# Martin O'Malley for President thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [May 31, 2015, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-omalley-for-president-thread/721241 "2015-05-31T05:33:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2015, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-omalley-for-president-thread/721241/182 "2015-10-14T17:00:37Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > That’s still a freefall. Good, you’ve apparently learned that ‘death spiral’ doesn’t apply at this point. Now let’s talk about [free fall](http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/free%20fall): > [@](#): > > 1 > : the condition of **unrestrained motion** in a gravitational field; also : such motion > 2 > a : the part of a parachute jump before the parachute opens > b : a **rapid and continuing** drop or decline \ Key words being “unrestrained” and “continuing.” Since Hillary’s poll decline has halted, it is by definition no longer in a falling state - free or otherwise. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2015, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-omalley-for-president-thread/721241/183 "2015-10-14T17:21:52Z")
Can we please keep this thread to a discussion of O’Malley? There are other threads for Hillary and the debate last night. As for that… O’Malley didn’t make a vivid-enough impression, although his closing was very good. He was smart to emphasize his experience actually running a city and a state, and getting stuff done. He still has my support. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2015, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-omalley-for-president-thread/721241/184 "2015-10-14T17:26:24Z")
Given that he’s at 1%, he probably will see a bump simply from people knowing about him. But the Google search numbers on Silver’s site weren’t encouraging .Webb actually got a lot more search activity. O’Malley and Webb will probably get a bump, but Webb’s might be bigger. I figure the numbers in one week for national primary polling will look something like this: Clinton, 40, Sanders 30, Biden 15, Webb 5, O’Malley 3. Unbeknownst to me, apparently Webb already enjoys more than double the support of O’Malley, for what it’s worth. [http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/2016\_democratic\_presidential\_nomination-3824.html](http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/2016_democratic_presidential_nomination-3824.html) ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2015, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-omalley-for-president-thread/721241/185 "2015-10-14T17:27:58Z")
Some free fall _that_ is … 😉 It’s not a good bet that the polls a week from now will still include Biden, yanno. Or that Webb and Chafee will have emerged from rounding error levels. O’Malley is likely to win the bronze, sure, and is a decent bet for running mate. But don’t get your hopes up any higher. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2015, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-omalley-for-president-thread/721241/186 "2015-10-14T17:31:28Z")
I don’t think O’Malley will be VP. He may very well be the frontrunner in 2020 or 2024 though. There are no big names on the horizon for the Democrats, so he’ll enter the next race better known than any of his likely opponents. ---
**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2015, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-omalley-for-president-thread/721241/187 "2015-10-14T18:13:27Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > I don’t think O’Malley will be VP. He may very well be the frontrunner in 2020 or 2024 though. There are no big names on the horizon for the Democrats, so he’ll enter the next race better known than any of his likely opponents. I seriously doubt there will be a Democrat challenger to the sitting Democrat President in 2020… 😉 ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2015, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-omalley-for-president-thread/721241/188 "2015-10-14T18:33:50Z")
If there is, she’ll just have him quietly assassinated, right? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2015, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-omalley-for-president-thread/721241/189 "2015-10-15T04:35:29Z")
> [@USCDiver](#): > > I seriously doubt there will be a Democrat[ic] challenger to the sitting Democrat[ic] President in 2020… 😉 You never know. Just ask Ford (1976), Carter (1980) or Bush (1992). ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2015, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-omalley-for-president-thread/721241/190 "2015-10-15T05:15:47Z")
Yeah, but O’Malley won’t be that person. Which is why I said 2024, should the Democrat win in 2016. He’ll be 60 and will probably have spent the interim period raising his national profile as the most well known Democrat nationally who is under 70. While I don’t think he’ll be VP, Clinton could certainly use him in her cabinet. He’s a pioneer in the area of data driven governance and could really be an asset. The last Clinton administration had a Reinventing Government initiative that Al Gore was in charge of. Perhaps make O’Malley a Government Effectiveness Czar. ---
