# Martin Hyde, you're a fucking idiot **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 12, 2006, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-hyde-youre-a-fucking-idiot/344078 "2006-02-12T04:09:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2006, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-hyde-youre-a-fucking-idiot/344078/221 "2006-02-14T20:03:26Z")
> [@What Exit?](#): > > Up to Otto or the Mods to say. > Martin went from some stupid statements about an easily defended point to gross stupidity and insulting with the broad brush most of us dopers. He offers no apologies for it except a very conditional one. > > My guess is this pitting is not yet complete. > > Jim I offer no apology for what I said other than that my original statement wasn’t properly phrased. I’d never apologize for pointing out the obvious. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2006, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-hyde-youre-a-fucking-idiot/344078/222 "2006-02-14T20:13:32Z")
> [@Martin Hyde](#): > > I offer no apology for what I said other than that my original statement wasn’t properly phrased. > > I’d never apologize for pointing out the obvious. Well that is at least a good answer for ExTank. ---
**Author:** ![photopat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e95f7d/32.png) [@photopat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/photopat)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2006, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-hyde-youre-a-fucking-idiot/344078/223 "2006-02-14T20:54:03Z")
> [@Martin Hyde](#): > > I offer no apology for what I said other than that my original statement wasn’t properly phrased. > > I’d never apologize for pointing out the obvious. Then I assume you don’t expect us to apologize for pointing out that you’re obviously an idiotic fuckwad? ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2006, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-hyde-youre-a-fucking-idiot/344078/224 "2006-02-14T21:48:02Z")
> [@ExTank](#): > > Being a Chaplain in the Army is about a lot more than holding religious services for those who believe; and even if they didn’t hold religious services, the function they fullfill is just as vital, and necessary, to the health and well-being of the troops as chow, docs, and dentists. **AGREEMENT BUFFER OVERFLOW ERROR IN #LARRYMUDD.EXE** This application will now close. ---
**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2006, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-hyde-youre-a-fucking-idiot/344078/225 "2006-02-14T23:31:19Z")
> [@photopat](#): > > Then I assume you don’t expect us to apologize for pointing out that you’re obviously an idiotic fuckwad? I don’t expect an apologize for your obvious incorrectness, I know that most of you don’t know any better. ---
**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2006, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-hyde-youre-a-fucking-idiot/344078/226 "2006-02-14T23:32:24Z")
> [@Martin Hyde](#): > > I don’t expect an apologize for your obvious incorrectness, I know that most of you don’t know any better. \*apology ---
**Author:** ![rayh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e79b87/32.png) [@rayh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rayh)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2006, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-hyde-youre-a-fucking-idiot/344078/227 "2006-02-15T00:27:52Z")
> [@Martin Hyde](#): > > \*apology Apology accepted. ---
**Author:** ![askeptic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eb9ed0/32.png) [@askeptic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/askeptic)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2006, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-hyde-youre-a-fucking-idiot/344078/228 "2006-02-15T00:50:01Z")
Its easy to verify military service. The mods can access our account info to verify actual name then cross check with West point alumni database. I say martin gives giraffe permission to do this and giraffe can confirm. I will be happy to give my particulars to giraffe, along with instructions on how to verify either with DoD or even [military.com](http://military.com). If hyde will not verify his vet status then he should STFU. Even if he can verify it he is still a flaming asshole. But he will have proved me wrong about one thing. Hey, it could happen, but I doubt it. Hyde claims to have gone to West Point. If true he would have been an officer. As a former non-commisioned officer I don’t have the greatest respect for most officers, but I don’t think Hyde could meet even that low standard. Caveat: If Hyde did serve in the military I bet dollars to donuts he was a REMF. ---
