# Marvel comic characters...who can fly from the Earth to the Moon, unaided? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 18, 2015, 7:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-comic-characters-who-can-fly-from-the-earth-to-the-moon-unaided/717974 "2015-04-18T07:25:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2015, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-comic-characters-who-can-fly-from-the-earth-to-the-moon-unaided/717974/21 "2015-04-18T18:15:04Z")
At that, how about a feeble little guy like the Vanisher? He’s done intercontinental feats of teleportation, and even zapped himself from the Earth to a space station – and, as far as I can tell, he’s got the range to make it to the Moon; he wouldn’t last long out there, he’d need to pop back in short order – but, technically, maybe, yeah? ---
**Author:** ![magnusblitz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b4bc9f/32.png) [@magnusblitz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magnusblitz)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2015, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-comic-characters-who-can-fly-from-the-earth-to-the-moon-unaided/717974/22 "2015-04-18T18:19:23Z")
Not sure about Nightcrawler, but Magik just recently teleported the X-Men to the moon. I think Firestar could probably do it too - she’s flown around in space, I believe. ---
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2015, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-comic-characters-who-can-fly-from-the-earth-to-the-moon-unaided/717974/23 "2015-04-18T18:54:25Z")
> [@Mince](#): > > But isn’t the moon’s gravity much less than the Earth’s And this makes it less insane? There’s no atmosphere on the Moon. There’s no atmosphere in space. Escape velocity is over 5000 miles per hour. Hitting the Earth will create temperatures of thousands of degrees. Not to mention, you can’t aim at another planet. Does he have retrorockets in his pants? You’re trying to justify jumping from the Moon to the Earth by the lesser gravity? Why do you think they call them comic books? ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2015, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-comic-characters-who-can-fly-from-the-earth-to-the-moon-unaided/717974/24 "2015-04-18T19:05:43Z")
> [@](#): > > Quoth **cmyk** : > > Right. He could bring extra O2 and work in CO2 scrubbers. Also, a liquid diet could be worked out, but how would Stark jettison his poop? > > Perhaps he could implement a poop airlock. Oh, sure, he could definitely put together something that would work, and he’s no stranger to liquid diets, but the OP specified using only what’s normally at their disposal or on their person. **Exapno Mapcase** , I’m not sure what your objection is. Jumping from the Moon to the Earth is, in fact, considerably easier than the reverse. It’s not possible for a mere human with human limitations on strength, but we’re not talking about a mere human, we’re talking about a superhero whose limits are much greater. If you’re going to posit the existence of metahumans in the first place, it’s perfectly sensible to posit a metahuman who is capable of jumping from the Moon to the Earth, but not from the Earth to the Moon. > [@](#): > > Not to mention, you can’t aim at another planet. This will doubtless come as a great surprise to the folks at NASA. ---
**Author:** ![DinoR](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dinor/32/2821_2.png) [@DinoR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DinoR)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2015, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-comic-characters-who-can-fly-from-the-earth-to-the-moon-unaided/717974/25 "2015-04-18T19:39:29Z")
Vision can fly when he’s at reduced density and is an android so atmosphere likely isn’t an issue. He also draws power from solar rays. I don’t recall him ever being in space though in my limited experience. ---
**Author:** ![Trancephalic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/trancephalic/32/380_2.png) [@Trancephalic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trancephalic)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2015, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-comic-characters-who-can-fly-from-the-earth-to-the-moon-unaided/717974/26 "2015-04-18T19:51:07Z")
Can anything Tony not do without his suit count as “unaided”? ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2015, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-comic-characters-who-can-fly-from-the-earth-to-the-moon-unaided/717974/27 "2015-04-18T20:00:24Z")
He’d classify it as a prosthetic. ---
