# Marvel's Agents of SHIELD **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [December 2, 2017, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvels-agents-of-shield/803409 "2017-12-02T23:32:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 13
**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2018, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvels-agents-of-shield/803409/241 "2018-04-29T17:50:21Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > SuperTalbot! Is Talbot the Destroyer of Words? He seems the type who would shatter the Earth in order to prevent it being invaded… Brian ---
**Author:** ![DCTrekkie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dctrekkie/32/18862_2.png) [@DCTrekkie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCTrekkie)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2018, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvels-agents-of-shield/803409/242 "2018-04-29T18:41:07Z")
> [@AK84](#): > > Its not getting a season 6 apparently. Where are you getting that from? Last I heard (and all I can find on google) is that nothing’s been confirmed yet, but that there are rumor’s that it probably will be renewed. The showrunners have set up the last episode this season to function as a series finale if neccessary, but are ready to continue if they can. ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2018, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvels-agents-of-shield/803409/243 "2018-04-29T19:30:12Z")
> [@bienville](#): > > HA! HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!! > > They gave us: > MOST UNDERSTATED ACKNOWLEDGMENT EVER! Infinity War spoiler: It would be utterly awesome if the final episode ended with half the team disintegrating, with absolutely no explanation. ---
**Author:** ![Declan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecae2f/32.png) [@Declan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Declan)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2018, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvels-agents-of-shield/803409/244 "2018-04-29T21:37:54Z")
> [@bienville](#): > > It seems like the show is going to completely ignore _Infinity War_… which doesn’t seem ignorable. > I really thought this last episode would have something anticipating bigger events to come but it seemed to remain pretty self contained. > > Films released coinciding with the season wrap-up of _Agents of SHIELD_: > [ul] > [li]_ **Winter Soldier** _ - This was the only _major_ tie-in and it was handled beautifully with Hyrda’s reveal and attempted takeover of SHIELD very well set up during the T.V. show _without_ revealing spoilers for the movie. Then, the following episode (and rest of the season) after the movie was released they dealt with the fallout from the events of the movie within the scope of the plotline for the season.[/li]\* > [li]_ **Age of Ultron** _ - Episode before the movie: “Coulson! You MUST tell us other SHIELD leaders about this secret project that only you know about!”[/li]“No! I won’t! Because I am Phil Coulson and Nick Fury gave me a little cube and told me that I’m special!” > Episode after the movie: “See? My secret was that I was hiding a leftover old version helicarrier and I had to get it to Nick Fury so he could help battle Ultron way up in the sky!” > “We’re sorry we ever doubted you, Coulson. Even though I am Edward James Olmos I will now completely trust you no matter what secrets you may keep from me.” > \* > [li]_ **Civil War** _ - “O.K., everybody, we’re abiding by the Segovia Accords now! Everybody good with that? O.K. now let’s pick up where we left off last week.”[/li]\* > [li]_ **Guardians of the Galaxy 2** _ - Took place far away in space. Also, release of the movie did not correspond with the timing of the events in the movie (released almost 3 years after the first GotG movie but takes place only a few months after the first movie). So, it was natural not to reference it at all in the show.[/li][/ul] > > For _Infinity War_ I thought the acknowledgment would lean closer to what they did with _Winter Soldier_. And when they started building towards shadowy villains from space, that’s when I _really_ thought they were preparing for _Infinity War_. This last episode, though, just did not feel to me like it was getting ready to acknowledge bigger events beyond the plot and characters of the T.V. show. Just got back from IW, but on fridays ep they mention aliens in new york ---
**Author:** ![Declan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecae2f/32.png) [@Declan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Declan)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2018, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvels-agents-of-shield/803409/245 "2018-04-29T21:45:44Z")
> [@AK84](#): > > Its not getting a season 6 apparently. Cancel bear still has it at safe-ish, where are you getting that from. ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2018, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvels-agents-of-shield/803409/246 "2018-04-30T03:34:06Z")
Gravitalbot will be interesting. He’s clearly a bit unhinged. I’m glad the character is still going to be around, but I can’t see him surviving this whole thing. Was that Daisy’s mom’s grave she was digging up? Why would Quake need a shovel? So, everyone’s cool with Fitz now? ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2018, 12:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvels-agents-of-shield/803409/247 "2018-04-30T12:05:44Z")
“I’m crushing your head!” ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2018, 12:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvels-agents-of-shield/803409/248 "2018-04-30T12:25:35Z")
> [@Telemark](#): > > Gravitalbot will be interesting. He’s clearly a bit unhinged. I’m glad the character is still going to be around, but I can’t see him surviving this whole thing. > > Was that Daisy’s mom’s grave she was digging up? Why would Quake need a shovel? Yes. As soon as Tony said the Nazis had a healing source that he couldn’t find on a map, I assumed they meant Quake’s mom. Don’t know why she needed a shovel, except that maybe she’s reluctant to use her powers on the Earth, no matter how small, given the whole DoW thing. ---
**Author:** ![Paranoid\_Randroid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/paranoid_randroid/32/18_2.png) [@Paranoid\_Randroid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paranoid_Randroid)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2018, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvels-agents-of-shield/803409/249 "2018-05-05T22:46:50Z")
> [@N9IWP](#): > > Is Talbot the Destroyer of Words? He seems the type who would shatter the Earth in order to prevent it being invaded… That begins to look somewhat prescient. If soon-to-be-souped-up mega ultra Gravitalbot isn’t the one who causes the world to shatter, I’ll eat my socks. Maybe I’m just not insightful enough, but I really didn’t see Talbot the Goatee-Sporting Supervillain coming. It’s sort of difficult to discern what’s due to the brain damage, what’s the six months of torture, what’s the insanity-causing gravitonium voices, and what’s his just kind of being an idiot all along. And they managed to shoehorn in Infinity War in a way that kind of makes sense? I haven’t seen Infinity War, so I’ll just assume it ends with Gravitalbot booting Thanos right off the planet and ushering in a millennium of peace. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2018, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvels-agents-of-shield/803409/250 "2018-05-06T00:30:17Z")
