# Marvel/DC fanfic
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-dc-fanfic/321108
**Category:** Cafe Society
**Created:** [September 11, 2005, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-dc-fanfic/321108 "2005-09-11T16:06:26Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
**Page:** 8
### Author:  [@Askia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askia)
#### Post date: [September 22, 2005, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-dc-fanfic/321108/141 "2005-09-22T15:53:22Z")
I am irresistably called to a challenge, is why. đ
[spoiler]Itâs not about your section â itâs more at yet another story idea that began occuring to me after reading yours and **Harborwolfâs** comments. I may do a follow-up to my Fantastic Four chapter and have Superman explore why adamantium and vibranium hurt him so much and why Reed Richardâs bigotry towards magic can cause him to dismiss some other possibilities.
Also, it occurred to me alchemy is almost never expanded upon as a magical discipline outside of the Harry Potter universe. Not even Crowley, information on voodoo, DCâs BOOKS OF MAGIC or PROMETHEA deals with it much â and itâs aching for exploration. The only self-proclaimed comic book alchemist I can think of is the Fantastic Fourâs enemy, Diablo, although the Absorbing Man is for all intents and purposes one and itâs not a much of a stretch to consider Dr. Will Magnus an atomic one.[/spoiler]
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### Author:  [@Scott\_Plaid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scott_Plaid)
#### Post date: [September 22, 2005, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-dc-fanfic/321108/142 "2005-09-22T15:58:02Z")
> [@Askia](#):
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> \*\*\* Superman memorably had a story in which his dead Kryptonian skin cells, which he sheds like any other human by the millions, somehow became sentient and tried to run amok â or something. This is early in the John Byrne run and I traded a bunch of those comics for copies of _Boris the Bear._
I seem to remember his falling into a vat of Chemo, which then took on the form of a giant green SuperGolem. It was, as I recall, defeated by the Metal Men, via their surrounding it and blocking out all sunlight. Tin was shattered in the attempt, and Doc Magnus refused to rebuild him. Doc Magnus is a dick.
Oh, and Boris is teh awsome111!!! Hail the Cosmic Can-opener! đ
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### Author:  [@CandidGamera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CandidGamera)
#### Post date: [September 22, 2005, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-dc-fanfic/321108/143 "2005-09-22T16:03:27Z")
> [@Askia](#):
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> I am irresistably called to a challenge, is why. đ
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> [spoiler]Itâs not about your section â itâs more at yet another story idea that began occuring to me after reading yours and **Harborwolfâs** comments. I may do a follow-up to my Fantastic Four chapter and have Superman explore why adamantium and vibranium hurt him so much and why Reed Richardâs bigotry towards magic can cause him to dismiss some other possibilities.
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> Also, it occurred to me alchemy is almost never expanded upon as a magical discipline outside of the Harry Potter universe. Not even Crowley, information on voodoo, DCâs BOOKS OF MAGIC or PROMETHEA deals with it much â and itâs aching for exploration. The only self-proclaimed comic book alchemist I can think of is the Fantastic Fourâs enemy, Diablo, although the Absorbing Man is for all intents and purposes one and itâs not a much of a stretch to consider Dr. Will Magnus an atomic one.[/spoiler]
Uhh⌠what aboutâŚ
Firestorm? Dr. Alchemy? The Molecule Man? **Dr. Alchemy?**
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### Author:  [@Askia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askia)
#### Post date: [September 22, 2005, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-dc-fanfic/321108/144 "2005-09-22T16:12:45Z")
:smack:
I seriously forgot about him. I forget about the extant Rogues beyond Professor Zoom, Grodd, the Weather Wizard and Captain Cold, sometimes.
The other two you mentioned can transmute metals but have never once, to my knowledge, had their abilities explained in the manner of the âsolutionâ I proposed.
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### Author:  [@CandidGamera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CandidGamera)
#### Post date: [September 22, 2005, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-dc-fanfic/321108/145 "2005-09-22T17:12:46Z")
> [@Askia](#):
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> :smack:
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> I seriously forgot about him. I forget about the extant Rogues beyond Professor Zoom, Grodd, the Weather Wizard and Captain Cold, sometimes.