**Author:** ![woodstockbirdybird](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/woodstockbirdybird/32/7905_2.png) [@woodstockbirdybird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/woodstockbirdybird)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2006, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-hyde-youre-a-fucking-idiot/344078/229 "2006-02-15T01:17:11Z")
> [@ExTank](#): > > Being a Chaplain in the Army is about a lot more than holding religious services for those who believe; and even if they didn’t hold religious services, the function they fullfill is just as vital, and necessary, to the health and well-being of the troops as chow, docs, and dentists. Really? 'Cause when I was in the Army, I never used the chaplain service, but I sure as hell ate and used the medical/dental facilities. Wonder how I managed to make it through without something so vital and necessary to my health and well-being. Not that I don’t think the chaplains perform a service, but you’re making them sound way more important than they are by comparing them to food and medical service. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2006, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-hyde-youre-a-fucking-idiot/344078/230 "2006-02-15T01:20:53Z")
> [@askeptic](#): > > If hyde will not verify his vet status then he should STFU. > > Even if he can verify it he is still a flaming asshole. But he will have proved me wrong about one thing. Hey, it could happen, but I doubt it. While i completely agree that **Martin Hyde** is an idiot, i don’t agree with you that he is under any obligation to verify his status as a military veteran. Firstly, as you yourself effectively concede, even if he is a veteran it doesn’t lessen the idiocy of his comments on the chaplain issue. Those comments, and his more general observations about people who disagree with him on this issue, stand alone as moronic and irrational. Whether or not he’s a military veteran doesn’t change that. But, even more importantly, i think it sets a bad precedent on these boards to ask for such verification. There are quite a lot of past and current service members on the SDMB, and they should not be asked to verify their status just to satisfy people who don’t agree with them. And we can extrapolate from this to other professions. I have, for example, no concrete evidence that **Bricker** is a lawyer. All i have is his say-so, and his frequent and obviously informed participation in many legal discussions on this board. I think it would be rather poor form for me (or anyone else) to start asking him to prove his real-life occupation on these boards, just because he makes arguments that i don’t like. And does it really matter? We should judge the content of the argument, not get into a pissing contest over who is willing to provide real-life verification of their occupation. This can only lead to even more acrimony than there is on this board already. If **Martin Hyde** demonstrated to me, beyond any shadow of a doubt, that he was a decorated veteran who had put his life on the line for his comrades, and had earned a Congrssional Medal of Honor, i would congratulate him on his service and his valor. But it wouldn’t change my opinion of him as a fucking batshit crazy moron whose arguments in this thread (and quite a few others) defy all logic and reason. ---
**Author:** ![askeptic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eb9ed0/32.png) [@askeptic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/askeptic)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2006, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-hyde-youre-a-fucking-idiot/344078/231 "2006-02-15T01:33:06Z")
Mhendo you are right. I retract my post above yours. I don’t know what I was thinking. That said…Fuck you Martin Hyde. ---
**Author:** ![ExTank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/35a633/32.png) [@ExTank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ExTank)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2006, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-hyde-youre-a-fucking-idiot/344078/232 "2006-02-15T02:39:53Z")
> [@woodstockbirdybird](#): > > Really? 'Cause when I was in the Army, I never used the chaplain service, but I sure as hell ate and used the medical/dental facilities. Wonder how I managed to make it through without something so vital and necessary to my health and well-being. > > Not that I don’t think the chaplains perform a service, but you’re making them sound way more important than they are by comparing them to food and medical service. Maybe you didn’t face war; maybe you’ve never had anything tragic happen to you; _maybe you’re made of sterner stuff than your average person and cope just fine w/o professional assistance._ But I _know_ a lot of my troops looked forward more to Chaplain Brown’s visits (even the ones who didn’t profess religion) than they did the chow truck or the Roaming Butchers (mobile dentist truck). The Army promises to take care of your material needs in order to make you get up and fight; soldiers take it or granted that food will come (even if it’s just MREs), and if they’re wounded or sick, that they will be tended to by professionals. Is it any less reasonable then that they would also provide for your emotional needs? Religion goes a long way towards that, and those that dispense religious ministrations are often trained and adept at helping others sort through their emotions and come to