# Martin Hyde, you're a fucking idiot **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 12, 2006, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-hyde-youre-a-fucking-idiot/344078 "2006-02-12T04:09:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![mrrealtime](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e8c25b/32.png) [@mrrealtime](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mrrealtime)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2006, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-hyde-youre-a-fucking-idiot/344078/81 "2006-02-12T20:46:53Z")
> [@](#): > > Most soldiers are religious, and their religion comforts them and boosts their morale. Happy soldiers preform their duties better than miserable ones. Be that as it may, I will continue exercise my right to protest the fact that my hard earned $$ is supporting a state sponsored religious activity. If I lose that right, what the hell were all those soldiers fighting and losing their lives for over the past 300 years? Imagine all the people…livin for today… ---
**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2006, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-hyde-youre-a-fucking-idiot/344078/82 "2006-02-12T20:49:56Z")
> [@Shagnasty](#): > > You are talking about people are are effectively part of the military without being in its conventional ranks. You could change the paystub and move around the classifications but it would still be the same thing. The military still need officers that provide the other services of Chaplain. It wouldn’t do that much to recruit non-military members with a high-level ministry and management background, screen them for security, move them to a remote outpost, and monitor them the same as anyone else while providing housing, food, shelter, and supplies. > > Chaplains are officers that have many more duties than running a generic Sunday service. People keep ignoring that. They are officers that provide Chaplain duties that include providing a service to military personell that want them > > I suspect that we have just hit on an issue that is so fringe that of, 300 million people in the U.S., 50% of its support comes from the SDMB. Seconded, it’s just another reflection of how, politically and socially speaking, the SDMB is so unbelievably out of synch with the rest of society. If normal society is earth, the SDMB is the Oort cloud. ---
**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2006, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-hyde-youre-a-fucking-idiot/344078/83 "2006-02-12T20:51:48Z")
> [@Martin Hyde](#): > > Also, the majority of this board is nothing but the representation of the worst and most despicable section of America. Degenerates, the mentally ill, the unwashed masses of extreme leftism that are literally a cancer upon mainstream society. The _more_ credible I’m held by a bunch of degenerates the worse off I am as a person. I don’t think you have to worry about credibility around here. You don’t have any. ---
**Author:** ![mrrealtime](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e8c25b/32.png) [@mrrealtime](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mrrealtime)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2006, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-hyde-youre-a-fucking-idiot/344078/84 "2006-02-12T20:52:07Z")
> [@Martin Hyde](#): > > …there’s nothing you can ever do about it I disagree, I can post on this message board, I can write my local paper, I can vote, I can picket, I can protest. Roe Vs. Wade settled the abortion issue a long time ago, but that doesnt stop hundreds of thousands of people from protesting it to this very day. Thats the beauty of a democracy, something that the most “dispicable leftists” on this board continue to fight to defend. You should visit Saudi Arabia, or Iran. Perhaps you would feel more comfortable in a country utterly stripped of your right to say any of the garbage you have been spewing onto this board that only historic “leftists” have afforded you in this country. ---
**Author:** ![Rysdad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/7cd45c/32.png) [@Rysdad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysdad)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2006, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-hyde-youre-a-fucking-idiot/344078/85 "2006-02-12T20:55:01Z")
> [@Martin Hyde](#): > > Also, the majority of this board is nothing but the representation of the worst and most despicable section of America. Degenerates, the mentally ill, the unwashed masses of extreme leftism that are literally a cancer upon mainstream society. Well, if that’s so, Mr. Quixote, what attracts you to this place? And I _know_ you weren’t groupin’ me in with them thar liberals, was ya boy? ---
**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2006, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-hyde-youre-a-fucking-idiot/344078/86 "2006-02-12T20:55:30Z")
> [@mrrealtime](#): > > I disagree, I can post on this message board, I can write my local paper, I can vote, I can picket, I can protest. > > Roe Vs. Wade settled the abortion issue a long time ago, but that doesnt stop hundreds of thousands of people from protesting it to this very day. Thats the beauty of a democracy, something that the most “dispicable leftists” on this board continue to fight to defend. > > You should visit Saudi Arabia, or Iran. Perhaps you would feel more comfortable in a country utterly stripped of your right to say any of the garbage you have been spewing onto this board that only historic “leftists” have afforded you in this country. I was simply saying you will never be successful. The Third Reich is gone and dead, sure, some scattered fringe groups can continue fighting under the Nazi banner but the chances of them ever being successful are exactly zero. Just like the chance of you ever being successful is exactly zero. That is why it is a “settled issue.” Abortion isn’t a settled issue as there’s still a very real chance abortion law can be fundamentally changed in this country. Ask any pro-choicer and they will tell you how real that chance is and why it’s all the more reason for them to fight even more strenuously for their cause. ---
