# Martin Shkreli's trial starts today {June 26, 2017}

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 26, 2017, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-shkrelis-trial-starts-today-june-26-2017/789916 "2017-06-26T14:54:00Z")\
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**Author:** ![Projammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/projammer/32/559_2.png) [@Projammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Projammer)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2018, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-shkrelis-trial-starts-today-june-26-2017/789916/141 "2018-03-06T23:48:45Z")

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I read an article earlier today stating that federal sentencing guidelines call for 27 years to 33.75 years of incarceration. We can only hope.

[USA Today](https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2018/03/06/feds-defense-lawyers-battle-over-pharma-bro-martin-shkrelis-recommended-sentence/400386002/)

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2018, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-shkrelis-trial-starts-today-june-26-2017/789916/142 "2018-03-07T22:20:38Z")

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> [@Projammer](#):
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> I read an article earlier today stating that federal sentencing guidelines call for 27 years to 33.75 years of incarceration. We can only hope.
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> [USA Today](https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2018/03/06/feds-defense-lawyers-battle-over-pharma-bro-martin-shkrelis-recommended-sentence/400386002/)

So go easy on him … only 32.75 years 😃

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**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2018, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-shkrelis-trial-starts-today-june-26-2017/789916/143 "2018-03-09T19:09:42Z")

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Survey says - 7 years, with credit for six months served, and he has to fork over 7.5 million in assets.

> **[It’s 7 years in prison for Martin Shkreli, convicted of fraud](https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2018/03/martin-shkreli-sentenced-to-7-years-in-prison-for-fraud/)**
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> He faced up to 20 years on three counts of fraud.

He’s appealing … wait. I’ll rephrase. Shkrelli plans to appeal his sentence. He shed tears during his sentencing statement; the judge handed him a box of tissues.

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**Author:** ![FloatyGimpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/floatygimpy/32/7750_2.png) [@FloatyGimpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FloatyGimpy)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2018, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-shkrelis-trial-starts-today-june-26-2017/789916/144 "2018-03-09T19:18:47Z")

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> [@Merneith](#):
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> … He shed tears during his sentencing statement; **the judge handed him a box of tissues**.

This made me smile 🙂

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2018, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-shkrelis-trial-starts-today-june-26-2017/789916/145 "2018-03-09T20:33:50Z")

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> [@Merneith](#):
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> Survey says - 7 years, with credit for six months served, and he has to fork over 7.5 million in assets.
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> [It’s 7 years in prison for Martin Shkreli, convicted of fraud | Ars Technica](https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2018/03/martin-shkreli-sentenced-to-7-years-in-prison-for-fraud/)
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> He’s appealing … wait. I’ll rephrase. Shkrelli plans to appeal his sentence. He shed tears during his sentencing statement; the judge handed him a box of tissues.

When the judge realized that Shkrelli needed them, he hiked up the price to $10,000 per tissue.

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**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2018, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-shkrelis-trial-starts-today-june-26-2017/789916/146 "2018-03-09T20:34:28Z")

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And this the state of America today: hurt people with a potentially terminal illness, nobody who can do anything about it does jack shit (Daraprim is _still_ $750/pill today); steal from rich people, go to prison for 7 years.

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**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2018, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-shkrelis-trial-starts-today-june-26-2017/789916/147 "2018-03-09T20:46:42Z")

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From the article:

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> In today’s sentencing hearing, Brafman reportedly read letters of support from Shkreli’s fellow inmates.

I’m…uncertain that’s a great strategy for getting a favorable sentence from a judge. Perhaps letters of support from non-incarcerees would have been more effective.

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2018, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-shkrelis-trial-starts-today-june-26-2017/789916/148 "2018-03-09T21:08:18Z")

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So he’s like Lil Gideon with his prison gang now?

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2018, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-shkrelis-trial-starts-today-june-26-2017/789916/149 "2018-03-09T22:13:40Z")

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> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> When the judge realized that Shkrelli needed them, he hiked up the price to $10,000 per tissue.

Win!!! 😃

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2018, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-shkrelis-trial-starts-today-june-26-2017/789916/150 "2018-03-09T22:15:23Z")

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> [@DCnDC](#):
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> And this the state of America today: hurt people with a potentially terminal illness, nobody who can do anything about it does jack shit (Daraprim is _still_ $750/pill today); steal from rich people, go to prison for 7 years.