grips with their situation. And because some fucktard will say it, I’ll go ahead and belabor the “so-fucking-obvious-it-needn’t-be-said-but-I-will-anyfuckingway-because-some- asshole-will-pipe-up-and-say-that-‘chaplains-are-incapable-of-dispensing-emotional-counseling-without-appropriate-medical-training’-except-that- chaplains-are-quite-often-the-first-step-in-the-treatment-chain-and-besides-very-few-soldiers-are-allowed-into-the-military-with-debilitating-emotional- problems-or-are-allowed-to-stay-in-the-military-once-diagnosed-with-emotional-problems-that-the-military-didn’t-catch-in-the-pre-enlistment- physical/screening.” Because an emotionally crippled soldier who can’t or won’t fight is nothing more than a well fed basket case with straight teeth. Hell, there’s plenty of them on every street in America, but that does little good at the sharp end where you need a shooter behind the trigger. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2006, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-hyde-youre-a-fucking-idiot/344078/233 "2006-02-15T02:51:52Z")
> [@Martin Hyde](#): > > \*apology You may be a “fucking idiot”, like the thread title says, but at least you can do _that_. ---
**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2006, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-hyde-youre-a-fucking-idiot/344078/234 "2006-02-15T03:11:23Z")
> [@Martin Hyde](#): > > \*apology I heard him too! He apologized! Takes a big man to admit that he’s a fucking idiot and apolgize. Perhaps your Mr. Hyde persona is finally beginning to recede, Dr. Jerkyll. ---
**Author:** ![Zoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a4c791/32.png) [@Zoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoe)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2006, 5:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-hyde-youre-a-fucking-idiot/344078/235 "2006-02-15T05:45:55Z")
I read **Martin’s** brief description of [his life at West Point](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=7086466&postcount=9). I choked on the first sentence: > [@](#): > > During the school year I was more or less like any other college student. Right. ---
**Author:** ![Hostile\_Dialect](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e495f1/32.png) [@Hostile\_Dialect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hostile_Dialect)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2006, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-hyde-youre-a-fucking-idiot/344078/236 "2006-02-15T18:42:00Z")
> [@askeptic](#): > > REMF What on earth is that? ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2006, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-hyde-youre-a-fucking-idiot/344078/237 "2006-02-15T18:52:46Z")
> [@fetus](#): > > What on earth is that? Rear-echelon mother fucker. A bureaucrat in a uniform, as opposed to a “real” (fighting) soldier. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2006, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-hyde-youre-a-fucking-idiot/344078/238 "2006-02-15T18:52:53Z")
> [@fetus](#): > > What on earth is that? rear echelon mother fucker ---
**Author:** ![davenportavenger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/5f8ce5/32.png) [@davenportavenger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davenportavenger)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2006, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-hyde-youre-a-fucking-idiot/344078/239 "2006-02-16T13:47:45Z")
**Martin Hyde** , question: If a soldier visits the chaplain for emotional support, does that make him a cancer on the face of society? Enquiring minds want to know. ---
**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2006, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-hyde-youre-a-fucking-idiot/344078/240 "2006-02-16T21:53:37Z")
> [@askeptic](#): > > Why do you fuckers keep getting sidetracked? This is not supposed to be a discussion about chaplains in the military, that in GD. This is not supposed to be a love fest for lefty and elvis, that belongs in MPSIMS. > > This is a Pitting of the most worthless degenerate scumbag loser to grace the boards. One who falsely claims to have served in the military. One that is a retarded partisan hack for a party that wants nothing to do with him. This is about the bottom dwelling scum sucking pond scum that goes by the screen name Martin Hyde. The lowest most vile sort of poser that exists. > > Lets get back to the point of this thread. Telling Martin what a shit eating scumbag fucktard with absolutely no redeaming qualities he is. > > Hyde if you ever served, which I doubt, you make all veterans ashamed. You bring dishonor to those who served, especially those who served with you. You shoulod have been drummed out of the service and your name should be stricken from the rolls. > > Have a nice day asshole. 😃 This is one of the funniest posts I’ve ever read. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-hyde-youre-a-fucking-idiot/344078.md?page=11) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-hyde-youre-a-fucking-idiot/344078.md?page=13)