# Martyr #7 has also been banned **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 27, 1999, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martyr-7-has-also-been-banned/2644 "1999-10-27T15:20:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Diane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/2acd7d/32.png) [@Diane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diane)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 1999, 5:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martyr-7-has-also-been-banned/2644/21 "1999-10-28T05:42:00Z")
> [@](#): > > C#3/M#7 wish to thank you for the kind words, but they’d also like to remind you that it doesn’t matter if you or one hundred other members enjoyed his posts. The admins don’t care. They decided long ago that they hate him and it’s their ball and they’ll just take it and go home if they wish. You really should see someone about that multiple personality problem. ## You have the wrong ballgame. In this game, they don’t take the ball and go home, they just kick you out of the game. Afterall, it’s their ball field so they get to make the rules. \>^,^\< KITTEN If ignorance is bliss, you must be orgasmic. ---
**Author:** ![Cheiflaffitup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/848f3c/32.png) [@Cheiflaffitup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheiflaffitup)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 1999, 5:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martyr-7-has-also-been-banned/2644/22 "1999-10-28T05:45:00Z")
He has but one personality at a time. He has never used mutiple handles. ---
**Author:** ![Satan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Satan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Satan)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 1999, 5:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martyr-7-has-also-been-banned/2644/23 "1999-10-28T05:47:00Z")
I posted this in another thread on the subject: > [@](#): > > I had very few problems with C#3. > > I agreed that Melin being ousted as a moderator was within reason, because she had ample opportunities to agree to play by the rules of being a moderator and chose not to. AND, might I add, nobody has kicked her off the board as a poster. She is still here. > > But this is different. > > It’s obvious that C#3 ruffled some feathers with his tactics here. I didn’t always agree with what he said, but I think he should have a right to say what is on his mind. People were free to ignore him or not. > > Moderators have the power to delete or modify posts. Apparently, this wasn’t enough? > > I disagree with Melin’s assertion that my strap-on post is analagous to this incident. I understand that the concern was over a link - but that is even more hypocritical, since tons of threads offer tons of links to tons of sites of many kinds. > > But even if we were to assume she is right, that it’s the risque portion that caused an uproar, wouldn’t things have been a hell of a lot different if, all those years ago, Cecil got dropped from the Chicago Reader because of his calorie content of sperm column? > > So a post had to be deleted twice… Really tough job there. And I firmly believe he made an honest mistake, and that it was only his reputation that preceeded him. If the same thing happened to, say, Byzantine or Polycarp, would the mods here be so quick to cancel them out? > > I realize that the administrators here can run this board however they want. Free speech rights do not apply in a private domain. And being here is not a right, but a priviledge. > > I just hope that the powers that be here DO realize that the spirit of this board is about opening lines of communication. > > How can you eliminate ignorance if you’re so content to burn books? The first part of ignorance is “ignore,” and that is exactly what the mods are content to do - to ignore C#3’s opinions, and now prevent them from being heard by everyone. > > I am not happy with this at all… > > If I am mistaken on any of the facts (from my initial research, I don’t think I am), please feel free to e-mail me privately at [brian.oneill@bmge.com](mailto:brian.oneill@bmge.com) . Now I read here, he was banned simply for being a jerk. To which I have a few questions: (1) Which is it? Specific issue over this porn-link? Or is that twice as much information - was it the link iself or was it the porn itself? Or was it because he spent a lot of time being a jerk? It seems that one person here says one thing, while another says another. I always maintained that, even though Melin was wrong, the authorities on this board did not handle the situation well at all. I guess they haven’t learned… (2) Isn’t being a jerk a subjective thing? Yes, he was often caustic. But he also made some good points WHILE being a “jerk,” and often was not a jerk at all. In fact, to be totally impartial about it, I saw several occassions where “enlightened” Dopers were total jerks to him when he posted something that was valid and not inflamatory, simply because of his reputation or previous flame wars. This is to be condoned? (3) Whether you want to take EITHER reason for his termination, in BOTH cases you will find that others here are just as “guilty.” Others have posted risque material. Others have posted links (and sometimes TO risque material). Others have certainly been jerks. Isn’t his dismissal all based on things which seem to have been selectively enforced? Call me nutty, but this reeks of a personal vendetta against a chronic boat-rocker whose words and ideas went against the mainstream and were often worded in an inflamatory manner. Since I kinda like the idea of different view points, and i am not prone to knee-jerk reactions to the way things are worded, I have a problem with this. I don’t like it one bit… * * * Yer pal, Satan ---
