# Martin Shkreli's trial starts today {June 26, 2017} **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 26, 2017, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-shkrelis-trial-starts-today-june-26-2017/789916 "2017-06-26T14:54:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Trom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/958977/32.png) [@Trom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trom)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2017, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-shkrelis-trial-starts-today-june-26-2017/789916/101 "2017-09-14T21:39:26Z")
> [@Punoqllads](#): > > Did you miss this part: > “Shkreli misappropriated about $120,000 from MSMB Capital Management from October 2009 to July 2011 to unlawfully pay for food, clothing, medical expenses, clothing[sic], office rent, and cash withdrawals.” > > Misappropriation = stealing more than $100,000, I guess. No? I’d say that fits within my claim that he was in over his head and desperately trying to get back in the black. ---
**Author:** ![Punoqllads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d2c977/32.png) [@Punoqllads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Punoqllads)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2017, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-shkrelis-trial-starts-today-june-26-2017/789916/102 "2017-09-15T00:37:29Z")
In my book, “in over his head” means “made some bad business deals” not “stole from the investors”. ---
**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2017, 9:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-shkrelis-trial-starts-today-june-26-2017/789916/103 "2017-09-15T09:28:52Z")
> [@Trom](#): > > I made no claim that would be the case. I said I am uncomfortable with the idea of judges using things unrelated to a criminal case when deciding on a sentence. Having never been sentenced and not being a judge or lawyer, I don’t know how common it is. I, personally, just don’t like the idea of it. I literally quoted you. Here, I’ll quote you again: > [@Trom](#): > > His sentencing will be interesting. He was on trial for fraud - nothing to do with drug pricing. To my understanding, the main consideration in fraud cases is how much money the victims lost. In this case, they lost zero - they actually made a lot of money. **I understand the schadenfreude aspect of this, but also don’t delight in the idea of a judge basing sentences on stuff that has nothing to do with the criminal proceedings.** You absolutely did assert that, in this case, the judge would be “basing sentences on stuff that has nothing to do with the criminal proceedings.” I have demonstrated that a) the sentences will be based on stuff that has everything to do with the criminal proceedings and b) that how much money the victim lost is not the main or only consideration. So congrats. You can sleep easy. > [@](#): > > Sounds like dishonest accounting to me. He literally lied about the state of investor accounts. He did a bad thing, and he should feel bad. No argument here. However, my point was that this type of fraud is different than what Madoff pulled or the shady broker siphoning off retiree’s money to offshore accounts with the explicit intention of stealing it. Lying to investors and stealing money are different actions than fudging the books. But my point was that according to your own cite, Matt Levine, Shrkeli was convicted of fraud for the investment schemes (ie - misrepresenting himself to investors) and attempted stock manipulation - “But he was acquitted of the charge of looting Retrophin to pay off his hedge funds’ investors.” So it’s in accurate to describe Shrkeli’s convictions as being for shady accounting. > [@](#): > > You’re absolutely entitled to your point of view. My read is that Shkreli was in over his head and desperate to try to get back in the black. In the pursuit of that goal he fraudulently misrepresented the situation, but in the end his scheme actually worked. There is nothing in Martin Shrkeli’s action to support him acting in good faith to his investors. When he lied to his first set of investors to raise his initial funds - that was not him being in over his head. Also, his investment schemes never worked. He just swiped the money from elsewhere to prop them up and get out of trouble. ---
