# Marvel teaming with John Ridley for mysterious superhero project **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 19, 2015, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-teaming-with-john-ridley-for-mysterious-superhero-project/718068 "2015-04-19T21:11:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2015, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-teaming-with-john-ridley-for-mysterious-superhero-project/718068/1 "2015-04-19T21:11:07Z")
> **[Marvel teaming with John Ridley for mysterious superhero project](https://ew.com/article/2015/04/17/marvel-john-ridley/)** > > Marvel teaming with John Ridley for mysterious superhero project Let the speculation begin: EW has learned that Oscar-winning writer-producer John Ridley (12 Years a Slave) is teaming up with Marvel to develop a mysterious new TV series. We hear the deal involves reinventing an existing Marvel superhero character or property for ABC—but all sides are staying quiet on exactly which title Ridley is adapting. * * * Anyone have any guesses? I’ve heard that this is a reimagining of an existing Marvel character…I can’t think it’s the Punisher because that would be better for one of their Netflix series. A TV-14 rated Punisher is almost a waste of time. Maybe Moon Knight? I can’t really think of who else it might be. ---
**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2015, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-teaming-with-john-ridley-for-mysterious-superhero-project/718068/2 "2015-04-19T21:22:17Z")
Cloak and Dagger could be good. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2015, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-teaming-with-john-ridley-for-mysterious-superhero-project/718068/3 "2015-04-19T21:29:09Z")
> [@RikWriter](#): > > I’ve heard that this is a reimagining of an existing Marvel character…I can’t think it’s the Punisher because that would be better for one of their Netflix series. A TV-14 rated Punisher is almost a waste of time. > Maybe Moon Knight? > I can’t really think of who else it might be. How about Blade? He’s ripe for a reimagining, but the name recognition is there; the violence can be TV-14 by dint of having an otherwise over-the-top fight scene involve a vampire dying; and the effects budget wouldn’t be all that bad. ---
**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2015, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-teaming-with-john-ridley-for-mysterious-superhero-project/718068/4 "2015-04-19T21:31:27Z")
> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > How about Blade? He’s ripe for a reimagining, but the name recognition is there; the violence can be TV-14 by dint of having an otherwise over-the-top fight scene involve a vampire dying; and the effects budget wouldn’t be all that bad. That could be…but I hope it isn’t. I was never that big of a fan of Blade, for one thing, and for another I don’t see the vampire mythos fitting in well with the MCU. ---
**Author:** ![Declan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecae2f/32.png) [@Declan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Declan)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2015, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-teaming-with-john-ridley-for-mysterious-superhero-project/718068/5 "2015-04-20T01:58:28Z")
> [@RikWriter](#): > > [Marvel teaming with John Ridley for mysterious superhero project](http://www.ew.com/article/2015/04/17/marvel-john-ridley) > > Let the speculation begin: EW has learned that Oscar-winning writer-producer John Ridley (12 Years a Slave) is teaming up with Marvel to develop a mysterious new TV series. > > We hear the deal involves reinventing an existing Marvel superhero character or property for ABC—but all sides are staying quiet on exactly which title Ridley is adapting. > > * * * > > Anyone have any guesses? > I’ve heard that this is a reimagining of an existing Marvel character…I can’t think it’s the Punisher because that would be better for one of their Netflix series. A TV-14 rated Punisher is almost a waste of time. > Maybe Moon Knight? > I can’t really think of who else it might be. Could be spiderman, no idea if the rights for the tv are available Declan ---
**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2015, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-teaming-with-john-ridley-for-mysterious-superhero-project/718068/6 "2015-04-20T02:03:12Z")
> [@Declan](#): > > Could be spiderman, no idea if the rights for the tv are available > > Declan Given that Marvel is connecting their TV projects to their movie projects, I would tend to doubt that. Marvel’s deal with Sony would preclude them from doing it at any rate. ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2015, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-teaming-with-john-ridley-for-mysterious-superhero-project/718068/7 "2015-04-20T03:17:46Z")
Black Panther maybe? ---
**Author:** ![Push\_You\_Down](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/push_you_down/32/9095_2.png) [@Push\_You\_Down](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Push_You_Down)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2015, 6:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-teaming-with-john-ridley-for-mysterious-superhero-project/718068/8 "2015-04-20T06:49:06Z")
I don’t want to pigeon-hole the guy but… I think adapting “The Truth” limited series into a tv miniseries would be interesting. (it’s pretty flawed but the core story is good.) I think Cloak and Dagger would also be interesting. ---
**Author:** ![Sr\_Siete](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6de8d8/32.png) [@Sr\_Siete](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sr_Siete)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2015, 7:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-teaming-with-john-ridley-for-mysterious-superhero-project/718068/9 "2015-04-20T07:54:43Z")
> [@Oakminster](#): > > Black Panther maybe? There’s a movie set to be released in 2018. Assuming that it’s supposed to be a black superhero, I understand they are already preparing a Luke Cage tv show, so it’s not that either. Maybe Isaiah Bradley, AKA the First Captain America? ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2015, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-teaming-with-john-ridley-for-mysterious-superhero-project/718068/10 "2015-04-20T14:19:11Z")
