# Marvel's Agents of SHIELD **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [December 2, 2017, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvels-agents-of-shield/803409 "2017-12-02T23:32:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2018, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvels-agents-of-shield/803409/161 "2018-03-26T17:22:47Z")
> [@Telemark](#): > > That was my impression as well. BTW, aren’t their wedding rings now artifacts of the time loop, never having been created? No, Zeke bought them from a pawn shop in present time. He didn’t bring them back from the future - he just remarked that he bought Jemma’s ring because it looked like his grandmother’s ring. And it was tough to find a ring sized for Fitz’s little boy hands. ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2018, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvels-agents-of-shield/803409/162 "2018-03-26T18:31:25Z")
> [@muldoonthief](#): > > No, Zeke bought them from a pawn shop in present time. He didn’t bring them back from the future - he just remarked that he bought Jemma’s ring because it looked like his grandmother’s ring. And it was tough to find a ring sized for Fitz’s little boy hands. Ah, that makes me feel better. I generally dislike time travel story lines and I’m glad they didn’t introduce a paradox here. ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2018, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvels-agents-of-shield/803409/163 "2018-03-26T18:48:08Z")
> [@Telemark](#): > > Ah, that makes me feel better. I generally dislike time travel story lines and I’m glad they didn’t introduce a paradox here. Yeah, that was part of his mission when he was the only one who could leave the base, since he wasn’t being searched for by Hale & co. Contact the rest of SHIELD, and buy a dress, rings, and booze for the wedding. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2018, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvels-agents-of-shield/803409/164 "2018-03-26T18:49:00Z")
> [@muldoonthief](#): > > Yeah, that was part of his mission when he was the only one who could leave the base, since he wasn’t being searched for by Hale & co. Contact the rest of SHIELD, and buy a dress, rings, and booze for the wedding. Damn good thing he managed to make it back in time … ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2018, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvels-agents-of-shield/803409/165 "2018-03-26T18:58:52Z")
> [@simster](#): > > Damn good thing he managed to make it back in time … Well, he brought back Zima instead of the requested Haig, so it was a B- effort at best. ---
**Author:** ![That\_Don\_Guy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/that_don_guy/32/538_2.png) [@That\_Don\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/That_Don_Guy)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2018, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvels-agents-of-shield/803409/166 "2018-03-26T19:10:41Z")
> [@AlsoNamedBort](#): > > It’s a TV rule, if a woman in her 20s/30s throws up, it means she’s pregnant. You must have missed one of the _Chicago Fire_ episodes from the previous night, then. (Yes, there were two new ones - “coincidentally,” they were on at the same time as the two-hour premiere of _Seattle Fire_ - er, _Station 19_ on ABC.) ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2018, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvels-agents-of-shield/803409/167 "2018-03-26T19:41:03Z")
> [@muldoonthief](#): > > Well, he brought back Zima instead of the requested Haig, so it was a B- effort at best. well, nobodys perfect. I also was alluding to him making it back in time — _ **from the future** _ - cause if he hadn’t, none of this would have happened before/again/soon ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2018, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvels-agents-of-shield/803409/168 "2018-03-26T19:44:50Z")
> [@That\_Don\_Guy](#): > > You must have missed one of the _Chicago Fire_ episodes from the previous night, then. (Yes, there were two new ones - “coincidentally,” they were on at the same time as the two-hour premiere of _Seattle Fire_ - er, _Station 19_ on ABC.) As someone who’s never watched that show, what happened? ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2018, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvels-agents-of-shield/803409/169 "2018-03-26T20:13:04Z")
> [@simster](#): > > well, nobodys perfect. > > I also was alluding to him making it back in time — _ **from the future** _ - cause if he hadn’t, none of this would have happened before/again/soon Ah, got it. Thank you, Mr. Lewis. ---
**Author:** ![galen\_ubal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/galen_ubal/32/4440_2.png) [@galen\_ubal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/galen_ubal)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2018, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvels-agents-of-shield/803409/170 "2018-03-26T21:59:46Z")
Was anyone else getting a strong Kree impression off the unseeable guy of the Confederacy, or was it just me? ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2018, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvels-agents-of-shield/803409/171 "2018-03-26T22:01:21Z")
> [@galen\_ubal](#): > > Was anyone else getting a strong Kree impression off the unseeable guy of the Confederacy, or was it just me? That vial he handed Hale was that same rage potion that Kasius used. ---
