# Marvel's Avengers - early reviews seem positive \[edited title\]

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**Created:** [April 20, 2012, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvels-avengers-early-reviews-seem-positive-edited-title/619406 "2012-04-20T13:18:21Z")\
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So, moving away from the nuke: the speed of the Hulks movements was fantastic. Beyond just the raw strength, the quickness was frightening. It shows that he is not just a dumb brute wall of muscle, but a terrifyingly quick and agile force to be reckoned with.

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The scene where Hulk sucker-punched Thor was better in 48 Hours.

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> [@Darth\_Sensitive](#):
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> I very much liked Hawkeye’s quiver. The thumb controls on the bow changing the load on the arrows was a very nice touch. Seemed like how I would do it if I had a titanic special ops budget to spend on outfitting the world’s best archer to be extra lethal.
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> Changing loadouts on the was very cool.

As was the USB arrow.

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> [@Dumbguy](#):
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> The scene where Hulk sucker-punched Thor was better in 48 Hours.

I’m assuming that was a ‘bro-punch’ to the shoulder - not any sort of hostility, just an excess of high spirits.  
Various thoughts:  
Re: Iron Man and the nuke. I would say that he just happened to run out of power shortly after releasing the missile in the otherverse; and that it was the explosion that pushed him out - or possibly just pushing away from the missile in the right direction. He’d been deliberately draining his power to get the missile where he wanted it, and that’s when and where he ran out.  
Overall, an excellent movie; I’ve seen it three times, and each time I picked up something new.  
\*On the second go-round, when Banner first Hulks out - he lands on the floor, right where it’s stenciled “Warning: Contents Under Pressure”. I doubt that’s a coincidence. 😃  
\*Third time, towards the end where Tony and Pepper are looking at the wire frame of the tower. There’s a quick flash of an area with Cap’s shield beside it; then they pull back and you can see a Quinjet in the tower - preview of the Avenger’s HQ, I’d guess.  
Loved Loki - he’d make a great psychologist, if he weren’t batshit crazy.

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**Post date:** [May 8, 2012, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvels-avengers-early-reviews-seem-positive-edited-title/619406/225 "2012-05-08T00:42:12Z")

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> [@galen\_ubal](#):
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> I’m assuming that was a ‘bro-punch’ to the shoulder - not any sort of hostility, just an excess of high spirits.  
> Various thoughts:  
> Re: Iron Man and the nuke. I would say that he just happened to run out of power shortly after releasing the missile in the otherverse; and that it was the explosion that pushed him out - or possibly just pushing away from the missile in the right direction. He’d been deliberately draining his power to get the missile where he wanted it, and that’s when and where he ran out.  
> Overall, an excellent movie; I’ve seen it three times, and each time I picked up something new.  
> \*On the second go-round, when Banner first Hulks out - he lands on the floor, right where it’s stenciled “Warning: Contents Under Pressure”. I doubt that’s a coincidence. 😃  
> \*Third time, towards the end where Tony and Pepper are looking at the wire frame of the tower. There’s a quick flash of an area with Cap’s shield beside it; then they pull back and you can see a Quinjet in the tower - preview of the Avenger’s HQ, I’d guess.  
> Loved Loki - he’d make a great psychologist, if he weren’t batshit crazy.

There’s a floor for each Avenger with a little symbol. Hulk’s is the radioactive one.

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> Perhaps, but we should at least tell them to bugger off _before_ we open up with the spoilers…

Here ya go: [OK, I've seen The Avengers - open spoilers! - Cafe Society - Straight Dope Message Board](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=651035)

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**Post date:** [May 8, 2012, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvels-avengers-early-reviews-seem-positive-edited-title/619406/227 "2012-05-08T03:34:24Z")

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Question:  
When the Hulk/Banner hit the ground, who was the actor that played the janitor/caretaker that gave him the clothes?  
he looks very familiar, but IMDB had no credit for anyone in that role.