I’d hope it’s not one of the supers they’re going to be making movies for in the near future, which includes Black Panther, Ant Man, Ms. Marvel and Guardians of the Galaxy. Any TV series they would develop for those would become second-class citizens very quickly (imagine if they tried to make an Iron Man tv series…). ---
**Author:** ![Lasciel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e79b87/32.png) [@Lasciel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lasciel)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2015, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-teaming-with-john-ridley-for-mysterious-superhero-project/718068/11 "2015-04-20T14:25:28Z")
> [@Sr\_Siete](#): > > There’s a movie set to be released in 2018. > > Assuming that it’s supposed to be a black superhero, I understand they are already preparing a Luke Cage tv show, so it’s not that either. _ **Maybe Isaiah Bradley, AKA the First Captain America?** _ (bolding and italics mine) This is my thought/hope. I think that especially coming off the heels of Agent Carter, it would fit in well to have ABC hosting a steady stream of various characters in their “alternate history” properties while Netflix and the movies handle the current stuff. Granted, there’s a lot of “history” to plumb, but given Ridley’s recent stuff, and that Panther and Falcon are off the table, Bradley makes a whole lotta sense. ---
**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2015, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-teaming-with-john-ridley-for-mysterious-superhero-project/718068/12 "2015-04-20T14:51:01Z")
> [@Lasciel](#): > > (bolding and italics mine) > > This is my thought/hope. I think that especially coming off the heels of Agent Carter, it would fit in well to have ABC hosting a steady stream of various characters in their “alternate history” properties while Netflix and the movies handle the current stuff. Granted, there’s a lot of “history” to plumb, but given Ridley’s recent stuff, and that Panther and Falcon are off the table, Bradley makes a whole lotta sense. That’s true, though there are a lot of other characters I’d rather see brought to life first. Even if we assume it’s a black superhero (which I guess makes sense given Ridley’s claim to fame but I would find disappointing in that they would be limiting a black showrrunner to a black superhero which seems kind of backhandedly discriminatory to me), there are others I’d rather see reimagined, not the least of which would be Misty Knight. ---
**Author:** ![G0sp3l](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c68b51/32.png) [@G0sp3l](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/G0sp3l)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2015, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-teaming-with-john-ridley-for-mysterious-superhero-project/718068/13 "2015-04-20T14:58:34Z")
> [@RikWriter](#): > > That’s true, though there are a lot of other characters I’d rather see brought to life first. Even if we assume it’s a black superhero (which I guess makes sense given Ridley’s claim to fame but I would find disappointing in that they would be limiting a black showrrunner to a black superhero which seems kind of backhandedly discriminatory to me), there are others I’d rather see reimagined, not the least of which would be Misty Knight. Misty Knight would be perfect for tv. Ultimately, she’s a cop/bounty hunter. Plus she already has a lot of MCU connections (Colleen Wing, Iron Fist, Daredevil, Luke Cage…) that can be used to tie into the greater universe. ---
**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2015, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-teaming-with-john-ridley-for-mysterious-superhero-project/718068/14 "2015-04-20T15:00:19Z")
> [@G0sp3l](#): > > Misty Knight would be perfect for tv. Ultimately, she’s a cop/bounty hunter. Plus she already has a lot of MCU connections (Colleen Wing, Iron Fist, Daredevil, Luke Cage…) that can be used to tie into the greater universe. And the SFX cost would be minimal, given that her only “superpower” is a bionic arm, if they even give her that. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2015, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-teaming-with-john-ridley-for-mysterious-superhero-project/718068/15 "2015-04-20T15:20:58Z")
I’m going to go with She Hulk. ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2015, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-teaming-with-john-ridley-for-mysterious-superhero-project/718068/16 "2015-04-20T15:41:36Z")
Howard the Duck. Or Lockjaw. ---
**Author:** ![G0sp3l](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c68b51/32.png) [@G0sp3l](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/G0sp3l)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2015, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-teaming-with-john-ridley-for-mysterious-superhero-project/718068/17 "2015-04-20T16:20:36Z")
> [@RikWriter](#): > > And the SFX cost would be minimal, given that her only “superpower” is a bionic arm, if they even give her that. I want her just for the afro-puffs 😃 Good call on the fx as well. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2015, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-teaming-with-john-ridley-for-mysterious-superhero-project/718068/18 "2015-04-20T16:28:18Z")
> [@RikWriter](#): > > [QUOTE=G0sp3l] > Misty Knight would be perfect for tv. Ultimately, she’s a cop/bounty hunter. Plus she already has a lot of MCU connections (Colleen Wing, Iron Fist, Daredevil, Luke Cage…) that can be used to tie into the greater universe. And the SFX cost would be minimal, given that her only “superpower” is a bionic arm [/QUOTE] Which she got from Stark, so that’s _another_ easy connection. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2015, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-teaming-with-john-ridley-for-mysterious-superhero-project/718068/19 "2015-04-20T16:32:40Z")
The new Ms. Marvel would be cool. ---
**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2015, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-teaming-with-john-ridley-for-mysterious-superhero-project/718068/20 "2015-04-20T16:53:09Z")
> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > Which she got from Stark, so that’s _another_ easy connection. Yeah, maybe they could even talk RDJ into a guest appearance. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-teaming-with-john-ridley-for-mysterious-superhero-project/718068.md?page=2)