**Author:** ![Reluctant\_A](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/839c29/32.png) [@Reluctant\_A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reluctant_A)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2018, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvels-agents-of-shield/803409/172 "2018-03-26T22:39:17Z")
This show is _so good_! ---
**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2018, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvels-agents-of-shield/803409/173 "2018-03-26T23:14:37Z")
> [@galen\_ubal](#): > > Was anyone else getting a strong Kree impression off the unseeable guy of the Confederacy, or was it just me? He seemed black to me. And there are no black Kree, just blue and pink(white). ---
**Author:** ![galen\_ubal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/galen_ubal/32/4440_2.png) [@galen\_ubal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/galen_ubal)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2018, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvels-agents-of-shield/803409/174 "2018-03-26T23:22:19Z")
> [@TBG](#): > > He seemed black to me. And there are no black Kree, just blue and pink(white). True, but he could’ve been a dark blue… And, as **enalzi** reminded me, the Odium Hale was handed is the same stuff that Kasius had. Also, weren’t Hydra mixed up with the Kree back a couple of seasons ago? ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2018, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvels-agents-of-shield/803409/175 "2018-03-27T00:27:35Z")
I was kinda hoping for a brutality competition between Fitz and Simmons. He rigs up a line that decapitates three Kree soldiers, she’s briefly shocked and then impressed, later she devises a plan where the black kid used a rock shower to blow three other Kree soldiers into space; Fitz is briefly shocked and then impressed… It could become a running gag - each of them trying to outdo the other for most gruesome and elaborate kills. ---
**Author:** ![holmes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e95f7d/32.png) [@holmes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/holmes)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2018, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvels-agents-of-shield/803409/176 "2018-03-27T00:30:45Z")
> [@TBG](#): > > He seemed black to me. And there are no black Kree, just blue and pink(white). Didn’t the first Kree they introduced have some sort of disguise device, that made him look white? Perhaps this guy is using similar tech? ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2018, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvels-agents-of-shield/803409/177 "2018-03-27T16:28:35Z")
> [@muldoonthief](#): > > No, Zeke bought them from a pawn shop in present time. He didn’t bring them back from the future - he just remarked that he bought Jemma’s ring because it looked like his grandmother’s ring. And it was tough to find a ring sized for Fitz’s little boy hands. I was vaguely expecting the motto “it doesn’t matter if your steps are small as long as they’re in the right direction” to do the paradox thing, i.e. Zeke mentions it to Simmons, who’d never heard it before but likes how it sounds and adopts it as a personal motto she will presumably frequently use for years to come. Instead, it felt forced and artificial; Zeke mentions the motto and completely independently Simmons uses the same phrase later in the episode and for the first time ever, as far as the audience knows. If Simmons had used the motto or something similar back in the first season and this was more of a callback, that would work better. Now it just feels contrived. ---
**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2018, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvels-agents-of-shield/803409/178 "2018-03-28T00:03:36Z")
Just caught up myself. I will say it once and say it 1000 more times…this show just continues to find ways to be good! You thiiiiiink it’s about to get stupid but then it comes back and becomes awesome. Not much to say that hasn’t already been said, but did anyone else think it was Enoch that was talking with the military chick at the end? It sure sounded like him. That would also be a helluva twist. ---
**Author:** ![Reluctant\_A](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/839c29/32.png) [@Reluctant\_A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reluctant_A)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2018, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvels-agents-of-shield/803409/179 "2018-03-28T16:01:53Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > If Simmons had used the motto or something similar back in the first season and this was more of a callback, that would work better. Now it just feels contrived. I don’t really get this: if it’s a saying that Jemma’s daughter heard her say her whole life, what difference does it make if it’s not a saying that Jemma has used for _Jemma’s_ whole life? ---
**Author:** ![Push\_You\_Down](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/push_you_down/32/9095_2.png) [@Push\_You\_Down](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Push_You_Down)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2018, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvels-agents-of-shield/803409/180 "2018-03-28T19:11:15Z")
> [@TBG](#): > > He seemed black to me. And there are no black Kree, just blue and pink(white). …Please try to tell that to Djimon Hounsou. [![](http://oyster.ignimgs.com/wordpress/stg.ign.com/2014/11/guardians_djimon_1280.jpg) ](http://oyster.ignimgs.com/wordpress/stg.ign.com/2014/11/guardians_djimon_1280.jpg) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvels-agents-of-shield/803409.md?page=8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvels-agents-of-shield/803409.md?page=10)