# Marty (1955)

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** movies\
**Created:** [December 7, 2023, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marty-1955/994211 "2023-12-07T02:23:43Z")\
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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2023, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marty-1955/994211/1 "2023-12-07T02:23:43Z")

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Watching _Marty_ (1955) on TCMHD. We really love this movie. Before Mrs. L.A., I could relate to Ernest Borgnine’s character (‘Ma, sooner or later, there comes a point in a man’s life when he’s gotta face some facts. And one fact I gotta face is that, whatever it is that women like, I ain’t got it.’); and I felt for Betsy Blair’s ‘plain’ character. I thought she was attractive.

Also ‘Sergeant Carter’ is a schmuck.

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2023, 7:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marty-1955/994211/2 "2023-12-07T07:42:12Z")

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I love _Marty_. I don’t know when I first saw it, but I never get tired of it. Romantic dramas can be hard to pull off, but _Marty_ ticks all the checkboxes. I also felt for Betsy Blair’s character—she’s hardly who Marty’s mother would think of as “a real tomato,” as she feels can be found at the Stardust Ballroom. Rising tension through the film between Marty and his mother, his aunt, and his friends, until Marty finally says:

You don’t like her, my mother don’t like her, she’s a dog and I’m a fat, ugly man! Well, all I know is I had a good time last night! I’m gonna have a good time tonight! If we have enough good times together, I’m gonna get down on my knees and I’m gonna beg that girl to marry me! If we make a party on New Year’s, I got a date for that party. You don’t like her? That’s too bad!

Damn! That’s powerful, and puts everybody in their place. I’m going to use that for a monologue the next time I audition for community theatre.

And again, damn! Sad that I missed it tonight on TCM. I’ll look for the DVD; I need to see _Marty_ again.

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**Author:** ![zbuzz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e19b73/32.png) [@zbuzz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zbuzz)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2023, 9:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marty-1955/994211/3 "2023-12-07T09:51:48Z")

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Wait a minute.

Marty. 1955.

Is there a DeLorean in this movie?

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2023, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marty-1955/994211/4 "2023-12-07T14:20:03Z")

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> [@zbuzz](#):
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> Is there a DeLorean in this movie?

There is, but it is mistaken for a space ship.

Marty is Clara’s density.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2023, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marty-1955/994211/5 "2023-12-07T14:51:35Z")

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Marty is an excellent film.

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**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2023, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marty-1955/994211/6 "2023-12-07T17:53:14Z")

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The 1953 TV version was great too. The cast included Rod Steiger (_ **In the Heat of the Night** _, _ **The Pawnbroker** _), Nancy Marchand (_ **Lou** _ _ **Grant** _, _ **The** _ _ **Sopranos** _), Betsy Palmer (_ **Mr** _ _ **Roberts** _). Howard Caine (_ **Hogan’s** _ _ **Heroes** _), Nehemiah Persoff (_ **The** _ _ **Untouchables** _, _ **Some Like It Hot** _), and George Maharis (_ **Route** _ _ **66** _).

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2023, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marty-1955/994211/7 "2023-12-07T18:04:29Z")

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What do you wanna do tonight?

I dunno Angie. What do _you_ wanna do?

My wife and I use this exchange quite often.

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**Author:** ![Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mean_mr.mustard/32/3865_2.png) [@Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mean_Mr.Mustard)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2023, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marty-1955/994211/8 "2023-12-07T18:07:35Z")

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It makes me happy to see this movie get some love.

mmm

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**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2023, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marty-1955/994211/9 "2023-12-07T18:21:20Z")

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Trivium  
_Marty_ is the only movie to win both the Academy Award for Best Picture and the Cannes Festival’s Palme d’Or.

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**Author:** ![Schnitte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/schnitte/32/9033_2.png) [@Schnitte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Schnitte)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2023, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marty-1955/994211/10 "2023-12-07T18:27:56Z")

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Fun fact: _Marty_ was the subject matter in one of the pivotal questions of the 1950s quiz show scandal. Ruling champion Herb Stempel was facing charismatic newcomer Charles Van Doren on a show called _Twenty One_. The producers wanted Van Doren to win, so they instructed Stempel to answer a question about the 1955 Best Picture Oscar winner incorrectly (correct answer was _Marty_). Stempel complied, answering _On The Waterfront_. Later, Stempel broke the story to journalists, and he has since added that it was particularly painful for him to lose on this question, since _Marty_ was his favourite film.

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**Author:** ![Schnitte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/schnitte/32/9033_2.png) [@Schnitte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Schnitte)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2023, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marty-1955/994211/11 "2023-12-07T18:29:33Z")

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I also remember someone claim that _Marty_ was the most forgotten film ever to win thge Best Picture Oscar, in terms of being remembered in public awareness. I’m not sure I’d agree, and I don’t remember where exactly I heard it; it might have been in an exhibition on the history of the Oscars in a film museum I’ve visited.

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**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2023, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marty-1955/994211/12 "2023-12-08T02:42:45Z")

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Boy, that Paddy Chayefsky. Boy, could he write.

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**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2023, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marty-1955/994211/13 "2023-12-08T02:48:39Z")

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In _Marty_ his characters moved and spoke naturally, but in _The Hospital_ and _Network_ the lines are more like grand pronouncements, and the punchlines heavily telegraphed. A lot of what we’d get again later from Aaron Sorkin.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2023, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marty-1955/994211/14 "2023-12-08T04:46:07Z")

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> What do you wanna do tonight?
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> I dunno Angie. What do _you_ wanna do?
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> My wife and I use this exchange quite often.

So do I, but too many people either dont get it, or think itr is the Vultures from Jungle Book.

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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2023, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marty-1955/994211/15 "2023-12-08T13:18:42Z")

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> [@Saint\_Cad](#):
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> Trivium  
> _Marty_ is the only movie to win both the Academy Award for Best Picture and the Cannes Festival’s Palme d’Or.

There are two others.

The Lost Weekend (1945) won Academy Awards Best Picture and also the top award at Cannes which was called the Grand Prix at the time.

Parasite (2019) properly won both accolades.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2023, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marty-1955/994211/16 "2023-12-08T20:10:14Z")

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I’ve not seen the remake. Does the new protagonist do anywhere as well as Ernest Borgnine?

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**Author:** ![Push\_You\_Down](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/push_you_down/32/9095_2.png) [@Push\_You\_Down](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Push_You_Down)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2023, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marty-1955/994211/17 "2023-12-08T21:32:39Z")

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The sooner or later speech audio was making the rounds on tik/tok and instagram some months back. I hope it made some people curious enough to track down the movie.

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**Author:** ![MortSahlFan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3bc359/32.png) [@MortSahlFan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MortSahlFan)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2023, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marty-1955/994211/18 "2023-12-13T15:23:29Z")

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of course Betsy Blair is attractive… They wouldn’t take a chance and risk the financial rewards by putting someone who wasn’t attractive.

Fine movie and it’s on TCM again.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2023, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marty-1955/994211/19 "2023-12-13T16:03:08Z")

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> [@MortSahlFan](#):
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> Fine movie and it’s on TCM again.

I don’t see it on the schedule. I do see it in TCM On Demand though.

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**Author:** ![MortSahlFan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3bc359/32.png) [@MortSahlFan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MortSahlFan)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2023, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marty-1955/994211/20 "2023-12-23T19:14:19Z")

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Hope you saw it. I notice a friend in another time zone having different scheduled stuff, but I think they always put it on-demand afterwards for a while.

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