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> [@Rick](#):
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> Question:  
> When the Hulk/Banner hit the ground, who was the actor that played the janitor/caretaker that gave him the clothes?  
> he looks very familiar, but IMDB had no credit for anyone in that role.

Harry Dean Stanton. [Harry Dean Stanton - IMDb](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001765/)

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> [@Rick](#):
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> Question:  
> When the Hulk/Banner hit the ground, who was the actor that played the janitor/caretaker that gave him the clothes?  
> he looks very familiar, but IMDB had no credit for anyone in that role.

[Harry Dean Stanton](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001765/)

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I thought it was him, but I wasn’t sure. Thanks.

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> [@Bakhesh](#):
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> Did anyone pick up on the slightly odd line of Loki dialogue half way through the film…?
> 
> ..when Loki calls Black Widow a ‘mewling quim’? Seemed a bit out of place, seeing as quim is British slang for vagina. Caused a bit of sniggering in the cinema when he came out with this one.

Well, here in Sweden it was subtitled as “fitta” which is the literal translation of cunt. As in the baddest of the bad words. There was an audible gasp from the audience. Surprised me and Swedish isn’t even my native language.

Oh and it may have been British slang once, but it is rarely (if ever) used these days.

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> [@amanset](#):
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> Well, here in Sweden it was subtitled as “fitta” which is the literal translation of cunt. As in the baddest of the bad words. There was an audible gasp from the audience. Surprised me and Swedish isn’t even my native language.
> 
> Oh and it may have been British slang once, but it is rarely (if ever) used these days.

It’s rarely used, but still common enough for everyone to know the word. (unless all my friends have an unusually extended swearing vocabulary)

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> [@simster](#):
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> Right - CA is perfect in his role as a Squad Commander/etc - he is the one person most capable of getting them fighting together as a unit and coordinating a battle plan. None of the others has ever had to work within the confines of a group or with others at all - its always been only them.

Somewhat reinforced by his interactions with NYPD during the battle.

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**Post date:** [May 8, 2012, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvels-avengers-early-reviews-seem-positive-edited-title/619406/234 "2012-05-08T13:32:22Z")

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> [@Bakhesh](#):
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> It’s rarely used, but still common enough for everyone to know the word. (unless all my friends have an unusually extended swearing vocabulary)

I disagree and I’m (also?) British. I don’t think I have ever heard it outside of this film.

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Re: quim

Several years ago I was signing up for some online service and the name Quimby was taken so I just wrote Quim and it gave me a message saying the name was indecent. I was like WTF (this was late 90s so pre Google era)? So I e-mailed their tech support and that guy had no idea what was up so he kicked it up and that guy had no idea so finally after a day or two they apparently found someone on their staff who recognized and he e-mails me, “It’s kind of an obscure British curse word. It was in our database of blocked words but no one ever heard of it so we’re just going to let you have it”. Later on I found out what it meant. All I was doing was abbreviating…I had no idea.

And that was the only reason I recognized that line in The Avengers.

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Yep, I’m british too.

I’ve heard it before in things like Viz and on the TV show Bottom. Both of these have quite a lot of creative swearing in them, so maybe I was right about me and my friends having good anglo saxon vocabularies

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I could be wrong, but I believe Eddie Murphy may have dropped a quim-bomb in one of his stand-up specials.

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I am well aware of the term, and I’m a 'Merkin. Of course, I also read a lot of Victorian porn.

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> [@Bakhesh](#):
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> Yep, I’m british too.
> 
> I’ve heard it before in things like Viz and on the TV show Bottom. Both of these have quite a lot of creative swearing in them, so maybe I was right about me and my friends having good anglo saxon vocabularies

So not exactly current then 😉

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No need for spoilers on this, I think, as it’s in a trailer…

> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> And Thor? [snip] it would’ve been great if, when he let his guard down, it was clear that he thinks of humans as children, worth protecting but not all that worthy of respect.

Did you miss the line: “You people are so petty, and tiny”

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