# Marvel Agents of SHIELD

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-agents-of-shield/669608>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [September 25, 2013, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-agents-of-shield/669608 "2013-09-25T00:55:46Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2013, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-agents-of-shield/669608/181 "2013-10-01T16:22:51Z")

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Anyone know if the full 2nd episode including credits will be available online after the regular airing like the 1st episode was?

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**Author:** ![bienville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@bienville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bienville)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2013, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-agents-of-shield/669608/182 "2013-10-01T18:22:06Z")

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> [@Telemark](#):
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> Anyone know if the full 2nd episode including credits will be available online after the regular airing like the 1st episode was?

I watched episode 1 on Hulu, which has this message on the Agents of SHIELD page:

[QUOTE=Hulu]  
We are able to post the last five episodes from the current season of Marvel’s Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. The episodes posted may vary based on ABC’s on-air schedule.  
[/QUOTE]  
so, I assume they expect that to be true of the whole season.

Someone upthread said they watched on ABC’s website and that there were no commericlas. :smack: I had just automatically gone to Hulu without thinking about it. Anyway, if Hulu anticipates having the whole season then I would assume ABC intends to put the whole season on their website as well. I’ll be checking ABC’s website first tomorrow since I’m happy to do without commercials if that’s an option.

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**Author:** ![Lasciel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e79b87/32.png) [@Lasciel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lasciel)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2013, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-agents-of-shield/669608/183 "2013-10-01T20:50:46Z")

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That was me and I was shocked as hell, to be perfectly frank. I was totally not expecting a commercial-free watching experience, but if it’s on the website that way, that’s the only way I can get to it. I’m sure not going to complain.

I’m hoping the other episodes post as well. The only trouble with the website is that for the pilot, the area of the screen with the credits shrunk so they could flog the next show in the queue. If that happens for the teaser, I might not get to see it clearly due to the size.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2013, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-agents-of-shield/669608/184 "2013-10-01T21:09:44Z")

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> [@bienville](#):
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> Someone upthread said they watched on ABC’s website and that there were no commericlas. :smack: I had just automatically gone to Hulu without thinking about it.

Even worse, here - I went straight to iTunes and bought it. :smack:

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**Author:** ![AtomicDog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ac91a4/32.png) [@AtomicDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AtomicDog)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2013, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-agents-of-shield/669608/185 "2013-10-02T00:11:22Z")

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Tonight’s episode - could that be an Ultimate Nullifier?

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**Author:** ![AtomicDog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ac91a4/32.png) [@AtomicDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AtomicDog)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2013, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-agents-of-shield/669608/186 "2013-10-02T00:17:24Z")

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Nah. Too big.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2013, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-agents-of-shield/669608/187 "2013-10-02T00:57:26Z")

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You know, this show is reminding me of a live-action _Jonny Quest_, but with hot babes. Er, that’s a good thing.

Re: “the Bus”, they could just go ahead and call it _Serenity_. 😃

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**Author:** ![Mr.Miskatonic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.miskatonic/32/310_2.png) [@Mr.Miskatonic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Miskatonic)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2013, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-agents-of-shield/669608/188 "2013-10-02T01:01:57Z")

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Well look who showed up!

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2013, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-agents-of-shield/669608/189 "2013-10-02T01:06:39Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Rumor has it that there is going to be a post-credits cameo in the second episode.

Yep.

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**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2013, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-agents-of-shield/669608/190 "2013-10-02T01:20:49Z")

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Ain’t no motherfucking snakes on that motherfucking plane.

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**Author:** ![tim314](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tim314/32/3468_2.png) [@tim314](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tim314)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2013, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-agents-of-shield/669608/191 "2013-10-02T01:28:30Z")

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I really want to like this show, but at this point I’m a bit underwhelmed. Is it too much to ask for an actual comic-book superhero to show up? The first episode had one very generic super-guy, this one had nothing more than a fancy plane and a ray gun. They keep dropping references to the same few Marvel movies, but haven’t brought in one additional element from the comics.

The whole rag-tag team of secret agents thing has been done before, and slapping “Marvel” on it doesn’t really do much to improve upon it.

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**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2013, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-agents-of-shield/669608/192 "2013-10-02T01:40:50Z")

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> [@tim314](#):
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> I really want to like this show, but at this point I’m a bit underwhelmed. Is it too much to ask for an actual comic-book superhero to show up? The first episode had one very generic super-guy, this one had nothing more than a fancy plane and a ray gun. They keep dropping references to the same few Marvel movies, but haven’t brought in one additional element from the comics.

Nick Fury his damn self doesn’t count? I don’t expect to see any of the main characters from the current run of movies any time soon, if ever, and certainly not in a featured role. We know there won’t be any of the X-Men or Fantastic Four due to licensing issues. Likely the same deal with Spiderman. Might see someone else eventually…like maybe She-Hulk, or Iron Fist, but we’re only two episodes in to what I hope is a long running show.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2013, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-agents-of-shield/669608/193 "2013-10-02T01:44:07Z")

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And super-heroes AREN’T THE FREAKING POINT OF THE SHOW!