**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2006, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-hyde-youre-a-fucking-idiot/344078/87 "2006-02-12T20:57:33Z")
> [@Rysdad](#): > > Well, if that’s so, Mr. Quixote, what attracts you to this place? > > And I _know_ you weren’t groupin’ me in with them thar liberals, was ya boy? I enjoy more an environment in which everyone disagrees with me than an environment in which everyone agrees with me. One leads to complaceny, the other does not. ---
**Author:** ![mrrealtime](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e8c25b/32.png) [@mrrealtime](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mrrealtime)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2006, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-hyde-youre-a-fucking-idiot/344078/88 "2006-02-12T21:00:07Z")
Another thing, Mr.Hyde… Please understand that in spite of the fact that I disagree with you, I relish the freedom both we all have to discuss these points, and I am glad you are on the board expressing your point of view to us “unwashed leftists”. This board would totally suck if we all just sat around agreeing with each other. ---
**Author:** ![Ensign\_Edison](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ab992/32.png) [@Ensign\_Edison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ensign_Edison)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2006, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-hyde-youre-a-fucking-idiot/344078/89 "2006-02-12T21:02:36Z")
> [@Martin Hyde](#): > > **Also, the majority of this board is nothing but the representation of the worst and most despicable section of America. Degenerates, the mentally ill, the unwashed masses of extreme leftism that are literally a cancer upon mainstream society. The _more_ credible I’m held by a bunch of degenerates the worse off I am as a person.** You just make me swoon! ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2006, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-hyde-youre-a-fucking-idiot/344078/90 "2006-02-12T21:03:12Z")
> [@Martin Hyde](#): > > There’s no “cause” here. The issue of military chaplains is settled, they are never going away, and there’s nothing you can ever do about it. For me to have a “cause” would mean that there’s some sort of issue at hand, this isn’t an issue. It’s like saying one has a “cause” when one recognizes that the United States is never going to change its flag to an orange and black triangle. > > Also, the majority of this board is nothing but the representation of the worst and most despicable section of America. Degenerates, the mentally ill, the unwashed masses of extreme leftism that are literally a cancer upon mainstream society. The _more_ credible I’m held by a bunch of degenerates the worse off I am as a person. You know most of the people who agree that Chaplains should be retained, still think you are acting like an idiot. I’ll disagree with **mrrealtime, Otto and Der Trihs** but I still respect their right to try and convince others and if they choose try and change the military. I would vote against them, but I would support their right. **This is what America is about, isn’t it?** I know it is why I was willing to serve in the Reagan Navy. \*\*Shagnasty \*\* completely agrees with you but he isn’t telling people to get out of the country or calling them degenerates. Maybe you could learn something from him. Jim ---
**Author:** ![Club\_33](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/df705f/32.png) [@Club\_33](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Club_33)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2006, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-hyde-youre-a-fucking-idiot/344078/91 "2006-02-12T21:03:40Z")
> [@Martin Hyde](#): > > Also, the majority of this board is nothing but the representation of the worst and most despicable section of America. Degenerates, the mentally ill, the unwashed masses of extreme leftism that are literally a cancer upon mainstream society. But of course. Certainly the child molesters, murderers, rapists, etc. aren’t the worst segment of society. Rather, it is those who dare to question any policy of the government that they don’t agree with. ---
**Author:** ![mrrealtime](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e8c25b/32.png) [@mrrealtime](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mrrealtime)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2006, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-hyde-youre-a-fucking-idiot/344078/92 "2006-02-12T21:04:04Z")
> [@Martin Hyde](#): > > I was simply saying you will never be successful. So? Thats not the point. I will happily spend my entire life defending the separation of church and state in all forms, regardless of whether anything changes. I am compelled to do that in order to be true to myself. ---
