# Marvel comics Mutants...who'd be justified in getting "cured"? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [July 25, 2013, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-comics-mutants-whod-be-justified-in-getting-cured/664449 "2013-07-25T01:44:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Ranchoth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranchoth/32/1066_2.png) [@Ranchoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranchoth)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2013, 10:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-comics-mutants-whod-be-justified-in-getting-cured/664449/21 "2013-07-26T10:55:13Z")
> [@Spice\_Weasel](#): > > So far I’ve only read up to late 90s (plus current X-factor, Wolverine and the X-Men) so I might be missing something, but Rogue has used her ability absorbing powers during combat. Once she absorbed all of the X-men at once to fight off a villain and they got really pissed off at her. I meant that _some versions_ of Rogue had useless (in combat) powers—for instance, the Rogue we see in the X-Men movies, who’s powers didn’t seem fast acting or long lasting enough to be practical. The Rogue from _X-Men: Evolution_, on the other hand, could be frighteningly formidable. In any case, though, I’d agree that she’d be more than justified in wanting said powers removed, or at least getting an “off switch” option. ---
**Author:** ![Student\_Driver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3da27b/32.png) [@Student\_Driver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Student_Driver)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2013, 11:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-comics-mutants-whod-be-justified-in-getting-cured/664449/22 "2013-07-26T11:00:39Z")
If Cloak (of Cloak and Dagger) is still considered a mutant, he’d benefit. His “hunger” seems to be more a burden than anything else. Writers seem to go back and forth on whether he is a mutant or not, though. ---
**Author:** ![Jragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19b73/32.png) [@Jragon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jragon)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2013, 11:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-comics-mutants-whod-be-justified-in-getting-cured/664449/23 "2013-07-26T11:36:35Z")
I’m not really huge into comics, so I may be missing key facts of the stories that make me not know what I’m talking about here, but while Jean Grey’s powers are awesome, I’d completely understand if she wanted to get rid of them given how much it must suck to go Phoenix and ruin everybody’s lives… again. ---
**Author:** ![Dave\_Hartwick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7feea3/32.png) [@Dave\_Hartwick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dave_Hartwick)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2013, 12:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-comics-mutants-whod-be-justified-in-getting-cured/664449/24 "2013-07-26T12:06:39Z")
> [@Lightray](#): > > Glob Herman. Thanks. > [@](#): > > And I think Unus the Untouchable’s power actually killed him. Although he might’ve gotten better… He did. It killed him again. ---
**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2013, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-comics-mutants-whod-be-justified-in-getting-cured/664449/25 "2013-07-26T23:00:01Z")
Any mutant that wants to be cured would be justified. Their body, their choice. ---
**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2013, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-comics-mutants-whod-be-justified-in-getting-cured/664449/26 "2013-07-26T23:35:21Z")
> [@epbrown01](#): > > What’s wrong with the Blob? Morbid obesity. He was depowered at least once, and was healthier for it. (I did like the sequence where he stopped being a villain and was a rodeo clown…) ---
**Author:** ![Balance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ccd318/32.png) [@Balance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Balance)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2013, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-comics-mutants-whod-be-justified-in-getting-cured/664449/27 "2013-07-27T00:01:28Z")
I’m pretty much with **TBG** on this. Why should any given mutant have to justify their choice to us? I could see having to make a case for priority if there’s a waiting list, but not to get it done at all. If it’s irreversible, maybe offer counseling to make sure it’s what they really want, and not something they’re being pressured into, but that’s about it. > [@Ranchoth](#): > > The Rogue from _X-Men: Evolution_, on the other hand, could be frighteningly formidable. I’ve always loved that scene. It sums up Rogue’s [Blessed With Suck](http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BlessedWithSuck) situation so well–she had enormous power, and it was on the verge of destroying her. ---
