# Marvel Agents of SHIELD

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-agents-of-shield/669608
**Category:** Cafe Society
**Created:** [September 25, 2013, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-agents-of-shield/669608 "2013-09-25T00:55:46Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)
#### Post date: [September 25, 2013, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-agents-of-shield/669608/21 "2013-09-25T02:59:03Z")

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I liked it. The cast is a little crowded and I think I might be starting to tire of the Whedon pitter-pat dialog but this was good.

A few random points:

Hacker-Girl was insanely hot.

I was hoping Gunn would become a regular.

I wonder if Robin from HIMYM will become a regular next season when that show ends.

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### Author: ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)
#### Post date: [September 25, 2013, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-agents-of-shield/669608/22 "2013-09-25T03:00:26Z")

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I enjoyed it. And I think Coulson is Vision.

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### Author: ![epbrown01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ba0ec/32.png) [@epbrown01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/epbrown01)
#### Post date: [September 25, 2013, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-agents-of-shield/669608/23 "2013-09-25T03:07:05Z")

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> [@Quimby](#):
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> I was hoping Gunn would become a regular.

It’s a Joss Whedon show.

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### Author: ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)
#### Post date: [September 25, 2013, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-agents-of-shield/669608/24 "2013-09-25T03:16:06Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> Didn’t know there was a Jed Whedon in the family.

Jed, of course, is Joss’ brother. The show’s third creator is Maurissa Tancharoen, who is Jed’s wife. The three of them co-wrote _Dr. Horrible’s Sing-Along Blog_.

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### Author: ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)
#### Post date: [September 25, 2013, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-agents-of-shield/669608/25 "2013-09-25T03:17:48Z")

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I liked it a lot. Looking forward to the season.,

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### Author: ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)
#### Post date: [September 25, 2013, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-agents-of-shield/669608/26 "2013-09-25T03:19:48Z")

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I really enjoyed it. I thought Phil’s entrance was great - he really ties the show together. And I really liked the line “With great power comes… a bunch of really weird stuff you’re not prepared to deal with!”

It was a pretty good pilot. Introduce the characters, spread some mystery about them, have a quick problem and resolution. I assume next week will go deeper into their adversaries. Probably introduce the season-long arc that you know is coming.

Only think I didn’t really like was Fitz & Simmons. Hopefully they’ll tune or remove those characters soon.

> [@JohnT](#):
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> _Hated_ the flying car. Cheesy, cheesy, cheesy.

I bet we’ll eventually find out Howard Stark built it for SHIELD, since he’s one of the founders, and was showing a not-quite functional flying car in Captain America.

> [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#):
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> You do wonder why anybody would live in New York in a superhero universe, though. Why not just paint a target on your forehead and hand out guns?

The episode took place in L.A, and next one is supposedly in South America. I think they’ll be spreading the locales around a bit. Why else have a cool flying command center, complete with a garage, lab, and interrogation room?

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### Author: ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)
#### Post date: [September 25, 2013, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-agents-of-shield/669608/27 "2013-09-25T03:28:35Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> My edumacated guess is that the one that died was an LMD.

My guess was clone. Robot/cyborg also works.

> [@Quimby](#):
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> \<snip\>  
> I wonder if Robin from HIMYM will become a regular next season when that show ends.

That was my thought, too. She’s going to need a new series soon. 🙂

Halfway in, I like it a lot. There was a lot of Joss in it, in a good way.

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### Author: ![Miss\_Woodhouse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/838e76/32.png) [@Miss\_Woodhouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miss_Woodhouse)
#### Post date: [September 25, 2013, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-agents-of-shield/669608/28 "2013-09-25T03:29:37Z")

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My pre-teen son thought the flying car was awesome. that’s pretty much the level of the gag. “You have ten minutes to decide.” Oh, whoops! Car flies! I was shocked and awed at that surprise I didn’t see coming. not.

I liked it a lot. It was fun, light and good family entertainment. My son was so looking forward to it that he circled the date on the calendar. I’m pretty sure it will be a family show for us and we haven’t had that in a long time.

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### Author: ![Grumman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/43a26b/32.png) [@Grumman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grumman)
#### Post date: [September 25, 2013, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-agents-of-shield/669608/29 "2013-09-25T03:50:48Z")

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> [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](#):
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> Ming-Na Wen was born in 1963, she’s not 28.

She is in comic book time. 😉

I’ll have a look around and see if there’s anywhere online I can watch it. Fingers crossed.

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### Author: ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)
#### Post date: [September 25, 2013, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-agents-of-shield/669608/30 "2013-09-25T04:04:49Z")

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One thing I noticed is that I think the preview for next week talked about a five man team. In the pilot they seemed to be established six core team members: Coulson, Ward, May, Skye, Fitz, and Simmons.

It’s too early for Whedon to kill anyone yet - he’d want to string us along a little while first. So I’m thinking one of the characters may be revealed as a traitor and turn into an ongoing opponent. If so, I’m guessing Simmons - the two scientist characters are redundant so one of them could be spared. And I figure Simmons would be the traitor because Whedon would rather have a female antagonist.