Gravitalbot: “Now that I have all this power, I shall crush Thanos, then rule the galaxy!” Strolls out of building toward mayhem in the distance. High pitched scream, followed by the sound of a human being ripped in half, then…silence. Problem solved. ---
**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2018, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvels-agents-of-shield/803409/251 "2018-05-06T03:34:05Z")
If this show were truly in sync with _Infinity War_, the season finale would show: half of S.H.I.E.L.D. getting dusted by Thanos. Coulson, gone. May remains. Yoyo remains. Mack, gone. Which half of FitzSimmons would disappear, Fitz or Simmons? ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2018, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvels-agents-of-shield/803409/252 "2018-05-06T23:30:44Z")
> [@Terminus\_Est](#): > > If this show were truly in sync with _Infinity War_, the season finale would show: > > half of S.H.I.E.L.D. getting dusted by Thanos. Coulson, gone. May remains. Yoyo remains. Mack, gone. Which half of FitzSimmons would disappear, Fitz or Simmons? Hey, I predicted that a week ago! ---
**Author:** ![galen\_ubal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/galen_ubal/32/4440_2.png) [@galen\_ubal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/galen_ubal)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2018, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvels-agents-of-shield/803409/253 "2018-05-06T23:40:39Z")
If Fitz gets dusted, I would _not_ want to be Thanos. Simmons might be nice and sweet most of the time, but can you imagine the wrath she’d unleash if Fitz got taken from her? ---
**Author:** ![bienville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@bienville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bienville)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2018, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvels-agents-of-shield/803409/254 "2018-05-07T00:43:06Z")
If half of Fitzsimmons dies, it will have to be the Fitz half. With a dead Fitz, they can reveal that Simmons is already pregnant. ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2018, 10:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvels-agents-of-shield/803409/255 "2018-05-07T10:53:03Z")
So does this reformulated Talbot have a new name, or is he just Talbot still? ---
**Author:** ![MrAtoz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@MrAtoz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrAtoz)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2018, 12:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvels-agents-of-shield/803409/256 "2018-05-07T12:11:19Z")
> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#): > > So does this reformulated Talbot have a new name, or is he just Talbot still? He has the look, costume, and powers of the Marvel supervillain [Graviton](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graviton_(comics)), although the backstory is completely different. ---
**Author:** ![Paranoid\_Randroid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/paranoid_randroid/32/18_2.png) [@Paranoid\_Randroid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paranoid_Randroid)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2018, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvels-agents-of-shield/803409/257 "2018-05-07T14:02:19Z")
Yeah, I’m not a comic guy, but isn’t Talbot originally a relatively benign Hulk antagonist or something? I’ve still not seen Infinity War but I’ve been spoiled. It feels like if half the planet had been dusted it would have been something the folks in the future would have known about. Presumably the TV writers didn’t have insight into the Infinity War script, so I suppose it’s understandable that the integration couldn’t have been more baked in. My guess is they’ll not go for the dusting – if it’s true that they’re letting the finale double as a series ender if necessary that’d be quite the downer. Maybe they’ll just assume whatever time or dimension hopping hijinx the Avengers get up to succeeds and it never happened? ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2018, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvels-agents-of-shield/803409/258 "2018-05-07T14:22:39Z")
As I’ve mentioned before, my guess is that the team will end the season in the past, the future (again) or in an alternate dimension, thus sidestepping the issue. ---
**Author:** ![MrAtoz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@MrAtoz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrAtoz)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2018, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvels-agents-of-shield/803409/259 "2018-05-07T14:25:41Z")
> [@Paranoid\_Randroid](#): > > Yeah, I’m not a comic guy, but isn’t Talbot originally a relatively benign Hulk antagonist or something? Yes, comic book Glenn Talbot started out as one of the Army guys pursuing the Hulk (he was a major then), and also as a romantic rival for Bruce Banner’s love interest, Betty Ross. A bit of a pompous ass, but fundamentally a good guy. Comic book Graviton was a completely different character, and his origins were completely different than what they’ve done on the show. But Graviton rocked a black goatee, just like Talbot’s been doing lately, and the first costume he wore is almost identical to what Talbot’s wearing now. And of course his powers are pretty much identical. When I saw Talbot’s new look in the previews, “Graviton” is the first thing I said. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2018, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvels-agents-of-shield/803409/260 "2018-05-07T14:47:43Z")
> [@Paranoid\_Randroid](#): > > Yeah, I’m not a comic guy, but isn’t Talbot originally a relatively benign Hulk antagonist or something? > > I’ve still not seen Infinity War but I’ve been spoiled. (removed spoiler box ) If the two events (world cracking and Thanos) are happening at the same time per the latest episode of Shield - the average person would likely consider the two events ‘the same’. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvels-agents-of-shield/803409.md?page=12) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvels-agents-of-shield/803409.md?page=14)