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> The other two you mentioned can transmute metals but have never once, to my knowledge, had their abilities explained in the manner of the âsolutionâ I proposed.
Sure, but, did Absorbing Manâs get explained that way? I honestly donât recall having seen it. And I know that Doc Magnus is not an alchemist by any conventional interpretation.
And then of course thereâs Chemical Boy and Element Lad
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### Author:  [@Askia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askia)
#### Post date: [September 22, 2005, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-dc-fanfic/321108/146 "2005-09-22T17:42:28Z")
Well, just as Swamp Thing was eventually retconned into a plant elemental, Iâm kinda toying with the idea of retconning the Absorbing Man into an alchemical elemental, somewhat similar to Metamorpho and the Element Girl as metamorphae â since it was the Enchantress, a Norse goddess-sorceress, who gave him his abilities. Just as the Metal Menâs responsometers have been retconned into devices that simply mimic the properties of the metals they are composed of rather than actually being those metals, Iâm toying with the admittedly unconventional idea of making Dr. Will Magnus a modern-day atomic alchemist, although my idea is not entirely without precedent. I just flipped through my DC BLU RIBBON 100-PAGE DIGEST No. 34 featuring the original Rob Kanigher/Ross Andru METAL MEN issues and in the very first issue, on page three, thereâs one of those descriptive text boxes that says⌠âIn the inventive geniusâ laboratory complex, perfectly run by automation, where one mechanical hand takes the place of a thousand, **ancient alchemy is easily surpassed by the wizardry of Will Magnusâ modern science** ⌠[bolding mine].â when you throw âalchemyâ and âwizardyâ in the same sentence, I think it might be a legitimate interpretation. I did say they (MacClain and Magnus) _re-discovered_ alchemical principles. I didnât say they set out to deliberately re-create them.
No more! I humbly ask you hit me up on an email if you want to talk more on this particular topic. I didnât want to fill this thread with spoiler boxes for a third story idea Iâm not sure Iâll have time to write.
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### Author:  [@Askia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askia)
#### Post date: [September 23, 2005, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-dc-fanfic/321108/147 "2005-09-23T16:46:00Z")
**ADDRESSES FROM THE ASYLUM**
**ITEM:** Iâm a bit concerned with the progress of SWAP! Superman and Spider-Man Fanfic. Iâm woebegone. Stunned. Nay â Iâm _dismayed._ Itâs been a full week, SDMBFC fans, and so far Iâm the only one of the Fanboy Collective whoâs posted complete written stories. Have you Aslyum Inmates been having so much fun writing your adventures with Superman battling Marvel baddies and Spider-Manâs vexing DCU villains youâve forgotten to post them? For shame, hogging all that story goodness to yourself! Donât you know there are story-starved children in Africa who hound their clunky dial-up connections waiting, just waiting for a sample of your imagined prose? Share the wealth! Youâre soaking in it!
Dopers who have posted to the boards and emailed me privately are excited about the ideas pitched! A lot of us are looking forward to reading the story ideas of âScintillatingâ **Stuffy** , âCannyâ **CandidGamera** , âCalculatingâ **Kythereia** and âToo-Coolâ **Tengu**. Where the heck are they, Inmates?
**[FANFIC COORDINATOR super-cape on]** If any of you are stuck on story ideas, feel free to email me with any concerns, questions, changes or deadline extensions. Sometimes these things are best done off-the-boards, yâknow? My email is [askiah@yahoo.com](mailto:askiah@yahoo.com). **[/cape off]** â Avuncular Askia.
**ITEM:** If any posters reading this so far has spotted any factual inconsistency in the PROLOGUES so far, feel free to explain why this mistake isnât really a mistake and prepare to earn a heaping helping of our nifty new 'networthy KNOW-PRIZE! A nicknack normally needed by neo-classical noblemen of necessary knowledge, it now be nicked by your nuanced know-how! Hop to it! First come, first nerve! You can start by explaining how Spider-Woman is constantly addressed as Spider-Girl!
