# Martin O'Malley for President thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-omalley-for-president-thread/721241>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [May 31, 2015, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-omalley-for-president-thread/721241 "2015-05-31T05:33:36Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2016, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-omalley-for-president-thread/721241/223 "2016-01-23T14:28:03Z")

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Why not? O’Malley’s got more executive experience than both of them combined.

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2016, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-omalley-for-president-thread/721241/224 "2016-01-23T14:37:39Z")

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So what? So did the two worst presidents in history, Reagan and W.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2016, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-omalley-for-president-thread/721241/225 "2016-01-23T14:38:02Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> Why not? O’Malley’s got more executive experience than both of them combined.

So? Jindal has more executive experience than both of them combined and he was a total fuck-up.

Huckabee has more executive experience than both of them combined and he has no clue as to the basics of the Constitution.

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2016, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-omalley-for-president-thread/721241/226 "2016-01-23T14:41:36Z")

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And the downside of O’Malley is?

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2016, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-omalley-for-president-thread/721241/227 "2016-01-23T16:33:32Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> So? Jindal has more executive experience than both of them combined and he was a total fuck-up.
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> Huckabee has more executive experience than both of them combined and he has no clue as to the basics of the Constitution.

The top \*four \*Republican contenders - Trump, Cruz, Rubio, Carson - boast a grand total of two partial (and half-assed) Senate terms, _combined_.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2016, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-omalley-for-president-thread/721241/228 "2016-01-28T14:42:25Z")

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Danielle Allen of _The Washington Post_ on why voters need to take another look at O’Malley: [https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/ts-time-to-take-a-serious-look-at-martin-omalley/2016/01/27/1cf1f040-c465-11e5-a4aa-f25866ba0dc6\_story.html](https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/ts-time-to-take-a-serious-look-at-martin-omalley/2016/01/27/1cf1f040-c465-11e5-a4aa-f25866ba0dc6_story.html)

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**Author:** ![Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a183cd/32.png) [@Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barkis_is_Willin)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2016, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-omalley-for-president-thread/721241/229 "2016-01-28T16:09:26Z")

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I’m surprised O’Malley has never been able to take off. Hillary has obviously got the entire machine working for her, but surely there must be Democrats who aren’t socialists but would like an alternative. O’Malley seems like a decent candidate, hasn’t made any major blunders that I’m aware of.

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**Author:** ![Pashnish\_Ewing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8797f3/32.png) [@Pashnish\_Ewing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pashnish_Ewing)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2016, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-omalley-for-president-thread/721241/230 "2016-01-28T16:44:30Z")

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> [@Barkis\_is\_Willin](#):
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> I’m surprised O’Malley has never been able to take off. Hillary has obviously got the entire machine working for her, but surely there must be Democrats who aren’t socialists but would like an alternative. O’Malley seems like a decent candidate, hasn’t made any major blunders that I’m aware of.

I’d say his “getting tough on crime” policies, exposed by the riots in Baltimore, never let his candidacy get off the ground. I know that’s when I lost interest.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2016, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-omalley-for-president-thread/721241/231 "2016-01-28T22:41:53Z")

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> [@Barkis\_is\_Willin](#):
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> surely there must be Democrats who aren’t socialists but would like an alternative.

I doubt there are many, and O’Malley already has them. Why would someone who generally agrees with Clinton’s stands and agenda, and agrees she’s well-qualified, “like an alternative”? Someone that reasonable and thoughtful, or at least minimally aware of the 90’s, will typically already know all the Hillary-hate stuff is fabricated and will not be affected by it.

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**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2016, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-omalley-for-president-thread/721241/232 "2016-01-29T03:21:57Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> There are \*reasons \*they’re frontrunners, yanno.

I bet you think the Yankees should get 10 outs in an inning, too.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2016, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-omalley-for-president-thread/721241/233 "2016-02-01T14:18:24Z")

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Clinton field staff in Iowa has an app for trying to block Sanders by sending excess supporters over to O’Malley: [Clinton Iowa Volunteers Train When To Push Backers To O'Malley — To Block Bernie](http://www.buzzfeed.com/bensmith/hillary-bernie-math#.dumP8Ddje)

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2016, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-omalley-for-president-thread/721241/234 "2016-02-02T03:28:00Z")

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Looks like O’Malley is throwing in the towel.