**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2015, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-omalley-for-president-thread/721241/191 "2015-10-15T13:26:12Z")
[QUOTE=adaher;18774455 Which is why I said 2024… [snip] [/QUOTE] You also said 2020. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2015, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-omalley-for-president-thread/721241/192 "2015-10-15T13:28:00Z")
Because believe it or not, a Republican could win this year. Betting markets set the odds at about 40%. Nate Silver calls it 50-50. ---
**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2015, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-omalley-for-president-thread/721241/193 "2015-10-15T13:47:25Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > Because believe it or not, a Republican could win this year. Betting markets set the odds at about 40%. Nate Silver calls it 50-50. Well maybe my comment was a too subtle way of saying I didn’t agree with that prediction. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2015, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-omalley-for-president-thread/721241/194 "2015-10-21T13:25:56Z")
O’Malley goes on _The Daily Show_ and Trevor Noah gushes: [http://www.cc.com/full-episodes/3wl9lc/the-daily-show-with-trevor-noah-october-19--2015---martin-o-malley-season-21-ep-21013](http://www.cc.com/full-episodes/3wl9lc/the-daily-show-with-trevor-noah-october-19--2015---martin-o-malley-season-21-ep-21013) ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2015, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-omalley-for-president-thread/721241/195 "2015-11-08T01:21:04Z")
Here’s a largely-positive _Rolling Stone_ article about O’Malley: [Why Martin O’Malley Could Be the Future of the Democratic Party – Rolling Stone](http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/why-martin-omalley-could-be-the-future-of-the-democratic-party-20151106) ---
**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2015, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-omalley-for-president-thread/721241/196 "2015-11-08T02:49:44Z")
Elendil’s Hair, would you at any point in your life have lived in Baltimore City during the time of Omalley’s reign, and if so which neighborhood? ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2015, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-omalley-for-president-thread/721241/197 "2015-11-08T18:51:32Z")
It’s “Heir,” and no, I didn’t. With only one brief exception (John Glenn in the 1984 Democratic primaries) I’ve never had the chance to support a Presidential candidate from my home state. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2015, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-omalley-for-president-thread/721241/198 "2015-11-28T02:05:04Z")
A day in the life of a field organizer for the O’Malley campaign in Iowa: [Iowastartingline.com/2015/11/24/a-day-in-the-life-of-a-martin-omalley-field-organizer/](http://Iowastartingline.com/2015/11/24/a-day-in-the-life-of-a-martin-omalley-field-organizer/) ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2015, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-omalley-for-president-thread/721241/199 "2015-11-28T03:02:41Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > Elendil’s Hair, would you at any point in your life have lived in Baltimore City during the time of Omalley’s reign, and if so which neighborhood? I went to law school in Baltimore City, but that was long before O’Malley. It’s an odd patchwork – you can be walking through a nice neighborhood, cross the street, and suddenly you have to step over empty liquor bottles (but at least I never had to step over any empty crack vials) – and then walk a little further and you’re in a nice neighborhood again, and so on. But, it wasn’t so bad, I never got mugged and never heard of a classmate getting mugged. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2015, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-omalley-for-president-thread/721241/200 "2015-12-02T17:10:32Z")
O’Malley is warmly received by Congressional Dems, but still badly lags in endorsements: [http://thehill.com/homenews/house/261662-omalley-huddles-with-house-dems](http://thehill.com/homenews/house/261662-omalley-huddles-with-house-dems) ---
**Author:** ![WF\_Tomba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/d9b06d/32.png) [@WF\_Tomba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WF_Tomba)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2015, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-omalley-for-president-thread/721241/201 "2015-12-02T22:24:00Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > I went to law school in Baltimore City, but that was long before O’Malley. It’s an odd patchwork – you can be walking through a nice neighborhood, cross the street, and suddenly you have to step over empty liquor bottles (but at least I never had to step over any empty crack vials) – and then walk a little further and you’re in a nice neighborhood again, and so on. But, it wasn’t so bad, I never got mugged and never heard of a classmate getting mugged. It’s still like that, and it doesn’t seem to matter who the mayor is. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-omalley-for-president-thread/721241.md?page=9) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-omalley-for-president-thread/721241.md?page=11)