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### Author: ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)
#### Post date: [September 25, 2013, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-agents-of-shield/669608/31 "2013-09-25T04:12:36Z")

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Kinda loved it. But that was a given seeing as to who made it, who’s in it and the source material.

5 man team - Coulson is their control, not a member of the team.

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### Author: ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)
#### Post date: [September 25, 2013, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-agents-of-shield/669608/32 "2013-09-25T05:17:30Z")

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I thought it was good fun… struck a mix between being Whedon-y (which I love) and being comic book-y (which I enjoy).  
I’m bad with faces, and I can’t tell the various young attractive women apart yet, but I’m sure I’ll get there.  
Was the red-glow-boom-disease the same one from Iron Man 3?

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### Author: ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)
#### Post date: [September 25, 2013, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-agents-of-shield/669608/33 "2013-09-25T05:28:14Z")

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> [@MaxTheVool](#):
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> I’m bad with faces, and I can’t tell the various young attractive women apart yet, but I’m sure I’ll get there.

There’s Melinda May ([Ming-Na Wen](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ming-Na_4.jpg)) - She’s the former field agent who now wants to avoid field work.  
There’s Skye ([Chloe Bennet](http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/blog_post_349_width/2012/12/chole_bennet_a_p.jpg)) - She’s the hacker that got brought into SHIELD.  
There’s Jemma Simmons ([Elizabeth Henstridge](http://i1.cdnds.net/12/46/300x225/showbiz_elizabeth_henstridge_1.jpg)) - She’s the scientist with the British accent.

> [@MaxTheVool](#):
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> Was the red-glow-boom-disease the same one from Iron Man 3?

Yes, they identified it in the show as Extremis.

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### Author: ![Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/face_intentionally_left_blank/32/288_2.png) [@Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Face_Intentionally_Left_Blank)
#### Post date: [September 25, 2013, 9:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-agents-of-shield/669608/34 "2013-09-25T09:26:57Z")

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> [@Oakminster](#):
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> I enjoyed it. And I think Coulson is Vision.

Jeez, now I remember why I read D.C. as a kid. I just went to Wikipedia and read up on this “Vision” character, and I still have no idea what it is, and as a bonus, I’m more confused about other things now. His body was thought to have been created from the “android original Human Torch”. . . android. . .what? The Human Torch was an android?

I’m hoping Coulson’s Big Secret isn’t anything terribly confusing.

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### Author: ![Grumman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/43a26b/32.png) [@Grumman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grumman)
#### Post date: [September 25, 2013, 9:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-agents-of-shield/669608/35 "2013-09-25T09:39:52Z")

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> [@Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](#):
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> Jeez, now I remember why I read D.C. as a kid. I just went to Wikipedia and read up on this “Vision” character, and I still have no idea what it is, and as a bonus, I’m more confused about other things now. His body was thought to have been created from the “android original Human Torch”. . . android. . .what? The Human Torch was an android?

No. There were two characters called “The Human Torch”: the one you’re thinking of from the Fantastic Four, and one from World War II who killed Hitler.

Think of it like the Alan Scott Green Lantern and the Green Lantern Corps Green Lanterns.

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#### Post date: [September 25, 2013, 9:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-agents-of-shield/669608/36 "2013-09-25T09:45:22Z")

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> [@Grumman](#):
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> No. There were two characters called “The Human Torch”: the one you’re thinking of from the Fantastic Four, and one from World War II who killed Hitler.

Oh, well, of course. 😃

OK, now I’m a little more clued in on the Human Torch character, and how we won WWII. Thanks!

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### Author: ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)
#### Post date: [September 25, 2013, 11:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-agents-of-shield/669608/37 "2013-09-25T11:08:53Z")

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What’s a “LMD”?

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### Author: ![GreedySmurf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a698b9/32.png) [@GreedySmurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreedySmurf)
#### Post date: [September 25, 2013, 11:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-agents-of-shield/669608/38 "2013-09-25T11:17:46Z")

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I enjoyed it. I think there’s a fair bit of improvement left, but it’s a pilot and I have faith that Whedon can tune it up.

One thing - are we supposed to know who Agent May is? As in has the character appeared in any of the existing marvelverse movies?

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### Author: ![GreedySmurf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a698b9/32.png) [@GreedySmurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreedySmurf)
#### Post date: [September 25, 2013, 11:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-agents-of-shield/669608/39 "2013-09-25T11:19:08Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> What’s a “LMD”?

**L** ife **M** odel **D** ecoy

A robot/android designed to seamlessly replicate an individual. A well worn trope in the Marvelverse comics to make it appear someone is dead when they’e actually not.

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### Author: ![Cubsfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Cubsfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cubsfan)
#### Post date: [September 25, 2013, 11:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-agents-of-shield/669608/40 "2013-09-25T11:44:31Z")

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Actually since this seems to be THE Shield thread I’m going to request my op get deleted or edited . I may not have liked it but don’t want a poo poo post to be the opening post on an otherwise constructive thread.

Sorry folks!

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