**Author:** ![Trom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/958977/32.png) [@Trom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trom)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2017, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-shkrelis-trial-starts-today-june-26-2017/789916/104 "2017-09-15T14:17:50Z")
> [@Merneith](#): > > I literally quoted you. Here, I’ll quote you again: > > You absolutely did assert that, in this case, the judge would be “basing sentences on stuff that has nothing to do with the criminal proceedings.” > > I have demonstrated that a) the sentences will be based on stuff that has everything to do with the criminal proceedings and b) that how much money the victim lost is not the main or only consideration. > > So congrats. You can sleep easy. At this point I have to conclude this is misinterpretation, willful or otherwise, on your end. I could respond quoting you quoting myself and try to convince you I know what I believe, but that seems silly. I hope you sleep well, too. > [@Merneith](#): > > Lying to investors and stealing money are different actions than fudging the books. > > But my point was that according to your own cite, Matt Levine, Shrkeli was convicted of fraud for the investment schemes (ie - misrepresenting himself to investors) and attempted stock manipulation - “But he was acquitted of the charge of looting Retrophin to pay off his hedge funds’ investors.” > > So it’s in accurate to describe Shrkeli’s convictions as being for shady accounting. > > There is nothing in Martin Shrkeli’s action to support him acting in good faith to his investors. When he lied to his first set of investors to raise his initial funds - that was not him being in over his head. > > Also, his investment schemes never worked. He just swiped the money from elsewhere to prop them up and get out of trouble. I don’t believe he lied when raising capital for the initial fund. I don’t recall seeing anything about that. He lied about the account balances after he began investing and losing. I don’t see how you can conclude his scheme didn’t “work” in a monetary sense. Who lost money? As far as acting in good faith towards his investors, I’d say he did insofar as their interests happened to align with his. The guy seems like a sociopath. ---
**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2017, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-shkrelis-trial-starts-today-june-26-2017/789916/105 "2017-09-15T15:36:37Z")
> [@Trom](#): > > At this point I have to conclude this is misinterpretation, willful or otherwise, on your end. I could respond quoting you quoting myself and try to convince you I know what I believe, but that seems silly. I hope you sleep well, too. Trom - this is not about my opinions or interpretations. I keep repeating your own words. I’ll quote them a third time: > [@Trom](#): > > His sentencing will be interesting. He was on trial for fraud - nothing to do with drug pricing. To my understanding, the main consideration in fraud cases is how much money the victims lost. In this case, they lost zero - they actually made a lot of money. _I understand the schadenfreude aspect of **this** , but also don’t delight in the idea of a judge basing sentences on stuff that has nothing to do with the criminal proceedings._ This is not an interpretation or a dream sequence. This is you, Trom, speaking English, and saying, "_I understand the schadenfreude aspect of **this** , but also don’t delight in the idea of a judge basing sentences on stuff that has nothing to do with the criminal proceedings._. I know gaslighting is popular these days, but everyone on this board can now see you, Trom, saying, “_I understand the schadenfreude aspect of **this** , but also don’t delight in the idea of a judge basing sentences on stuff that has nothing to do with the criminal proceedings._” And just so you’re clear - I mean, all the rest of twigged it, but I’m sure you think you’re coy - we all understand that the antecedent (look it up) of **“this”** in that sentence is **“this case”**. IE - the Martin Shkreli case, which is the one you were claiming is the case where the judge was going to base his sentence on something other than the criminal proceedings which resulted in Shrkeli’s convictions on three counts. Your words, Trom. And as I noted by citing the actual sentencing standards, you are incorrect in state that in **this case** , the judge would be passing sentence based on something other than the criminal proceedings. Glad we got that straightened out. > [@Trom](#): > > I don’t believe he lied when raising capital for the initial fund. I don’t recall seeing anything about that. He lied about the account balances after he began investing and losing. The assertion that Martin Shkreli lied in raising capital funds for the initial investment came from **your own cite,** Trom. Which I _quoted_ in the article to which you replied. But here. Here’s the link again - which Trom originally posted in post #97, where you wrote: > [@Trom](#): > > [Here’s](https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-08-07/shkreli-s-delight-and-crypto-karma) Bloomberg lawyer-turned-humorous-columnist Matt Levine’s take on the sentencing. And here’s the direct link again to Trom’s cite, Blumberg lawyer-turned-humorous-columnist Matt Levine: [https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-08-07/shkreli-s-delight-and-crypto-karma](https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-08-07/shkreli-s-delight-and-crypto-karma) And here the quote from Matt Lavine (the guy Trom cited): > [@Blumberg lawyer-turned-humous-columnist Matt Levine](#): > > The story of the charges against Shkreli was that\*\* he