# Marvel teaming with John Ridley for mysterious superhero project

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [April 19, 2015, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-teaming-with-john-ridley-for-mysterious-superhero-project/718068 "2015-04-19T21:11:07Z")\
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**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2015, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-teaming-with-john-ridley-for-mysterious-superhero-project/718068/21 "2015-04-20T16:54:14Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> The new Ms. Marvel would be cool.

But they’re going to have a Captain Marvel movie with Carol Danvers as Captain Marvel, so I don’t see that happening.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2015, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-teaming-with-john-ridley-for-mysterious-superhero-project/718068/22 "2015-04-20T17:15:15Z")

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> [@RikWriter](#):
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> But they’re going to have a Captain Marvel movie with Carol Danvers as Captain Marvel, so I don’t see that happening.

Totally different character that does not conflict.

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**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2015, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-teaming-with-john-ridley-for-mysterious-superhero-project/718068/23 "2015-04-20T17:45:23Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Totally different character that does not conflict.

You really think they’d introduce a “Ms. Marvel” a year before the “Captain Marvel” movie?

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2015, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-teaming-with-john-ridley-for-mysterious-superhero-project/718068/24 "2015-04-20T18:03:49Z")

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> [@RikWriter](#):
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> You really think they’d introduce a “Ms. Marvel” a year before the “Captain Marvel” movie?

If 16 year old Pakistani-American Kamala Khan talked about how Captain Marvel inspired her and other females to achieve great things(as she does in the comics) before the movie comes out, then I could see it helping.

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2015, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-teaming-with-john-ridley-for-mysterious-superhero-project/718068/25 "2015-04-20T18:38:57Z")

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It probably won’t be, but I’d like to see it be the Runaways.

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**Author:** ![Push\_You\_Down](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/push_you_down/32/9095_2.png) [@Push\_You\_Down](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Push_You_Down)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2015, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-teaming-with-john-ridley-for-mysterious-superhero-project/718068/26 "2015-04-20T21:07:24Z")

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> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#):
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> It probably won’t be, but I’d like to see it be the Runaways.

Runaways has been in development for forever… I wouldn’t rule it out. They could have brought him on board in order to get it going for real.

If they wanted to go historical again like Agent Carter… Blue Marvel could work. Much like Truth it had a great premise that ended up not working in the details. Blue Marvel was the first superhero to pop up in the 60s in the Marvel Universe (remember the sliding time scale) and he wear a full body costume. When during a battle he’s revealed to be black, it causes an uproar. Kennedy convinces him that for the good of the civil rights cause, he needs to go into hiding. He ends up being a footnote in super hero history until his old nemesis reappears.

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**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2015, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-teaming-with-john-ridley-for-mysterious-superhero-project/718068/27 "2015-04-20T22:42:30Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> If 16 year old Pakistani-American Kamala Khan talked about how Captain Marvel inspired her and other females to achieve great things(as she does in the comics) before the movie comes out, then I could see it helping.

I guess…I don’t have any special knowledge, but that seems just a bit too similar for them to do it, though.

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**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2015, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-teaming-with-john-ridley-for-mysterious-superhero-project/718068/28 "2015-04-20T23:30:25Z")

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Except the only similarity between Captain Marvel and Ms Marvel is Kamala using Carol’s old name. Different powerset, different origin (don’t know if the MCU plans to do anything with the Inhumans, but something similar to her comic origin could be done), completely different appearance and personality.

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**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2015, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-teaming-with-john-ridley-for-mysterious-superhero-project/718068/29 "2015-04-20T23:39:06Z")

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Maybe Shaft gets bit by a radioactive spider?

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2015, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-teaming-with-john-ridley-for-mysterious-superhero-project/718068/30 "2015-04-20T23:40:47Z")

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Shut your mouth.

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**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2015, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-teaming-with-john-ridley-for-mysterious-superhero-project/718068/31 "2015-04-20T23:44:28Z")

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> [@billfish678](#):
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> Maybe Shaft gets bit by a radioactive spider?

Gets bit WHERE by a radioactive spider???

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2015, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-teaming-with-john-ridley-for-mysterious-superhero-project/718068/32 "2015-04-20T23:46:26Z")

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> [@RikWriter](#):
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> Gets bit WHERE by a radioactive spider???

Canonically, he’d risk his neck.

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**Post date:** [April 20, 2015, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-teaming-with-john-ridley-for-mysterious-superhero-project/718068/33 "2015-04-20T23:56:10Z")

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> [@Kamino\_Neko](#):
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> (don’t know if the MCU plans to do anything with the Inhumans, but something similar to her comic origin could be done)

[They’ve got some ideas in that direction.](http://media.comicbook.com/uploads1/2014/10/inhumans-official-110857.jpg)

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**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2015, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-teaming-with-john-ridley-for-mysterious-superhero-project/718068/34 "2015-04-21T01:30:50Z")

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Sweet. That date would mean no Kamala for a good while (or else a change in her origin), though…

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2015, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-teaming-with-john-ridley-for-mysterious-superhero-project/718068/35 "2015-04-21T01:32:54Z")

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> [@Kamino\_Neko](#):
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> Sweet. That date would mean no Kamala for a good while (or else a change in her origin), though…

Wouldn’t be a problem. She didn’t know she was an Inhuman right off the bat, anyway.

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**Author:** ![Push\_You\_Down](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/push_you_down/32/9095_2.png) [@Push\_You\_Down](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Push_You_Down)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2015, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-teaming-with-john-ridley-for-mysterious-superhero-project/718068/36 "2015-04-21T21:06:42Z")

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> [@Kamino\_Neko](#):
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> Sweet. That date would mean no Kamala for a good while (or else a change in her origin), though…

…the Inhumans\* have already been introduced and are the major focus of Agents of Shield already.

\*not the royal family, but still the concept is already in play.

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**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2015, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-teaming-with-john-ridley-for-mysterious-superhero-project/718068/37 "2015-04-21T21:29:18Z")

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[Rumors are that it is going to be Ms. Marvel (Kamala).](http://www.forbes.com/sites/merrillbarr/2015/04/20/agent-carter/)

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> “originally, ABC pitched [Ridley] Cloak and Dagger, since they’ve tried to develop it in the past, but Ridley took more interest in a certain Kamala Khan and decided to incorporate her into the MCU.” For the uninitiated, Kamala Khan has served as Marvel Comics’ Ms. Marvel since February 2014 while Carol Danvers (the original Ms. Marvel) – a character confirmed to be receiving hew own feature film as part of the MCU’s “Phase Three”

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