You want superheroes, go read the books or watch the movies. The TV show is about something else. Get used to that fact.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Miskatonic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.miskatonic/32/310_2.png) [@Mr.Miskatonic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Miskatonic)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2013, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-agents-of-shield/669608/194 "2013-10-02T01:48:00Z")

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> [@Oakminster](#):
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> Ain’t no motherfucking snakes on that motherfucking plane.

Well, no fish anyway.

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**Author:** ![Misnomer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/misnomer/32/14897_2.png) [@Misnomer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Misnomer)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2013, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-agents-of-shield/669608/195 "2013-10-02T01:48:05Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Rumor has it that there is going to be a post-credits cameo in the second episode.

> [@Misnomer](#):
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> Yeah, Clark Gregg has been telling Twitter to be sure to watch through the credits of the second ep.

I didn’t see anything during/after the credits (though of course I saw SJ!). Maybe I misunderstood, and Clark Gregg’s tweets were just about watching _until_ the credits…?

Tonight I figured out what bugs me about Skye: she looks too young. I mean, I know she _is_ young, but she looks like a teenager to me. Even younger than Fitz and Simmons. Hard for me to buy her as a serious member of the team, or anyone’s potential love interest. So far I like her character well enough, and the actress is gorgeous, I just wish she looked a tiny bit older.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2013, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-agents-of-shield/669608/196 "2013-10-02T01:49:23Z")

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Was Coulson’s throw-away line the first clear indication that he knows he died?

The evil lady said, “Oh, Agent Coulson, you don’t even know it. You’re having a mid-life crisis.”

And he replied, “More like an afterlife crisis.”

Was this the first time he indicated he knows he died?

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**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2013, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-agents-of-shield/669608/197 "2013-10-02T02:03:52Z")

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Withdrawn.

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**Author:** ![Dangerosa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Dangerosa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dangerosa)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2013, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-agents-of-shield/669608/198 "2013-10-02T02:08:26Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> And super-heroes AREN’T THE FREAKING POINT OF THE SHOW!
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> You want superheroes, go read the books or watch the movies. The TV show is about something else. Get used to that fact.

And they’ve been quite clear about that from day one.

And my guess is that its a pragmatic decision - it has more to do with time and production costs - to do Avengers quality special effects is expensive and takes a lot of post production time. Or you end up with Heroes. TV shows usually don’t have that sort of time to play with.

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**Author:** ![tim314](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tim314/32/3468_2.png) [@tim314](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tim314)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2013, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-agents-of-shield/669608/199 "2013-10-02T02:14:47Z")

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> [@Oakminster](#):
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> Nick Fury his damn self doesn’t count? I don’t expect to see any of the main characters from the current run of movies any time soon, if ever, and certainly not in a featured role.

I don’t really consider Nick Fury a superhero, although I guess that’s debateable. But at any rate, what I meant was I’m hoping to see characters who _haven’t_ appeared in the movies. Even with the licensing issues you mention, I’m sure there are plenty of characters who are available from the decades of Marvel comics.

> [@silenus](#):
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> And super-heroes AREN’T THE FREAKING POINT OF THE SHOW!
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> You want superheroes, go read the books or watch the movies. The TV show is about something else. Get used to that fact.

I _thought_ the point was something like “normal people in a world of superheroes”. In the latest episode, they fought Peruvian commandos over a left-over prop from the Captain America movie. Dub over the line where the one guy says (paraphrasing) “It’s like one of those things Captain America had to deal with in the '40s”, and this could just as easily have been an episode of Alias.

I know it’s still early, and I’ll be watching next week, but I’m watching mainly because I’m a fan of Marvel Comics. If this is just a show about, as I said, “a rag-tag team of secret agents”, with a few allusions to the Marvel movies and an occasional cameo by Samuel L. Jackson or Cobie Smulders, then it doesn’t really have much to interest me.

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**Author:** ![tim314](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tim314/32/3468_2.png) [@tim314](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tim314)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2013, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-agents-of-shield/669608/200 "2013-10-02T02:18:52Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> Was Coulson’s throw-away line the first clear indication that he knows he died?
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> The evil lady said, “Oh, Agent Coulson, you don’t even know it. You’re having a mid-life crisis.”
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> And he replied, “More like an afterlife crisis.”
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> Was this the first time he indicated he knows he died?

It could be, but maybe he’s just referencing the fact that he _almost_ died. They said he was effectively dead for 8 seconds, right?

That whole “he must never know” bit suggests he doesn’t understand what happened. Although he really seems like he’s hinting at something with the repetition of “Tahiti is a magical place”.

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