lied to investors to start a hedge fund,\*\* lost all its money, lied to investors about it, started another hedge fund, lost all its money, lied to investors about it, started a pharmaceutical company called Retrophin Inc., took it public, made hundreds of millions of dollars for Retrophin’s investors, and took some of Retrophin’s money illegally to pay back the investors in the hedge funds. (The fact that Retrophin made its money by jacking up drug prices, while very much a part of the Martin Shkreli story, was not part of the case against him.) Shkreli was convicted of one count of fraud for each of the two hedge funds, plus a fraud scheme “in which he tried to quietly control a huge portion of Retrophin stock.” But he was acquitted of the charge of looting Retrophin to pay off his hedge funds’ investors. According to your own citation, Trom, Shkreli’s first move was to lie to investors to raise funds for his first hedge fund scheme. > [@](#): > > I don’t see how you can conclude his scheme didn’t “work” in a monetary sense. Who lost money? As far as acting in good faith towards his investors, I’d say he did insofar as their interests happened to align with his. The guy seems like a sociopath. “Not losing money” is not sole the metric by which a scheme is judged. The first two schemes themselves never generated any money on their own. That’s why they didn’t work. He probably expected them to make money, but they never did. The reason the investors of the first two schemes didn’t lose money was because Shrkeli “appropriated” the money from a third scheme and paid them off. This doesn’t mean that the first two schemes were successful in any way. But whether he paid them off because he was acting a bizarro world version of good faith or because he just wanted them out of his hair is an open question. It was at this point that the Feds interrupted his crime wave, so we don’t know what his next move was going to be. Given that you concede the guy is probably a sociopath, believing that he was acting with his investors best interests in mind is purely an act of faith. ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2017, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-shkrelis-trial-starts-today-june-26-2017/789916/106 "2017-09-15T16:10:27Z")
How does somebody like Shkreli exist? Is this typical of NYC wheelers and dealers? I’ve only been to NYC once, in a JFK layover, so my knowledge of the culture is minimal. From his wiki, he grew up the child of immigrant janitors, so it’s not like he was brought up spoiled and privileged. Charles Ponzi also had humble origins. How did he become such a money-sucking scumbag? Is the American Dream to blame? ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2017, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-shkrelis-trial-starts-today-june-26-2017/789916/107 "2017-09-15T16:16:03Z")
> [@Merneith](#): > > But whether he paid them off because he was acting a bizarro world version of good faith or because he just wanted them out of his hair is an open question. It was at this point that the Feds interrupted his crime wave, so we don’t know what his next move was going to be. Um, it would be another layer in the pyramid. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2017, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-shkrelis-trial-starts-today-june-26-2017/789916/108 "2017-09-15T16:19:40Z")
Same reason people who get promoted to Manager positions often turn into egotistical and unethical scumbags. They get some power and/or money and it goes straight to their heads. Success fuels ego. “I deserve this. I’m better than those people. I’ve shown I’m above those idiots!” I’m a big mouthed asshole, I admit it. It has caused me a lot of problems in my life and particularly in my career. Some of the most unforgivable sins I’ve ever committed on the job include speaking to a couple of my managers as if we were equals, as if we were both human. I could literally see their minds reeling in anger and surprise that I would dare to address them as anything more than their inferior. ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2017, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-shkrelis-trial-starts-today-june-26-2017/789916/109 "2017-09-15T16:21:51Z")
> [@Knowed\_Out](#): > > How does somebody like Shkreli exist? Is this typical of NYC wheelers and dealers? I’ve only been to NYC once, in a JFK layover, so my knowledge of the culture is minimal. The NYC wheelers and dealer all live in Manhattan, along with A) empty apartments bought by oil sheiks and Russian oligarchs as investment property; and B) the desperately poor. The rest of us all moved out to Brooklyn years ago, where we make locally-sourced, artisinal hot sauce and pickles, and listen to Indie Rock and 78 rpm records of “Sweet Georgia Brown” and “Give the Fiddler a Dram.” ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2017, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-shkrelis-trial-starts-today-june-26-2017/789916/110 "2017-09-15T16:26:37Z")
> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#): > > The NYC wheelers and dealer all live in Manhattan, along with A) empty apartments bought by oil sheiks and Russian oligarchs as investment property; and B) the desperately poor. > > The rest of us all moved out to Brooklyn years ago, where we make locally-sourced, artisinal hot sauce and pickles, and listen to Indie Rock and 78 rpm records of “Sweet Georgia Brown” and “Give the Fiddler a Dram.” Pfft. Nobody listens to “Give the Fiddler a Dram” anymore. ---
**Author:** ![Trom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/958977/32.png) [@Trom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trom)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2017, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-shkrelis-trial-starts-today-june-26-2017/789916/111 "2017-09-15T17:00:36Z")
> [@Merneith](#): > > Trom - this is not about my opinions or interpretations. I keep repeating your own words. I’ll quote them a third time: > > This is not an interpretation or a dream sequence. > > This is you, Trom, speaking English, and saying, "_I understand the schadenfreude aspect of **this** , but also don’t delight in the idea of a judge basing sentences on stuff that has nothing to do with the criminal proceedings._. > > I know gaslighting is popular these days, but everyone on this board can now see you, Trom, saying, “_I understand the schadenfreude aspect of **this** , but also don’t delight in the idea of a judge basing sentences on stuff that has nothing to do with the criminal proceedings._” > > And just so you’re clear - I mean, all the rest of twigged it, but I’m sure you think you’re coy - we all understand that the antecedent (look it up) of **“this”** in that sentence is **“this case”**. IE - the Martin Shkreli case, which is the one you were claiming is the case where the judge was going to base his sentence on something other than the criminal proceedings which resulted in Shrkeli’s convictions on three counts. > > Your words, Trom. > > And as I noted by citing the actual sentencing standards, you are incorrect in state that in **this case** , the judge would be passing sentence based on something other than the criminal proceedings. > > Glad we got that straightened out. :smack: The thread went like this: Lots of people - “SHKRELI IS A MONSTER! FUCK THAT PRICE GOUGING PIECE OF SHIT!” Me in my first post in the thread: “I understand the schadenfreude aspect of this, but also don’t delight in the idea of a judge basing sentences on stuff that has nothing to do with the criminal proceedings.” What I meant by this sentence (ha!) was I don’t like the \*\*idea \*\*of a judge considering all the hatred of Shkreli for unrelated issues when deciding on a sentence. He should be judged on the charges he was convicted of. You then incorrectly interpreted this to mean I was explicitly saying the judge would use unrelated factors when making the sentencing decision. This is an incorrect interpretation of my position and not up for debate. I’m explicitly telling you my opinion. You then asserted that I pronounced with certainty that the judge in this case would use unrelated facts. I then attempted to clarify by saying, “I made no claim that would be the case. I said I am uncomfortable with the idea of judges using things unrelated to a criminal case when deciding on a sentence.” You then went full Don Quixote and this is where we are now. You want me to be arguing that the judge is going to, in fact, make a ruling to appease the mob. I really don’t know how to proceed from here. I’m telling what I mean, which is something only I know, and you’re telling me I’m wrong. It doesn’t work like that. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2017, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-shkrelis-trial-starts-today-june-26-2017/789916/112 "2017-09-15T17:10:39Z")
This argument is as fascinating as Martin Shkreli is endearing. ---
**Author:** ![Trom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/958977/32.png) [@Trom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trom)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2017, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-shkrelis-trial-starts-today-june-26-2017/789916/113 "2017-09-15T17:14:13Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > This argument is as fascinating as Martin Shkreli is endearing. Yeah, but do you know many internet points is this one worth? ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2017, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-shkrelis-trial-starts-today-june-26-2017/789916/114 "2017-09-15T17:18:54Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > Pfft. Nobody listens to “Give the Fiddler a Dram” anymore. (Stares at you with puppy dog eyes and a quivering lip) Damn! Out-hipstered again! ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2017, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-shkrelis-trial-starts-today-june-26-2017/789916/115 "2017-09-15T20:33:12Z")
> [@Trom](#): > > :smack: > > The thread went like this: > > Lots of people - “SHKRELI IS A MONSTER! FUCK THAT PRICE GOUGING PIECE OF SHIT!” But he IS a price gouging piece of shit… Who also got caught committing fraud. ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2017, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-shkrelis-trial-starts-today-june-26-2017/789916/116 "2017-09-15T21:00:28Z")
> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#): > > (Stares at you with puppy dog eyes and a quivering lip) > > Damn! Out-hipstered again! Hmmm, now you’ve got me thinking we could take Brooklyn by storm playing old Kingston Trio-esque [whaling songs](https://youtu.be/2Gwglv2hLIQ?t=40s)… (Ah, now ya gots a hankerin’ fer ack-tual Kingston Trio whalin’ shanties, aincha? Well, [I found ya one](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQ41PLvdDlQ), ya scurvy landlubbahs…) . ---
**Author:** ![wolfman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a8b319/32.png) [@wolfman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfman)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2017, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-shkrelis-trial-starts-today-june-26-2017/789916/117 "2017-09-15T21:29:59Z")
Ultimately he 1. Is a money-gouging monumental douchebag. 2. Taunted the Feds saying there is nothing they can do to him. 3. Did something that gives them the opportunity to do something to him. Number 1 may be why it is being covered in so much detail, but 2+3 is the recipe to get your balls nailed to the wall with extra-dull nails. ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2017, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-shkrelis-trial-starts-today-june-26-2017/789916/118 "2017-09-16T01:07:02Z")
> [@digs](#): > > Hmmm, now you’ve got me thinking we could take Brooklyn by storm playing old Kingston Trio-esque [whaling songs](https://youtu.be/2Gwglv2hLIQ?t=40s)… Pfffft. The Kingston Tro is for White People. We Brooklyn hipsters listen to Evan MacColl and A.L. Lloyd’s BLOW BOYS BLOW, the favorite album of Captain Beefheart. > **[Amazon.com: Blow Boys Blow: CDs & Vinyl](https://www.amazon.com/Blow-Boys-Ewan-MacColl-Lloyd/dp/B001QTVNLE)** > > Blow Boys Blow - Ewan MacColl & A.L. Lloyd ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2017, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-shkrelis-trial-starts-today-june-26-2017/789916/119 "2017-09-16T01:34:37Z")
> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#): > > Pfffft. The Kingston Tro is for White People. We Brooklyn hipsters listen to Evan MacColl and A.L. Lloyd’s BLOW BOYS BLOW, the favorite album of Captain Beefheart. > > [https://www.amazon.com/Blow-Boys-Ewan-MacColl-Lloyd/dp/B001QTVNLE/ref=sr\_1\_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1505523764&sr=1-1&keywords=Blow+boys+blow](https://www.amazon.com/Blow-Boys-Ewan-MacColl-Lloyd/dp/B001QTVNLE/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1505523764&sr=1-1&keywords=Blow+boys+blow) Just listened to [Blow Boys Blow](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_pDvLv-R2c) on YouTube… man, that is Authentic Frontier Gibberish On A Boat! But don’t forget Bill Murray interviewing Christopher Guest’s music visionary character on Lampoon Radio Hour’s [“Insomnia Time with Ron Fields”](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akQ6NgP1avI): “Excuse me… Whaling Songs. No more country music. No more classical music. Fuhgetit, fuhgetit. Sorry, no more rock and roll. Just Whaling Songs.” To stay on topic, Christopher Guest is so douchey in that piece that he’s one percent as douchey as Shkreli. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2017, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-shkrelis-trial-starts-today-june-26-2017/789916/120 "2017-09-25T21:52:42Z")
Ha! Confirmation that Martin Shkreli is indeed in the general population of MDC in Brooklyn; > **[Martin Shkreli is in jail with terrorism and mob suspects, and no Internet |...](https://boingboing.net/2017/09/25/martin-shkreli-is-in-jail-with.html?fk_bb)** > > American businessman Martin Shkreli is locked up with the general population at the Metropolitan Detention Center in New York City. It will be his home for the next four months, until he’s se… And verified here; [https://www.bop.gov/inmateloc/](https://www.bop.gov/inmateloc/) MARTIN SHKRELI Register Number: 87850-053 Age: 34 Race: White Sex: Male Located at: Brooklyn MDC Release Date: UNKNOWN :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D 80 29TH STREET BROOKLYN, NY 11232 Email: BRO/ExecAssistant@bop.gov Phone: 718-840-4200 Fax: 718-840-5005 Inmate Gender: Male and Female Offenders Population: 1,876 Total Inmates Judicial District: Eastern New York County: KINGS BOP Region: Northeast Region [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-shkrelis-trial-starts-today-june-26-2017/789916.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-shkrelis-trial-starts-today-june-26-2017/789916.md?page=7)