Yup. If it’s just poor people, then “it’s just business”, or “it wasn’t strictly illegal”, or just “aw fuck them”.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2018, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-shkrelis-trial-starts-today-june-26-2017/789916/151 "2018-03-10T02:20:17Z")

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I’m disappointed in the sentence. From here, it looks like crime pays.

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**Author:** ![wolfman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a8b319/32.png) [@wolfman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfman)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2018, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-shkrelis-trial-starts-today-june-26-2017/789916/152 "2018-03-10T03:03:00Z")

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> [@DCnDC](#):
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> And this the state of America today: hurt people with a potentially terminal illness, nobody who can do anything about it does jack shit (Daraprim is _still_ $750/pill today); steal from rich people, go to prison for 7 years.

It’s more like 30% for stealing from rich people, and 70% for waving his dick in the G-men’s faces saying “You can’t touch me, I’m smarter than you.”

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**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2019, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-shkrelis-trial-starts-today-june-26-2017/789916/153 "2019-04-04T16:36:09Z")

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Shkreli is now in solitary confinement after being caught running his business with a contraband phone.

> **[Martin Shkreli in solitary confinement after running company from prison,...](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/martin-shkreli-solitary-confinement-for-pharma-bro-after-running-company-from-prison-report-says/)**
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> Federal investigators had been probing whether the so-called "Pharma Bro" was using a contraband cellphone behind bars

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> Shkreli turned to illegal cellphone use to run the drug company Phoenixus AG, formerly known as Turing Pharmaceuticals, while serving a seven-year sentence for lying to investors in two failed hedge funds, The Wall Street Journal reported last month.
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> Using the contraband mobile phone, Shkreli reportedly fired the company’s chief executive, who was on a safari. Shkreli was also regularly posting to social media, creating a new Twitter account under the name @sriole, although that account was no longer active soon after the Journal’s report. Previously, Shkreli&nbsp;had been&nbsp;suspended from Twitter for violating its rules against harassment.

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**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2019, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-shkrelis-trial-starts-today-june-26-2017/789916/154 "2019-04-04T18:56:59Z")

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> [@DCnDC](#):
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> And this the state of America today: hurt people with a potentially terminal illness, nobody who can do anything about it does jack shit (Daraprim is _still_ $750/pill today); steal from rich people, go to prison for 7 years.

As another reminder, daraprim is $0.02 to $0.10 a pill in Brazil and India. And Australia, and Switzerland sell it for about $0.25 a pill while it costs $750 a pill in America.

And it’s illegal for Americans to import drugs from Other countries. 'cause safety. Can’t have those under developed Swiss or Australians selling us bunk medications.

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2019, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-shkrelis-trial-starts-today-june-26-2017/789916/155 "2019-04-04T20:26:15Z")

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> [@Wesley\_Clark](#):
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> As another reminder, daraprim is $0.02 to $0.10 a pill in Brazil and India. And Australia, and Switzerland sell it for about $0.25 a pill while it costs $750 a pill in America.

Yeah but that’s because those countries hate innovators and also freedom and also your job creators and also are SOCIALISM. So, errr, there.

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**Author:** ![pohjonen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pohjonen/32/423_2.png) [@pohjonen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pohjonen)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2019, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-shkrelis-trial-starts-today-june-26-2017/789916/156 "2019-04-04T22:38:10Z")

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> [@Wesley\_Clark](#):
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> As another reminder, daraprim is $0.02 to $0.10 a pill in Brazil and India. And Australia, and Switzerland sell it for about $0.25 a pill while it costs $750 a pill in America.
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> And it’s illegal for Americans to import drugs from Other countries. 'cause safety. Can’t have those under developed Swiss or Australians selling us bunk medications.

Well, you know how those furriners are - whipping up prescription drugs for export in their huts of sticks and dung.

