# Marvel Q: The Twelve. 616 continuity? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 14, 2012, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-q-the-twelve-616-continuity/621846 "2012-05-14T04:42:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Horatio\_Hellpop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Horatio\_Hellpop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatio_Hellpop)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-q-the-twelve-616-continuity/621846/1 "2012-05-14T04:42:50Z")
The much-respected (and -delayed) limited series **The Twelve** wrapped up recently. It featured a lot of C-list Timely superheroes from the 40s who, on VE day, got trapped in a room together in suspended animation and woke up in modern-day Berlin, and were moved to New York. My question: Did this story take place in 616 (mainstream Marvel) continuity? They referenced a lot of in-continuity stuff like the superhero civil war, but were never acknowledged in any other titles. Newsarama listed them as some parallel universe, but Newsarama doesn’t have the final word on these things. Any opinions from the Teeming Millions? ---
**Author:** ![Rubixcube](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Rubixcube](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rubixcube)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 12:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-q-the-twelve-616-continuity/621846/2 "2012-05-14T12:17:16Z")
I haven’t read the series but my understanding from my current golden age reading and research is that _The Twelve_ along with the _Marvels Project_ brought a lot of the lesser known golden age characters in-continuity. The [team](http://marvel.wikia.com/Twelve_%28WWII%29_%28Earth-616%29) and various other obscure golden age heroes are all listed as 616 on the Marvel Wiki via _The Twelve_. ---
**Author:** ![Horatio\_Hellpop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Horatio\_Hellpop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatio_Hellpop)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-q-the-twelve-616-continuity/621846/3 "2012-05-14T12:45:20Z")
Oh, okay. I tried looking on [Marvel.com](http://Marvel.com) and could only find the X-Men-related Twelve. Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-q-the-twelve-616-continuity/621846/4 "2012-05-14T13:19:49Z")
Yeah, Marvel’s own site is asstastic for use as a reference. Same with DC, or any other comic company. Unofficial wikis are pretty much the way to go. ---
**Author:** ![Rubixcube](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Rubixcube](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rubixcube)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-q-the-twelve-616-continuity/621846/5 "2012-05-14T13:39:20Z")
Marvel’s site is just asstastic period. If your browsing digital comic issues it takes 4 clicks to navigate to a series page. Then you need to change the all of the viewing settings because the site doesn’t remember them at all. There is no jump to option so if you’re unlucky enough to need a middle issue of something long running it might be 3 or 4 more clicks to get to it, and the site is extremely sluggish even with an excellent internet connection. All of the other searching and browsing options are useless since Marvel puts no effort in to inputting information. Dates are often wrong, sometimes hilariously so (there are some issues that are listed as being published next year) if there are even dates at all. Cross-Overs are available as a browsing option, but only the main books are tagged, making them entirely useless. Character listings are never anything remotely complete, if you view a characters page any team books he’s in won’t be listed, and sometimes even his own book won’t be listed. To make matters worse supporting characters, cameos, and villains are almost never listed. Want the really bad one? The browse by date option is for the date it was added on the site, so if you wish to view by their (hilariously incorrect) dates you need to search the entire date range to pull up every comic on the service and then wade through the hundreds of issues lacking dates.