**Author:** ![Ranchoth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranchoth/32/1066_2.png) [@Ranchoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranchoth)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2013, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-comics-mutants-whod-be-justified-in-getting-cured/664449/28 "2013-07-27T00:50:16Z")
> [@Balance](#): > > I’m pretty much with **TBG** on this. Why should any given mutant have to justify their choice to us? I could see having to make a case for priority if there’s a waiting list, but not to get it done at all. If it’s irreversible, maybe offer counseling to make sure it’s what they really want, and not something they’re being pressured into, but that’s about it. Heh! Y’know, exactly the kind of argument I’d make—and I wouldn’t object to someone wanting to _become_ a Mutant/mutate, either. Though it might be best to include at least a background check and a “cooling off period” for that one.—I was just trying to think of the cases where you could rebut any “cultural genocide” argument with a “medical necessity” one. Another candidate: [Tildie Soames](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tildie_Soames), an actual cure test subject, a little girl who had the power to make her nightmares become real monsters. Which killed several innocent people, including her parents, while she slept. :eek: ---
**Author:** ![GoodOmens](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/d26b3c/32.png) [@GoodOmens](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GoodOmens)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2013, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-comics-mutants-whod-be-justified-in-getting-cured/664449/29 "2013-07-27T00:54:45Z")
> [@epbrown01](#): > > What’s wrong with the Blob? He can’t fully appreciate the emotional subtleties in fine artwork because nothing moves him. ---
**Author:** ![epbrown01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ba0ec/32.png) [@epbrown01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/epbrown01)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2013, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-comics-mutants-whod-be-justified-in-getting-cured/664449/30 "2013-07-27T05:20:10Z")
> [@Trinopus](#): > > Morbid obesity. He was depowered at least once, and was healthier for it. > > (I did like the sequence where he stopped being a villain and was a rodeo clown…) Ah, wasn’t aware they tied his size to his power in the comics; in the Wolverine film he had his abilities long before he was overweight. ---
**Author:** ![Boogly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Boogly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boogly)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2013, 6:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-comics-mutants-whod-be-justified-in-getting-cured/664449/31 "2013-07-27T06:01:24Z")
What about Storm? Throw a box on her head, she gets scared of the tight space and commences laying waste? ---
**Author:** ![MegaBee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f0a364/32.png) [@MegaBee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MegaBee)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2013, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-comics-mutants-whod-be-justified-in-getting-cured/664449/32 "2013-07-29T12:50:02Z")
> [@Boogly](#): > > What about Storm? Throw a box on her head, she gets scared of the tight space and commences laying waste? Probably better to treat her claustrophobia. ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2013, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-comics-mutants-whod-be-justified-in-getting-cured/664449/33 "2013-07-29T15:04:08Z")
> [@Ranchoth](#): > > I meant that _some versions_ of Rogue had useless (in combat) powers—for instance, the Rogue we see in the X-Men movies, who’s powers didn’t seem fast acting or long lasting enough to be practical. Oh, yeah, Rogue in the movies was total weak sauce. Didn’t she elect to become human in the third movie? She was so mopey I really couldn’t blame her. ---
**Author:** ![Cuckoorex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ad7895/32.png) [@Cuckoorex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cuckoorex)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2013, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-comics-mutants-whod-be-justified-in-getting-cured/664449/34 "2013-07-29T15:42:10Z")
> [@Spice\_Weasel](#): > > Rogue > So far I’ve only read up to late 90s (plus current X-factor, Wolverine and the X-Men) so I might be missing something, but Rogue has used her ability absorbing powers during combat. Once she absorbed all of the X-men at once to fight off a villain and they got really pissed off at her. If I remember correctly, that was in the special issue of Heroes for Hope, wasn’t it? The one-shot that benefitted some sort of hunger relief thing? I would say Nightcrawler, except I don’t know that his appearance would really change; he’d just be unable to teleport. His agility and ability to climb walls and such are products of his physical makeup, and it would seem he was born with that appearance, as opposed to Beast who started off looking relatively normal and then mutated into a Furry. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-comics-mutants-whod-be-justified-in-getting-cured/664449.md?page=1)