**ITEM:** Iâm working hard on my Spider-Man and Superman chapters, \*\*âThe Last Temptation of Spider-Manâ \*\* and **âSuperman versus The Mole Man,â** to finish and post them this weekend. Thereâ s some minor re-writing that needs to be done because I had not planned to post them so soon after the original PROLOGUES.
**ITEM:** Finally, Iâm toying with the idea of a third story, a flashback set entirely in the distant past of the Marvel Universe, concerning the Greek god-metal adamantine and its link to contemporary adamantium, to strengthen the idea that Superman can be injured by it.
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### Author:  [@CandidGamera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CandidGamera)
#### Post date: [September 23, 2005, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-dc-fanfic/321108/148 "2005-09-23T17:41:59Z")
**ITEM** : âFirst come, First nerve?â
I had time to kill at work today and wrote outlines for both of mine. So theyâre coming. Just donât rush me. Iâm an artiste.
A certain ever-lovinâ blue-eyed Thing will also cameo in my Superman story, and the primary Imperial Guardsmen featured will be Gladiator, Smasher, Warstar (Bânee and Câcil) and Starbolt.
The Spidey story is back on, and pretty much features only Booster, Beetle, and Spidey, except for a brief mention of the alter-ego of Irwin Schwab, and a one-line cameo by Guy Gardner.
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### Author:  [@Askia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askia)
#### Post date: [September 23, 2005, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-dc-fanfic/321108/149 "2005-09-23T19:24:20Z")
> [@CandidGamera](#):
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> **ITEM** : âFirst come, First nerve?â
Yeah⌠uh⌠that sounded cool until I re-read it just now.
> [@](#):
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> I had time to kill at work today and wrote outlines for both of mine. So theyâre coming. Just donât rush me. Iâm an artiste.
:: Happy dance ::
> [@](#):
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> A certain ever-lovinâ blue-eyed Thing will also cameo in my Superman story, and the primary Imperial Guardsmen featured will be Gladiator, Smasher, Warstar (Bânee and Câcil) and Starbolt.
Cool.
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> The Spidey story is back on,
HOT DAMN!
> [@](#):
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> and pretty much features only Booster, Beetle, and Spidey, except for a brief mention of the alter-ego of Irwin Schwab, and a one-line cameo by Guy Gardner.
I just through re-reading the last two Super-Buddies mini-series, and I am very happy to hear this!
Now if only I could locate the hole in the Earth that seems to have swallowed up **Tengu, Kythereia** and **Stuffy.**
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### Author:  [@Stuffy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stuffy)
#### Post date: [September 23, 2005, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-dc-fanfic/321108/150 "2005-09-23T20:06:27Z")
Sorry guys. I had a technical manual to write up the dregs of which still occupy my mind and compromises my creative writing style. Fear not, a cure is at hand involving consuption of special liquids and the burning of certain herbs. I exect to finish tommorrow.
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### Author:  [@Askia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askia)
#### Post date: [September 25, 2005, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-dc-fanfic/321108/151 "2005-09-25T22:01:42Z")
Slight change of plans, Inmates. I was toying around with the third story so much I went and damn near wrote the durn thing! This is background information not germaine to the Superman and Spider-Man plot except to explain why Superman is vulnerable to adamantium. Iâll post that here in this thread instead of the SWAP! thread (unless popular demand says otherwise! Iâm a sucker for audience opinion!) and instead of the other two chapters. Probrably tomorrow.
Toodles!
â **Assessing And Adjusting Askia**
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### Author:  [@CandidGamera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CandidGamera)
#### Post date: [September 27, 2005, 12:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-dc-fanfic/321108/152 "2005-09-27T12:53:32Z")
Update.
My Spidey half is almost done. I need to finish it up tonight and proof it.
Turned out more of a Beetle and Booster story than a Spiderman story.
Very dialogue driven - I may need to go and adjust the action sequence in Chapter Three to be a little tighter.
