t have said something like that in his position. At a pub with friends? Sure. On TV as a pundit, it lacks gravitas, tact, and charm. Which doesn’t really mean it’s a bad thing but bad for his job, anyway. > > Did Palin apologise for her words, out of interest? That seems the more apt pittable point to come out of this whole thing given it’s the subject of the point. I guess it’s not the most apt point for everyone. Nope, not a pip from the squeaker. It appears Mags is only interested in attempting to pit apologies unrelated to the kerfluffle. Non - existent apologies where they would have been appropriate not so much. ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2013, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-bashir-you-call-that-an-apology/674245/45 "2013-11-20T01:55:37Z")
> [@El\_Kabong](#): > > So, if I understand the topic, we should not be expecting Mrs. Palin to appear in a German scheisse video anytime soon? That depends. Is her maiden name Cartman? ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2013, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-bashir-you-call-that-an-apology/674245/46 "2013-11-20T02:27:44Z")
> [@sylmar](#): > > Nope, not a pip from the squeaker. > > It appears Mags is only interested in attempting to pit apologies unrelated to the kerfluffle. Non - existent apologies where they would have been appropriate not so much. Hey, it’s the schmuck! I started this thread to compliment someone I don’t care for apologizing in what I thought was very good form. (The little aside about Barry was because this was the Pit. I should have ask placed it in IMHO and asked a Mod to move it, but no luck yet.) Now, if you think that Palin, or anyone else, needs to be pitted for _not_ apologizing about something, please knock yourself out. I’m sure it’'l be oh so devastating. ---
**Author:** ![sylmar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b782af/32.png) [@sylmar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sylmar)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2013, 11:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-bashir-you-call-that-an-apology/674245/47 "2013-11-20T11:18:55Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > Hey, it’s the schmuck! I started this thread to compliment someone I don’t care for apologizing in what I thought was very good form. (The little aside about Barry was because this was the Pit. I should have ask placed it in IMHO and asked a Mod to move it, but no luck yet.) > > Now, if you think that Palin, or anyone else, needs to be pitted for _not_ apologizing about something, please knock yourself out. I’m sure it’'l be oh so devastating. Ah, of course. Hearing you explain it that way Mags it now makes perfect sense. To you. You’ve been posting here for nine years and still haven’t figured out the forum thingy. And yet, someone else is the schmuck for your being unable to grasp that concept. With astute observations like that, I’m suprised you didn’t use the OP to laud Mrs. Palins keen, incisive intellect that so resembles your own… ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2013, 12:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-bashir-you-call-that-an-apology/674245/48 "2013-11-20T12:18:36Z")
> [@Revenant\_Threshold](#): > > Did Palin apologise for her words, out of interest? That seems the more apt pittable point to come out of this whole thing given it’s the subject of the point. Nope. [Doubled down, apparently](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=16862990&postcount=11785): > [@Sarah Palin](#): > > I’m sure if we open up the dictionary, we could prove that with semantics that are various, we can prove that there is a definition of slavery that absolutely fits the bill there, when I’m talking about a bankrupt country that will owe somebody something down the line if we don’t change things that is, we will be shackled. We will be enslaved to those who we owe. ---
**Author:** ![drewtwo99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@drewtwo99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewtwo99)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2013, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-bashir-you-call-that-an-apology/674245/49 "2013-11-20T13:21:42Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > Nope. [Doubled down, apparently](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=16862990&postcount=11785): If you can even parse that “sentence,” then yeah, she doubled down on the stupid. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2013, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-bashir-you-call-that-an-apology/674245/50 "2013-11-20T13:36:27Z")
Only a floating turd goes with the flow. ---
**Author:** ![drew870mitchell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drew870mitchell/32/3946_2.png) [@drew870mitchell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drew870mitchell)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2013, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-bashir-you-call-that-an-apology/674245/51 "2013-11-20T15:21:54Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > Nope. [Doubled down, apparently](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=16862990&postcount=11785): She truly is execrable. edit: You say something stupid, you’re not in a campaign, you’re hardly relevant at all any more. Just fucking _apologize_. There’s no excuse. ---
**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2013, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-bashir-you-call-that-an-apology/674245/52 "2013-11-20T15:32:20Z")
We will be enslaved to those who we owe. - Sarah Palin If you owe the bank $100 that’s your problem. If you owe the bank $100 million, that’s the bank’s problem. - J Paul Getty I know who’s idea I’m buying into in this intellectual matchup. I hardly think that China is going to ruin our economy after giving our government hundreds of billions of dollars. If they wanted to take us over, they should have invested that money into weapons. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2013, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-bashir-you-call-that-an-apology/674245/53 "2013-11-20T15:57:45Z")
_Apologize?_ That requires understanding that you were wrong and should apologize. Her job description is professional provocateur and aggriev-iste. ---