**Author:** ![TheInimitableMaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b19c9b/32.png) [@TheInimitableMaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheInimitableMaven)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2015, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-comic-characters-who-can-fly-from-the-earth-to-the-moon-unaided/717974/28 "2015-04-18T20:16:11Z")
> [@Mince](#): > > Mister fantastic could presumably reach to the moon and pull himself there. But he starts feeling pain after stretching 1500 ft (presumably he can [stretch farther](http://marvelcomics.answers.wikia.com/wiki/How_far_can_mr._fantastic_stretch)). Not sure he could survive in space. While Reed can stretch in space (as demonstrated as early as _Fantastic Four #6, Volume One_ alias the first ever Dr. Doom and Sub-Mariner team-up issue), he most certainly cannot stretch all the way from the Earth to the moon. In all of my FF reading through the years (and it’s been A LOT), I can never recall an instance where Reed even stretched beyond the ionosphere from Earth. And if Reed had the ability to elongate himself that far, he would still need equipment to survive the lack of oxygen (in the said FF #6, he wore a space helmet during his attempt to reach Doom’s rocket from the Baxter Building, which was being pulled by the rocket towards the sun). Speaking of all that’s FF…even though he is not the most popular character, Impossible Man is a perfect candidate for this thread with his ability to rapid-fire evolve into any and everything to transport himself and survive any and everywhere. As a matter of fact, Impy (as he’s lovingly called by the FF and his few fans) got to Earth from his native Poppup by simply morphing himself into a living rocket. Some other great candidates are the Skrulls, who probably could immediately transmogrify into any sort of being that can fly from Earth into space and to the moon, complete with organs adapted for breathing in space (if the Skrulls aren’t already able to do that without the need for transformation). ---
**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2015, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-comic-characters-who-can-fly-from-the-earth-to-the-moon-unaided/717974/29 "2015-04-18T20:21:45Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > Oh, sure, he could definitely put together something that would work, and he’s no stranger to liquid diets, but the OP specified using only what’s normally at their disposal or on their person. > > **Exapno Mapcase** , I’m not sure what your objection is. Jumping from the Moon to the Earth is, in fact, considerably easier than the reverse. It’s not possible for a mere human with human limitations on strength, but we’re not talking about a mere human, we’re talking about a superhero whose limits are much greater. If you’re going to posit the existence of metahumans in the first place, it’s perfectly sensible to posit a metahuman who is capable of jumping from the Moon to the Earth, but not from the Earth to the Moon. > This will doubtless come as a great surprise to the folks at NASA. Yeh, but dood… “Poop Airlock.” Need I say more? ---
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2015, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-comic-characters-who-can-fly-from-the-earth-to-the-moon-unaided/717974/30 "2015-04-18T21:46:49Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > This will doubtless come as a great surprise to the folks at NASA. Seriously? They send their rockets straight up and then they ballistically arrive at their destination? ---
**Author:** ![irritant](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/dfb087/32.png) [@irritant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/irritant)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2015, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-comic-characters-who-can-fly-from-the-earth-to-the-moon-unaided/717974/31 "2015-04-18T22:31:08Z")
An obvious one no one has mentioned: Uatu, the Watcher (or any member of his species) lives on the moon and makes the trip back and forth quite regularly, seemingly unaided. There’s an X-character named Lila Cheney who is a teleporter… but she can only teleport across intergalactic distances, with a minimum of several light years. I suppose she could teleport from Earth to the Andromeda galaxy and then teleport back to the moon, but I don’t think she could do it without some kind of a guide. Warlock (the robot guy, not Adam) originally flew to Earth under his own power, so I suppose he could fly back. > [@Ranchoth](#): > > The only one off the top of my head that I’m certain of would be Silver Surfer—assuming you don’t count his board as a “spacecraft.” (I’m…_barely_ willing to give it a pass. Maybe it’s the small size and lack of any seats.) Toomie is a manifestation of the Surfer’s control of the Power Cosmic and is essentially a part of his own body. It’s been destroyed in the past, and he’s simply recreated it out of thin air. So it definitely wouldn’t qualify as an “aid.” He could presumably fly without it if he wanted, he just doesn’t, for reasons known only to Jack Kirby. > [@DinoR](#): > > Vision can fly when he’s at reduced density and is an android so atmosphere likely isn’t an issue. He also draws power from solar rays. I don’t recall him ever being in space though in my limited experience. During the Kree/Skrull War he’s shown dogfighting Skrulls in space unaided, so I suppose he could fly to the moon very slowly. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2015, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-comic-characters-who-can-fly-from-the-earth-to-the-moon-unaided/717974/32 "2015-04-18T22:38:37Z")