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### Author:  [@Stuffy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stuffy)
#### Post date: [September 27, 2005, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-dc-fanfic/321108/153 "2005-09-27T16:19:16Z")
Still working too, I hope to submit before the weekend.
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### Author:  [@CandidGamera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CandidGamera)
#### Post date: [September 28, 2005, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-dc-fanfic/321108/154 "2005-09-28T13:15:58Z")
Finished Story #1. Going to have to proof it tonight though - didnât have time last night.
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### Author:  [@CandidGamera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CandidGamera)
#### Post date: [September 29, 2005, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-dc-fanfic/321108/155 "2005-09-29T00:12:32Z")
Posted. Enjoy - youâve finally corrupted me into joining the wide world of Fan Fiction.
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### Author:  [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)
#### Post date: [October 14, 2005, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-dc-fanfic/321108/156 "2005-10-14T22:30:23Z")
> [@prologue iv](#):
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> Heâd planned to fly back home and investigate what happened to him â- only home wasnât there anymore. Metropolis didnât exist. Neither did Gotham, Gateway City, **Coast City** , Star City, Fawcett City or Smallville.
Hey, of course Coast City doesnât exist! Dan Jurgens blew it up!
I kid, I kidâŚ
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### Author:  [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)
#### Post date: [October 15, 2005, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-dc-fanfic/321108/157 "2005-10-15T22:34:39Z")
**um, askiaâŚ**
OK, you know that Superman could fly out a window & back into the parking garage with less exertion of force than it would take _to compromise the integrity of the Bugleâs buildingâs structure by drilling through the floor,_ right? Right.
So, do you see Big Blue as a nitwit? Frank Miller fan, maybe? I know, I know, it gives you that great JJJ line, but still. Marvel favoritism abounds here.
Then again, Iâm of the late-'80âs DC-with-a-grown-up-attitude school.
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**as for you, Mr. Explicit TurtleMeat:**
> [@CandidGamera's Blue & Gold story](#):
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> Beetle thought for a moment. âWell, times were simpler then - things are more serious out there these days. But we Super-Buddies donât let it get us down. And those Justice League guys have lighter sides. If you want to get Jâonn to smile, just bring him sandwich cookies. And to get a grin out of the Batman, ask him about knocking out Gardner in one punch.â
I imagine Ted would just say Oreos. But further, I take exception to calling the Giffen Justice League âsimpler times.â The current retro-inspired take is a lot more simplistic, really.
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Funny stuff, though.
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### Author:  [@CandidGamera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CandidGamera)
#### Post date: [October 16, 2005, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-dc-fanfic/321108/158 "2005-10-16T02:24:37Z")
> [@foolsguinea](#):
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> **as for you, Mr. Explicit TurtleMeat:**
> I imagine Ted would just say Oreos. But further, I take exception to calling the Giffen Justice League âsimpler times.â The current retro-inspired take is a lot more simplistic, really.
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> Funny stuff, though.
Well, danke for the feedback. As for the two issues - the âsandwich cookieâ ambiguity is a nod to the fact that A.) they had to stop calling them Oreos at one point and substitute a generic name and B.) I couldnât remember the generic name.
As for the âsimpler timesâ comment - Just sort of the characterâs take on the âdarkeningâ DCU.
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### Author:  [@Scott\_Plaid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scott_Plaid)
#### Post date: [October 16, 2005, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-dc-fanfic/321108/159 "2005-10-16T02:40:57Z")
> [@CandidGamera](#):
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> As for the âsimpler timesâ comment - Just sort of the characterâs take on the âdarkeningâ DCU.
I seem to recall heroes replying to the âsimpler timesâ meme in the Identity Crisis storyline. As I recall, they state that a few decades ago, things werenât simpler, just diffrent.
Oh, and as I recall, the cokies the Martian Manhunter is addicted to is refered to, post-lawsuits fears, as âChocosâ
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### Author:  [@CandidGamera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CandidGamera)
#### Post date: [October 26, 2005, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-dc-fanfic/321108/160 "2005-10-26T18:53:58Z")
Anybody? Bueller?
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