**Author:** ![Mullinator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@Mullinator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mullinator)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 1999, 5:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martyr-7-has-also-been-banned/2644/24 "1999-10-28T05:50:00Z")
Does anyone else consider this 3rd person referencing slightly odd? Either that or C#3/M#7/etc is a professional athlete in real life thinking he is giving a postgame interview. * * * All generalizations suck. ---
**Author:** ![Cheiflaffitup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/848f3c/32.png) [@Cheiflaffitup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheiflaffitup)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 1999, 5:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martyr-7-has-also-been-banned/2644/25 "1999-10-28T05:53:00Z")
Well there was that one time he tried out for the US Olympic curling team… ---
**Author:** ![Satan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Satan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Satan)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 1999, 5:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martyr-7-has-also-been-banned/2644/26 "1999-10-28T05:56:00Z")
I don’t find it odd that he is referring to himself in the third person. They booted the C#3 handle because… Well… I guess we don’t know yet. The administrators don’t seem to have their story straight yet. They then booted the M#7 handle because… Well, a few mods said they wouldn’t do it because it was he, but since it was he, it was booted. Again, I must ask, don’t these moderators communicate on these things? Even a little? So, of course, whatever new identity he has will refer to C#3/M#7 in the third person. Because he is getting booted no matter what… May as well deflect something and create even a little doubt so MAYBE th mods might wait a few more posts before he has to create ANOTHER identity… ---
**Author:** ![Gaudere](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e495f1/32.png) [@Gaudere](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gaudere)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 1999, 5:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martyr-7-has-also-been-banned/2644/27 "1999-10-28T05:59:00Z")
The problem, to me at least, is that he posted a link to a business site where he would make money if people signed up. This is spam. I have zero tolerance for that. Anyone who intentionally posts spam should be booted immediately, as a severe warning the them and others. That said, I have no problem with him coming back as Kontestant #3 or whatever. If someone who is kicked out for spamming posts another spam, they should be hounded like the vermin they are and deleted as soon as they are detected. I trust that C#3 will not make that mistake again. * * * “Happiness is nonetheless true happiness because it must come to an end, nor do thought and love lose their value because they are not everlasting.” - Bertrand Russell ---
**Author:** ![Gaudere](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e495f1/32.png) [@Gaudere](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gaudere)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 1999, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martyr-7-has-also-been-banned/2644/28 "1999-10-27T18:00:00Z")
“a severe warning **to** them” is what I meant to say. ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 1999, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martyr-7-has-also-been-banned/2644/29 "1999-10-27T18:03:00Z")
That’s the issue, isn’t it? You’re on a moderated board, you piss off the mods (for whatever reason), you get booted. Then you sing on with another user name and post some more. 'Course, there’s two choices there. You can either play by the rules and avoid pissing the mods off, or you make a scene because you think you shouldn’t have been kicked. -andros- ---
**Author:** ![Satan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Satan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Satan)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 1999, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martyr-7-has-also-been-banned/2644/30 "1999-10-27T18:04:00Z")
Gaudere: I too, hate spam, and have hapilly gotten MANY spammers to USENET in trouble with harsh forwards to their ISP’s and news posting service. The post in question, however, was in a thread ABOUT people getting paid to surf the net, and he was showing his as an example. If you send away for a catalog, do you consider it junk mail when it hits your mailbox? And I maintain (in another thread) that SOME administrators say it was just because he was banned for “chronic violations of Rule #1, don’t be a jerk.” while others site this thread issue. Which is it? ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 1999, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martyr-7-has-also-been-banned/2644/31 "1999-10-27T18:04:00Z")