To give an idea of the difference between taking off from Earth to taking off from the Moon, compare the two ships the Apollo teams used. [Saturn V](http://mailman.thegeek.nu/~dahanson/rockets/misc/saturn_v_06.jpg) [Lunar Ascent Module](http://airandspace.si.edu/webimages/highres/3836h.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2015, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-comic-characters-who-can-fly-from-the-earth-to-the-moon-unaided/717974/33 "2015-04-18T22:50:27Z")
> [@irritant](#): > > An obvious one no one has mentioned: Professor X. _“Get your ass over here and fly me to the moon.”_ ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2015, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-comic-characters-who-can-fly-from-the-earth-to-the-moon-unaided/717974/34 "2015-04-18T23:13:41Z")
Or even better, “You believe that I am on the Moon.” > [@](#): > > Quoth **Exapno** : > > Seriously? They send their rockets straight up and then they ballistically arrive at their destination? No, of course not. They aim their rockets in the correct direction, which usually isn’t straight up, and then they ballistically arrive at their destination. ---
**Author:** ![Mince](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecd19e/32.png) [@Mince](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mince)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2015, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-comic-characters-who-can-fly-from-the-earth-to-the-moon-unaided/717974/35 "2015-04-19T00:05:38Z")
> [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#): > > And this makes it less insane? > > There’s no atmosphere on the Moon. There’s no atmosphere in space. Escape velocity is over 5000 miles per hour. Hitting the Earth will create temperatures of thousands of degrees. > > Not to mention, you can’t aim at another planet. Does he have retrorockets in his pants? > > You’re trying to justify jumping from the Moon to the Earth by the lesser gravity? Why do you think they call them comic books? Well, come on. I know we’re talking fiction here, but even comic books generally follow physical principles. Super Heroes have traits that allow them to overcome a lot of physical restraints that humans have, but jumping from the moon to Earth is still easier than the reverse. Therefore, I’m not that impressed by your Red Hulk. ---
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Any of the ‘cosmic-based’ characters can do it easily. Without straying into the actual cosmic entities, or the uber-powerful semi-cosmic like Galactus, the Celestials or Elders of the Universe. Just off the top of my head. - Silver Surfer -as you mentioned plus any of the other heralds of Galactus - Quasar (not sure on his status at the moment, I think the power bands are held by a woman at the moment) - Nova - Various Captain Marvels as mentioned already - Thor - Beta Ray Bill - Gladiator - Sentry - Jack of Hearts - Hyperion ---
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2015, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-comic-characters-who-can-fly-from-the-earth-to-the-moon-unaided/717974/37 "2015-04-20T14:53:45Z")
> [@Mince](#): > > Well, come on. I know we’re talking fiction here, but even comic books generally follow physical principles. Super Heroes have traits that allow them to overcome a lot of physical restraints that humans have, but jumping from the moon to Earth is still easier than the reverse. Therefore, I’m not that impressed by your Red Hulk. Ain’t my Red Hulk. But just to be sure we’re getting our physical principles straight. The Red Hulk can easily jump up at over 5000 mph but you consider it difficult to jump up at over 25,000 mph. When in between do you draw that line? ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2015, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-comic-characters-who-can-fly-from-the-earth-to-the-moon-unaided/717974/38 "2015-04-20T15:03:23Z")
Even if the Hulk could jump to the Moon (which boggles the mind - wouldn’t he nudge the Earth out of its orbit as he pushed off?), how long could he hold his breath once he got there? Wouldn’t explosive decompression get him? ---
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Molecule Man could do it; construct a vessel around himself and go, but he’d probably just teleport there to save the hassle. ---
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> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > I believe Rogue currently has the flightspeed and durability to manage it. If I’m not mistaken, this is because she absorbed Wonder Man, who indeed could have made the trip. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-comic-characters-who-can-fly-from-the-earth-to-the-moon-unaided/717974.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-comic-characters-who-can-fly-from-the-earth-to-the-moon-unaided/717974.md?page=3)