# Martin/Zimmerman: humble opinions and speculation thread **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [April 18, 2012, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-zimmerman-humble-opinions-and-speculation-thread/619125 "2012-04-18T04:41:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 4691
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2012, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-zimmerman-humble-opinions-and-speculation-thread/619125/4691 "2012-08-01T22:51:04Z")
> [@sugaree](#): > > I am sure that book was the cutting edge of medical research in 1895, but perhaps we could keep our cites a little more recent. And hunting stories only count if the animal was autopsied by a medical professional, not just field dressed and eaten. [Ok:](http://www.amazon.com/Gunshot-Wounds-Ballistics-Techniques-Investigations/dp/0849381630/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1343861557&sr=8-1&keywords=gunshot+wounds) > [@Shot through the heart, is death instantaneous?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/shot-through-the-heart-is-death-instantaneous/531511/19): > > Dr. Vincent DiMiao, in his book _Gunshot Wounds_, documents a case where a man was shot in the heart at a range of 3-4 ft with a 12ga shotgun firing #7.5 birdshot. The guy’s heart was shredded, but he turned and ran 65 feet before collapsing. If anything is going to stop you in your tracks, you would hope that would be on the list. > > Anecdotally, I was at a wound ballistics seminar, and I heard a police officer relate the tale of a suspect who was holding a shotgun on two people. The police sniper fired a .223 bullet that pierced the man’s heart. He was still able to fire the shotgun at one person, rack the slide, and was preparing to fire again when the sniper put a second shot into his head. Obviously the second claim is anecdotal, but on what basis do you reject the first? --- _[View the full topic](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martin-zimmerman-humble-opinions-and-speculation-thread/619125)._