It’s catching, Gaudere 😉 That’s “ **sign** on.” ---
**Author:** ![Cheiflaffitup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/848f3c/32.png) [@Cheiflaffitup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheiflaffitup)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 1999, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martyr-7-has-also-been-banned/2644/32 "1999-10-27T18:06:00Z")
Gaudere, I can supply dozens of links out here posted by dozens of others that are to sites that sell their wares. What’s the diff jiff? ---
**Author:** ![Cheiflaffitup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/848f3c/32.png) [@Cheiflaffitup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheiflaffitup)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 1999, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martyr-7-has-also-been-banned/2644/33 "1999-10-27T18:08:00Z")
In fact: [http://www.straightdope.com/ubb/Forum2/HTML/000278.html](http://www.straightdope.com/ubb/Forum2/HTML/000278.html) Check’em out…you might want to buy something. ---
**Author:** ![Gaudere](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e495f1/32.png) [@Gaudere](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gaudere)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 1999, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martyr-7-has-also-been-banned/2644/34 "1999-10-27T18:10:00Z")
I don’t know. Maybe it’s jerk-like to post spam. I would certainly think so. I don’t mind posting links that show you how to get paid for surfing the web, particuarly on that particular thread. But I STRONGLY object to allowing ANY POSTER to make money off of the teeming millions. Chicago Reader and our sponsors excluded, of course, since they provide us with this board. I would have had no objection if he posted the link without his ID. If he had told people his ID # and had them sign up under it I would consider that wrong as well. If people can make money off this board we’re going to be buried in spam. I don’t want to allow even a teeny tiny foot in the door. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/original/2X/e/e489c3b7d8fce19c4b355dd4fc3f88cc39c34b87.png) [@system](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 1999, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martyr-7-has-also-been-banned/2644/35 "1999-10-27T18:10:00Z")
Satan, go to the thread linked above in Andros’ post. Martyr #7 made an argument, then Chieflaffitup supported him, then Martyr #7 was banned. I think they got rid of M #7 because he was using 2 screenname at once. -John ---
**Author:** ![Gaudere](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e495f1/32.png) [@Gaudere](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gaudere)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 1999, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martyr-7-has-also-been-banned/2644/36 "1999-10-27T18:12:00Z")
I saw those links before, C#3. I don’t object to posting business sites, just ones where the poster will get some benefit out of posting them, i.e., they are an employee or have their ID in the link. ---
**Author:** ![Cheiflaffitup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/848f3c/32.png) [@Cheiflaffitup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheiflaffitup)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 1999, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martyr-7-has-also-been-banned/2644/37 "1999-10-27T18:13:00Z")
Wrong Johnny. The sequence was: C#3 banned M#7 banned Cheiflaffitup emerges out of stasis. ---
**Author:** ![Cheiflaffitup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/848f3c/32.png) [@Cheiflaffitup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheiflaffitup)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 1999, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martyr-7-has-also-been-banned/2644/38 "1999-10-27T18:15:00Z")
Gaudere, How is it that you know that those posters weren’t deriving financial benefit from sales resulting from those links? ---
**Author:** ![Gaudere](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e495f1/32.png) [@Gaudere](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gaudere)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 1999, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martyr-7-has-also-been-banned/2644/39 "1999-10-27T18:17:00Z")
I don’t. But I know damn well _you_ were. ---
**Author:** ![Satan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Satan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Satan)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 1999, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martyr-7-has-also-been-banned/2644/40 "1999-10-27T18:23:00Z")
Actually, Gaudere, the link was provided, and it showed HOW you could set it up to make C#3 money, but the link itself did not, upon being clicked, put money in his pocket. You had to follow specific instructions to reach that point AFTER you got to the link. From what I’ve seen, anyway. I am gathering information for the “Starr Report.” Anyone who has any can feel free to e-mail me privately at [brian.oneill@bmge.com](mailto:brian.oneill@bmge.com) . [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martyr-7-has-also-been-banned/2644.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/martyr-7-has-also-been-banned/2644.md?page=3)