**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2006, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-hyde-youre-a-fucking-idiot/344078/93 "2006-02-12T21:05:39Z")
> [@Martin Hyde](#): > > Also, the majority of this board is nothing but the representation of the worst and most despicable section of America. Degenerates, the mentally ill, the unwashed masses of extreme leftism that are literally a cancer upon mainstream society. The _more_ credible I’m held by a bunch of degenerates the worse off I am as a person. Interesting statement, Mr. Hyde. I seem to be held as being fairly “credible” by the majority of denizens of the SDMB. Should I now consider myself to be “worse off as a person” as a result? ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2006, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-hyde-youre-a-fucking-idiot/344078/94 "2006-02-12T21:06:44Z")
> [@Martin Hyde](#): > > I was simply saying you will never be successful. The Third Reich is gone and dead, sure, some scattered fringe groups can continue fighting under the Nazi banner but the chances of them ever being successful are exactly zero. Just like the chance of you ever being successful is exactly zero. That is why it is a “settled issue.” > > Abortion isn’t a settled issue as there’s still a very real chance abortion law can be fundamentally changed in this country. Ask any pro-choicer and they will tell you how real that chance is and why it’s all the more reason for them to fight even more strenuously for their cause. Gee 150 years ago your mental Great Great Grandfather was probably saying the same thing about Abortion. No issue, it will never change. As far as Nazis, only eternal vigilance will prevent another group like the Nazi’s from rising up. Jim ---
**Author:** ![Ensign\_Edison](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ab992/32.png) [@Ensign\_Edison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ensign_Edison)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2006, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-hyde-youre-a-fucking-idiot/344078/95 "2006-02-12T21:17:40Z")
> [@Club 33](#): > > But of course. Certainly the child molesters, murderers, rapists, etc. aren’t the worst segment of society. Rather, it is those who dare to question any policy of the government that they don’t agree with. Oh, that’s not what he was saying. He was saying that America is not a pro-choice atheist homosexual who votes Green! Those people are the ones killing America. Also people on zoloft. ---
**Author:** ![rayh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e79b87/32.png) [@rayh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rayh)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2006, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-hyde-youre-a-fucking-idiot/344078/96 "2006-02-12T21:20:24Z")
> [@Martin Hyde](#): > > Also, the majority of this board is nothing but the representation of the worst and most despicable section of America. Degenerates, the mentally ill, the unwashed masses of extreme leftism that are literally a cancer upon mainstream society. The _more_ credible I’m held by a bunch of degenerates the worse off I am as a person. Shit, did I miss the memo? Can I use this as my sig? ---
**Author:** ![samclem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@samclem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samclem)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2006, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-hyde-youre-a-fucking-idiot/344078/97 "2006-02-12T21:24:46Z")
> [@Qadgop the Mercotan](#): > > I seem to be held as being fairly “credible” by the majority of denizens of the SDMB. Should I now consider myself to be “worse off as a person” as a result? Well, you ARE in prison. 🙂 Right-thinking people aren’t in prison. ---
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2006, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-hyde-youre-a-fucking-idiot/344078/98 "2006-02-12T21:25:41Z")
> [@Q.E.D.](#): > > In other words, you’ve pre-emptively rejected all arguments and positions which disagree with you, and you completely unwilling to entertain the idea that there may very well be perfectly rational and non-bigoted reasons for such a stance. Hmmm. What’s that I smell? It’s vaguely bovine… First time dealing with Big Marty, eh? He’ll soon fade into the background noise along with similar trogs. -Joe ---
**Author:** ![mrrealtime](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e8c25b/32.png) [@mrrealtime](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mrrealtime)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2006, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-hyde-youre-a-fucking-idiot/344078/99 "2006-02-12T21:40:42Z")
Martin Hyde is now my favorite Doper. This thread has been a blast, made my afternoon! ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2006, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-hyde-youre-a-fucking-idiot/344078/100 "2006-02-12T21:56:36Z")
> [@cthiax](#): > > Oh, that’s not what he was saying. He was saying that America is not a pro-choice atheist homosexual who votes Green! Those people are the ones killing America. Also people on zoloft. At least I vote Green, I miss on all the others. I think your Sig is a clever idea but you should also Hyperlink to the actual post. Here is the raw link. [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=7096205&postcount=80](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=7096205&postcount=80) Jim [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-hyde-youre-a-fucking-idiot/344078.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-hyde-youre-a-fucking-idiot/344078.md?page=6)