**Author:** ![Kimballkid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b5a626/32.png) [@Kimballkid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimballkid)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2013, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-bashir-you-call-that-an-apology/674245/54 "2013-11-20T17:49:00Z")
> [@Shakes](#): > > I like Bashir simply because he’s so good at condescending people. He reminds me of Mr. Hand from Fast Times At Richmond High. Ridgemont High ---
**Author:** ![SeldomSeen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7ba0ec/32.png) [@SeldomSeen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SeldomSeen)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2013, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-bashir-you-call-that-an-apology/674245/55 "2013-11-20T18:10:58Z")
> [@](#): > > But someone should defecate on/in Sarah Palin. > [@](#): > > I have to disagree. No one should (defecate) on Sarah palin. She is too full of (defecation) as it is. > [@](#): > > I do feel someone should defecate on Sarah Palin, and I make no apologies about that. [Marvin Bundy] Them libruls… them libruls couldn’t say shit if they mouths was full of it [/Marvin Bundy] ---
**Author:** ![DJ\_Motorbike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/90ced4/32.png) [@DJ\_Motorbike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DJ_Motorbike)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2013, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-bashir-you-call-that-an-apology/674245/56 "2013-11-20T19:56:37Z")
Bashir’s disgusting loony-leftist rant is typical treatment from the left of conservative women who, since they don’t play homage to the “war on women” meme from the Hammer & Sickle crowd, are characterized as whores or reduced to a punch line. Sara Palin is a successful politician, author, wife, mother, grandmother, businessperson & commentator for conservatism she has millions of adoring fans. She’s living the feminist dream - which is why the left has to use character assassination to discredit her. The left has done this to other successful conservative women: Megyn Kelly, Jan Brewer, Ann Coulter to name a few. But no it’s conservative’s who are at “war with women” because many feel that what’s her name Fluke should buy her own damn condoms. Oh and where the fuck is Barrack “civility” Obama on this. Dead fucking silence. That idiot should resign. ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2013, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-bashir-you-call-that-an-apology/674245/57 "2013-11-20T20:43:58Z")
There is so much to mock here, and so much of it patently wrong, I’ll just leave this gem to sit out and ripen: > [@DJ\_Motorbike](#): > > characterized as whores or reduced to a punch line… > > …what’s her name Fluke should buy her own damn condoms. ---
**Author:** ![sylmar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b782af/32.png) [@sylmar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sylmar)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2013, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-bashir-you-call-that-an-apology/674245/58 "2013-11-20T22:01:26Z")
> [@DJ\_Motorbike](#): > > Bashir’s disgusting loony-leftist rant is typical treatment from the left of conservative women who, since they don’t play homage to the “war on women” meme from the Hammer & Sickle crowd, are characterized as whores or reduced to a punch line. Sara Palin is a successful politician, author, wife, mother, grandmother, businessperson & commentator for conservatism she has millions of adoring fans. She’s living the feminist dream - which is why the left has to use character assassination to discredit her. > > The left has done this to other successful conservative women: Megyn Kelly, Jan Brewer, Ann Coulter to name a few. But no it’s conservative’s who are at “war with women” because many feel that what’s her name Fluke should buy her own damn condoms. > > Oh and where the fuck is Barrack “civility” Obama on this. Dead fucking silence. That idiot should resign. ROFLMAO. Nice satirical roasting of a typical GOP “talking point” there Moto. Sooo over the top and yet still barely able to outdo the conservative shills who get paid to churn out that sort of projective silliness… Thanks for the chuckles. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2013, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-bashir-you-call-that-an-apology/674245/59 "2013-11-20T22:41:13Z")
> [@pravnik](#): > > So, to be perfectly clear, Bashir does not believe that Sarah Palin should be defecated on, and regrets saying so; however, he is not willing at this time to agree that she should not be urinated on. > [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > No, she should \*not \*be pissed on. If she is on fire. 😉 Are you guys trying to ruin all that is good and beautiful about the watersports fetish? But seriously, it WAS totally unacceptable to suggest that Miss Wasilla be treated that way as “punishment” for stupid statements, however much she doubles down on it. Crass and unprofessional. ---
**Author:** ![Revenant\_Threshold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@Revenant\_Threshold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revenant_Threshold)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-bashir-you-call-that-an-apology/674245/60 "2013-11-21T00:57:48Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > Hey, it’s the schmuck! I started this thread to compliment someone I don’t care for apologizing in what I thought was very good form. (The little aside about Barry was because this was the Pit. I should have ask placed it in IMHO and asked a Mod to move it, but no luck yet.) > > Now, if you think that Palin, or anyone else, needs to be pitted for _not_ apologizing about something, please knock yourself out. I’m sure it’'l be oh so devastating. I guess I just find it weird that on a subject about Bashir behaving in a rather stupid way and then apologizing about something stupid Palin said which she didn’t apologise for, your immediate reaction for grabbing the obvious Pittable thing was “Ah, Obama!”. I mean, Palin’s dumb thing was right there. It seems a bit partisan, in an unimportant and not particularly terrible way, of course. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-bashir-you-call-that-an-apology/674245.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-bashir-you-call-that-an-apology/674245.md?page=4)