> **[WATCH LIVE: O’Malley To Suspend His Campaign After Iowa Caucuses](https://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/omalley-suspend-2016-campaign)**
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> Democratic presidential candidate Martin O'Malley is expected to suspend his campaign on Monday night after disappointing returns in the Iowa caucuses. The former Maryland governor was polling at zero…

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2016, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-omalley-for-president-thread/721241/235 "2016-02-02T04:21:25Z")

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Too bad. Thought he’d hang on through New Hampshire, at least.

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**Post date:** [February 2, 2016, 8:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-omalley-for-president-thread/721241/236 "2016-02-02T08:06:13Z")

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Wow. I feel bad for him. As I recall, his energy policy, while short of what climate scientists say we actually need, was better than we get from most politicians, and far better than what we’re seeing from Hillary. ☹

I guess when David Simon says you’re trash, people listen.

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**Post date:** [February 2, 2016, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-omalley-for-president-thread/721241/237 "2016-02-02T18:23:02Z")

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_The Baltimore Sun_ has a good piece on the trajectory of O’Malley’s campaign: [http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/politics/blog/bal-martin-omalley-to-announce-hes-suspending-presidential-campaign-20160201-story.html](http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/politics/blog/bal-martin-omalley-to-announce-hes-suspending-presidential-campaign-20160201-story.html)

He’s only 53. I wouldn’t be surprised if he ran again in four or eight years, and might support him then, too.

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**Post date:** [February 3, 2016, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-omalley-for-president-thread/721241/238 "2016-02-03T14:08:36Z")

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O’Malley’s thank-you message on the campaign website: [https://martinomalley.com/thank-you/](https://martinomalley.com/thank-you/)

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**Post date:** [February 3, 2016, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-omalley-for-president-thread/721241/239 "2016-02-03T14:28:19Z")

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**EH** , who do you think O’Malley will endorse (if anyone)? And who will you support now, if I may ask?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2016, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-omalley-for-president-thread/721241/240 "2016-02-03T16:09:09Z")

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I suspect he’ll end up endorsing Hillary, either because she’s the likely eventual nominee or because Bernie is a Johnny-come-lately-Democrat who probably won’t remain one after this year if he doesn’t get the nomination.

I will likely hold my nose and support Hillary. She’s far more electable than Bernie and is better than, and closer to my views than, any of the GOP field. I’m still troubled, though, by the State Dept. email controversy, her oft-repeated lie about landing under sniper fire in Bosnia and her suspicious good fortune in commodities trading. She has little to show for her four years at State other than Benghazi, even if she did nothing wrong there. She did not come off well at all in the widely-respected 2008 campaign book _Game Change_. She bungled the healthcare reform project early in the Clinton-Gore Administration and by now has enough accumulated suspicion and bile among the Congressional GOP that I wonder just how much she’ll be able to accomplish.

Unlike in 2008 and 2012, this will be a “lesser of two evils” year for me.

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**Post date:** [February 3, 2016, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-omalley-for-president-thread/721241/241 "2016-02-03T16:43:28Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> I suspect he’ll end up endorsing Hillary, either because she’s the likely eventual nominee or because Bernie is a Johnny-come-lately-Democrat who probably won’t remain one after this year if he doesn’t get the nomination.
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> I will likely hold my nose and support Hillary. She’s far more electable than Bernie and is better than, and closer to my views than, any of the GOP field. I’m still troubled, though, by the State Dept. email controversy, her oft-repeated lie about landing under sniper fire in Bosnia and her suspicious good fortune in commodities trading. She has little to show for her four years at State other than Benghazi, even if she did nothing wrong there. She did not come off well at all in the widely-respected 2008 campaign book _Game Change_. She bungled the healthcare reform project early in the Clinton-Gore Administration and by now has enough accumulated suspicion and bile among the Congressional GOP that I wonder just how much she’ll be able to accomplish.
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> Unlike in 2008 and 2012, this will be a “lesser of two evils” year for me.

I feel close to the same way, though I don’t think any Democrat could work with the current crop of House GOP members.

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**Post date:** [February 3, 2016, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-omalley-for-president-thread/721241/242 "2016-02-03T17:15:31Z")

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O’Malley could’ve done better than either of the other two, given his experience in Annapolis, but even he would be up against some hardcore Tea Party loons, true.

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