# Martin Bashir, you call that an apology? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 19, 2013, 7:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-bashir-you-call-that-an-apology/674245 "2013-11-19T07:42:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2013, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-bashir-you-call-that-an-apology/674245/81 "2013-11-27T00:00:45Z")
> [@Frank](#): > > Now _there’s_ a surprise. I notice no commentary for the reasons I hold such an opinion. ::shrug:: :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2013, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-bashir-you-call-that-an-apology/674245/82 "2013-11-27T00:29:00Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > I notice no commentary for the reasons I hold such an opinion. I’ve read your posts from time to time, and have no desire to engage your partisan sophistry. I was just mildly amused. ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2013, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-bashir-you-call-that-an-apology/674245/83 "2013-11-27T00:33:22Z")
> [@White SIFL](#): > > This post confirms what I thought about your first few posts. Dishonest. Needs more cowbell. And more explanation. Now… back to scratching my ass. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2013, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-bashir-you-call-that-an-apology/674245/84 "2013-11-27T00:37:46Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > Conversely, Biden’s remark, speaking to a predominantly Black audience was trying to drum up fear that the Republicans wanted to put American Blacks “back in chains”—_which they were actually in at one time_. If you don’t see a world of difference between those two, I don’t think I can help you. And you may start campaigning for abolishment of the use of any variation of the term slavery when not talking about the actual American history of enslavement. Is this retroactive outrage, or have you been shaking your head in disbelief for the past 15 months? ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2013, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-bashir-you-call-that-an-apology/674245/85 "2013-11-27T01:13:20Z")
> [@Frank](#): > > I’ve read your posts from time to time, and have no desire to engage your partisan sophistry. I was just mildly amused. What? Not wildly amused?!! I must be slipping. So, you’ve gone and declared my reasoning to be sophistry and you are therefore forever free to opine without having to defend your position. Hmm. I congratulate you. We both know that road is the one most likely to be a successful for you. ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2013, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-bashir-you-call-that-an-apology/674245/86 "2013-11-27T01:17:35Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > Is this retroactive outrage, or have you been shaking your head in disbelief for the past 15 months? Oh, since 2008, for sure. Earlier actually. Any time an ethnic group of size supports one party to such a skewed degree—in so many elections—you know that there’s a lot of brain work being skipped over. “Hey, I have Black skin, so I vote for the Black guy, right?” Or in those cases where there isn’t a Black candidate, “…who the Black leaders tell me to vote for.” ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2013, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-bashir-you-call-that-an-apology/674245/87 "2013-11-27T01:40:28Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > I notice no commentary for the reasons I hold such an opinion. Here’s all the commentary possible: You’re a simple-minded partisan hack. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2013, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-bashir-you-call-that-an-apology/674245/88 "2013-11-27T02:14:14Z")
…durp… scuse me I have something to say Quote “Any time an ethnic group of size supports one party to such a skewed degree—in so many elections—you know that there’s a lot of brain work being skipped over.” You know, like Whitey and The Republicans They know how to SHAKE it scuse me …durp… ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2013, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-bashir-you-call-that-an-apology/674245/89 "2013-11-27T02:18:59Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > Oh, since 2008, for sure. Earlier actually. Any time an ethnic group of size supports one party to such a skewed degree—in so many elections—you know that there’s a lot of brain work being skipped over. “Hey, I have Black skin, so I vote for the Black guy, right?” Or in those cases where there isn’t a Black candidate, “…who the Black leaders tell me to vote for.” I don’t need your whole manifesto on race and politics. I’m asking about this particular incident which you brought up in this thread. Has it really been bothering you for 15 months, or did you just learn about it recently while searching for a “Democrats do it too” as if it somehow excuses Palin? ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2013, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-bashir-you-call-that-an-apology/674245/90 "2013-11-27T02:38:11Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > …durp… > scuse me > I have something to say > Quote > “Any time an ethnic group of size supports one party to such a skewed degree—in so many elections—you know that there’s a lot of brain work being skipped over.” > You know, like Whitey and The Republicans > They know how to SHAKE it > scuse me > …durp… Ohhh, you live in that reality where the Dems only get, like, 5% of the White vote. How interesting! Tell me, what color is the sky in your world? And does it have what we call “gravity”? ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2013, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-bashir-you-call-that-an-apology/674245/91 "2013-11-27T02:40:31Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > Here’s all the commentary possible: You’re a simple-minded partisan hack. Problem for you is, you’re much more simple and much more partisan. Know what I mean Mr. Blackity-Black-Black-Black-Super Deep Ebony Pot? ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2013, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-bashir-you-call-that-an-apology/674245/92 "2013-11-27T02:41:33Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > I don’t need your whole manifesto on race and politics. I’m asking about this particular incident which you brought up in this thread. Has it really been bothering you for 15 months, or did you just learn about it recently while searching for a “Democrats do it too” as if it somehow excuses Palin? It bothered me when it happened. Does that help? ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2013, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-bashir-you-call-that-an-apology/674245/93 "2013-11-27T02:50:08Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > It bothered me when it happened. Does that help? It’s a start. Do you have anything to corroborate that statement? ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2013, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-bashir-you-call-that-an-apology/674245/94 "2013-11-27T03:20:56Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > It’s a start. Do you have anything to corroborate that statement? What are you talking about? ---
**Author:** ![Lucas\_Jackson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lucas_jackson/32/303_2.png) [@Lucas\_Jackson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lucas_Jackson)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2013, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-bashir-you-call-that-an-apology/674245/95 "2013-11-27T03:21:31Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > Needs more cowbell. > > And more explanation. OK, you’re an asshole too. ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2013, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-bashir-you-call-that-an-apology/674245/96 "2013-11-27T03:26:56Z")
> [@White SIFL](#): > > OK, you’re an asshole too. And you’re a poopy-head. So, there. Thank you for your oh-so-valuable contribution to the discussion. You know, it doesn’t cost any more if you type more words and actually explain yourself to others. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2013, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-bashir-you-call-that-an-apology/674245/97 "2013-11-27T03:27:15Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > What are you talking about? Do you have anything from 15 months ago that expresses how bothered you were by Biden’s statement, or should we just take your word for it now? ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2013, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-bashir-you-call-that-an-apology/674245/98 "2013-11-27T03:29:15Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > Do you have anything from 15 months ago that expresses how bothered you were by Biden’s statement, or should we just take your word for it now? You’ll have to take my word for it. Or not. Up to you. I didn’t even realize it was 15 months ago. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2013, 10:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-bashir-you-call-that-an-apology/674245/99 "2013-11-27T10:05:49Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > Oh, since 2008, for sure. Earlier actually. Any time an ethnic group of size supports one party to such a skewed degree—in so many elections—you know that there’s a lot of brain work being skipped over. “Hey, I have Black skin, so I vote for the Black guy, right?” Or in those cases where there isn’t a Black candidate, “…who the Black leaders tell me to vote for.” Or, you know, most black people have good and legitimate reasons to vote for who they vote for. ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2013, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-bashir-you-call-that-an-apology/674245/100 "2013-11-27T15:29:12Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Or, you know, most black people have good and legitimate reasons to vote for who they vote for. Maybe. But the sociaology experiment/election in Houston that got the White guy elected gives support to my position. Too freakin’ funny! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-bashir-you-call-that-an-apology/674245.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-bashir-you-call-that-an-apology/674245.md?page=6)