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2019, 5:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-shkrelis-trial-starts-today-june-26-2017/789916/157 "2019-04-05T05:40:48Z")

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I wish my hut had dung. ☹

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2019, 1:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-shkrelis-trial-starts-today-june-26-2017/789916/158 "2019-04-05T13:07:28Z")

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> [@Wesley\_Clark](#):
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> As another reminder, daraprim is $0.02 to $0.10 a pill in Brazil and India. And Australia, and Switzerland sell it for about $0.25 a pill while it costs $750 a pill in America.
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> And it’s illegal for Americans to import drugs from Other countries. 'cause safety. Can’t have those under developed Swiss or Australians selling us bunk medications.

This is why some things just shouldn’t be commercialized.

If we’re in the desert and I’m the only one selling drinkable water for the next 100 miles, and I know you need water, I can charge whatever the hell I want for it (provided I can defend myself of course).

This is how the healthcare system, and in particular Big Pharma, operates. They corrupt capitalism by using patients’ demand for the drug (like they need it to friggin live, essentially) and they compound that by virtue of the fact that they, with the help of congress, control the supply.

This is how oligarchy works, and it’s not just in healthcare but it’s also creeping into other aspects of the American economy – take the housing crisis in cities like Seattle, for instance. You want to stay in this apartment another year? Okay, well I want you to stay, too, but I’m raising your rates from $1000 / month to $2000 – because I can, because the guy down the street has a crappier version of my place and he’s charging $1750 / month, and he’s got waiting lists even. Now if you’ll excuse me, I have a city council meeting to attend. They’re proposing building a new apartment complex nearby and I want to be sure my buddies on the Council vote it down so we can jack up the rent even more.

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**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2019, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-shkrelis-trial-starts-today-june-26-2017/789916/159 "2019-04-06T21:24:21Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> This is why some things just shouldn’t be commercialized.
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> If we’re in the desert and I’m the only one selling drinkable water for the next 100 miles, and I know you need water, I can charge whatever the hell I want for it (provided I can defend myself of course).
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> This is how the healthcare system, and in particular Big Pharma, operates. They corrupt capitalism by using patients’ demand for the drug (like they need it to friggin live, essentially) and they compound that by virtue of the fact that they, with the help of congress, control the supply.
> 
> This is how oligarchy works, and it’s not just in healthcare but it’s also creeping into other aspects of the American economy – take the housing crisis in cities like Seattle, for instance. You want to stay in this apartment another year? Okay, well I want you to stay, too, but I’m raising your rates from $1000 / month to $2000 – because I can, because the guy down the street has a crappier version of my place and he’s charging $1750 / month, and he’s got waiting lists even. Now if you’ll excuse me, I have a city council meeting to attend. They’re proposing building a new apartment complex nearby and I want to be sure my buddies on the Council vote it down so we can jack up the rent even more.

Its more like there are multiple water vendors, but this one is in cahoots with the government so they both agree to make it illegal to buy water from any vendor but this one. Then they jack up the prices to $500 a bottle while all the other vendors sell it for $0.20 a bottle.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2020, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-shkrelis-trial-starts-today-june-26-2017/789916/160 "2020-04-07T22:35:18Z")

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[The Most Punchable Face In America says he can develop a cure for Covid-19 in 3 months!](https://apnews.com/d7209508da9d2edaa0bad6932611b4b0)

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> Convicted former drug company CEO Martin Shkreli, known as “Pharma Bro,” wants to get out of prison so he can help research a treatment for the coronavirus, his lawyer said Tuesday.
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> Defense attorney Ben Brafman said that he will file court papers asking federal authorities to release Shkreli for three months so he can do laboratory work “under strict supervision.”

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> “I have always said that if focused and left in a lab, Martin could help cure cancer,” Brafman said in a statement. “Maybe he can help the scientific community better understand this terrible virus.”
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> In a research proposal posted online, Shkreli called the pharmaceutical industry’s response to the pandemic “inadequate” and said researchers at every drug company “should be put to work until COVID-19 is no more.”
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> Shkreli wrote that his background “as a successful two-time biopharma entrepreneur, having purchased multiple companies, invented multiple new drug candidates” would make him a valuable asset.
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> “I am one of the few executives experienced in ALL aspects of drug development,” he said, adding, “I do not expect to profit in any way, shape or form from coronavirus-related treatments.”

Dude, you’re a fucking financial predator; what the fuck use would you be in a lab? 😕

Shut the fuck up and serve your sentence you piece of shit.

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